S-10 V8 swap

[chucked]

Over the next few weeks I will be doing a v8 swap in my s-10, it currently has a 4.3 v6 with 93k miles on it. Switching it for the same year 350, 4 bolt main.

Heres the truck

[chucked]

The engine

[TCracin440ex]

ive got any and everything you may need for that motor....ive got intake manifold...both upper and lower, flywheel, all that stuff...i took the stock 350 vortech out of my 98 z71 because it started knockin....and bought another 350 vortech to go in place of it...and the 1 i got had everything needed i didnt need to swap over nothin but a few parts...but ive got just about everything

[chucked]

I got everything to. I bought the motor complete, with the wireing harness and computer

[TCracin440ex]

nice...but if along the way you find out you need something...lmk...ill hook ya up

[TheFontMaster]

Well that motor shure cleaned up nice. I remember what it looked like when you posted the link for it from ebay.

[Pvt. Maggot]

I'm doing the same thing right now as well. except i'm using a 305 with lots of mods. :eek: ;) 5 speed. dropped with alot of other goodies and such. :devil:

[chucked]

im gonna pick up a small blast cabinet from harborfreight tomorrow to do the intake manifold and the front accessory brackets.

[TCracin440ex]

lemme tell you a lil secrete...the 4.3 ltr chevy v6 is a 350 s/b with 2 less cylinders...u could take that v6 and make it scream...they have the exact same pistons and everything

[Pvt. Maggot]

most people who know about motors and such know that. 4.3's have some balls hah..they can be made pretty quick..but you can't beat the good old v8 :devil:

[TCracin440ex]

i kinda beg to differ...a buddy of mine has an older model rx7 thats completely gutted....he has a chevy 4.3 ltr motor in that car and it will str8 up stomp my buddys camaro ls1 with slp package

he builds race engines for a living and they had a client call and order a bush motor for a car that will be running the bush series...and after the motor was built...the guy backed out of it...so my buddy ended up puttin it in the rx7 and this bioch will FLY

sounds like a damn v8 when its sittin there idoling

[chucked]

well you take those same mods you put to the 4.3, and put them in a 5.7, and you got A WHOLE LOT more power and torque.

[WKY400EX]

Originally posted by chucked
well you take those same mods you put to the 4.3, and put them in a 5.7, and you got A WHOLE LOT more power and torque. I agree with you chucked. Keep us posted on the motor swap.

I do think it would be cool to have a built 4.3 though. Just so you could race someone who has a bigger motor, beat them, then hurt their ego by telling them you only have a V6.:)

[chucked]

Originally posted by WKY400EX
I agree with you chucked. Keep us posted on the motor swap.

I do think it would be cool to have a built 4.3 though. Just so you could race someone who has a bigger motor, beat them, then hurt their ego by telling them you only have a V6.:)

yea, but it takes ALOT more money.

[red2004 TRX450R]

BEFORE YOU START GET THIS BOOK JTR-S10
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=S10+V8&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&searchinresults=false&N=0&target=egnsearch.asp

O ya dont use the computer get and intake and a carb, and a new distrubutor!!! will run better!!!!!

YOU WILL NEED IT !!!!!

this is my old engin I have a bigger one in there now!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/1qazse4/moter2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/1qazse4/moter1.jpg

[red2004 TRX450R]

You have to move the steering column, smash in the fire wall, make motor mounts, use camaro manifolds, smash in the frame, use a C4 corvette radiator, and a lot of other things
GET THAT BOOK!!!!!

you will be trying to find 1/8in clearences all over the place
Have fun !!!! its tight!!!!

I bet that is not a 4 bolt ! but if you keep it under 5G witch you will with the stock computer 2 bolt is OK.

[WKY400EX]

chucked, you probably already know, but Advanced Adapters makes a ton of stuff to help you out on this. They've got parts like motor mounts, oil pans, case adapters, headers etc.

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by WKY400EX
chucked, you probably already know, but Advanced Adapters makes a ton of stuff to help you out on this. They've got parts like motor mounts, oil pans, case adapters, headers etc.

YOU DONT NEED ANY OF THAT STUFF ITS WAY OVER PRICED !!!!
unless is a 4X4 or you want to use stock s-10 tranny - with I would never do eather!!!!!

YOU NEED THAT BOOK!!!!!!
C4 RAD, AND GEN3 CAMARO MANAFOLD. LOOK IN BOOK !!!

chucked - if you have any questions just ask I done like 5 swaps alredy....


"this is my 420th post" ha ha

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
You have to move the steering column, smash in the fire wall, make motor mounts, use camaro manifolds, smash in the frame, use a C4 corvette radiator, and a lot of other things
GET THAT BOOK!!!!!

you will be trying to find 1/8in clearences all over the place
Have fun !!!! its tight!!!!

I bet that is not a 4 bolt ! but if you keep it under 5G witch you will with the stock computer 2 bolt is OK.

The only reason Im really doing it is so I can be like "haha look what I can do" Im not really doing it to be super fast. I want it to look like it belongs in there, like it came stock.

Wanna put some money on the motor not being a 4 bolt?

[red2004 TRX450R]

I gess i was wrong!
what is that out of?

[Butters]

i wish i could do that. i have a 1972 chevy that i just don't like cause i think it hates me and i want to put its 350 in an s-10

[nacs400ex]

I have an 1989 s10 with a V8 Conversion, it's an awesome little truck. Most people dont expect it at all, but when your on the gas they sure know it. My main problem is getting the power to the ground, I have been thinking of countersinking a fuel-cell in the box over the axle. I have seen this done before in combination with traction bars and it seems like it's the way to go.

Unfortunately right now it only has the 305, however this coming winter I plan on using a 350 or 327.

Good luck with it, their a blast.

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
I gess i was wrong!
what is that out of?

1991 suburban

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
YOU DONT NEED ANY OF THAT STUFF ITS WAY OVER PRICED !!!!
unless is a 4X4 or you want to use stock s-10 tranny - with I would never do eather!!!!!

YOU NEED THAT BOOK!!!!!!
C4 RAD, AND GEN3 CAMARO MANAFOLD. LOOK IN BOOK !!!

chucked - if you have any questions just ask I done like 5 swaps alredy....


"this is my 420th post" ha ha

What are you using for a shifter? Im guessing your using a th350?

[LTZ400rider]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
lemme tell you a lil secrete...the 4.3 ltr chevy v6 is a 350 s/b with 2 less cylinders...u could take that v6 and make it scream...they have the exact same pistons and everything

damn i never took time to think about that, what r the same parts that a 5.7 and a 4.3 use?

[TCracin440ex]

piston and rods are the same other than that....everything else is too long....maybe the valves, rockers, and junk like that

[Guy400]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
You have to move the steering column, smash in the fire wall, make motor mounts, use camaro manifolds, smash in the frame, use a C4 corvette radiator, and a lot of other things
GET THAT BOOK!!!!!When I had my 355 in my S10 I didn't have to move the steering shaft and I used the stock steering gearbox. You also don't have to make motor mounts. The mounts from a mid-70's full-size truck work great but you do have to make two adapter plates to move the engine forward. There are a number of companies that make full headers so you aren't stuck using chitty factory manifolds. I went to a local radiator shop with the factory S10 radiator and told them I need this in a 4 row. Bam-$90. I'm not sure what you're talking about by smashing in the frame? I didn't have to touch the frame at all. Hooker makes a cheap set of header where a few of the tubes go around the frame (so you'll have to cut a hole in the front fender wells) and Sanderson makes in-frame headers as well. If you're beating or cutting your frame than you're doing something the hard way. The only thing I had to cut was a 6" section out of the transmission rear cross member. I had to cut a section and weld a new piece in slightly higher to clear the header collector on the driver's side. With the adapter plates I made from 3/8" plate steel, I was able to drop the 355 right in, use the factory transmission cross-member on a short tailshaft TH350 and the driveshaft out of a '71 Chevelle I had in the garage was an exact fit. In the whole swap the only real modifications I had to make was beating the firewall back to clear the transmission bellhousing and the HEI distributor and the cutting out the section of the crossmember for the driver's side exhaust.

[jerry-89-250R]

i have a 82 s-10, slightly built 327 , ebay has some parts at times for this conversion. shorty headers, motor mounts etc.

[chucked]

www.v8s10.org has the best prices on parts

[chucked]

Glass blasting is fun

Before

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After

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Engine, as it stands currently

[Butters]

why are you using a 2 barrel manifold??

[chucked]

Originally posted by Butters
why are you using a 2 barrel manifold??

Its tbi buddy,

[Toadz400]

V8 swaps are always awesome. My dad did one back in the 80's with a Datsun truck and a 327 V8. He used the tranny from the Datsun engine (2.8L V6) and he added an overdrive. It was a 4-spd manual and got 25 mpg. Now that's damn good for a 327 V8 carburated truck! My 2.2L 4 cyl 5-spd Sonoma gets 24mpg! with 1/3 of the HP and torque.

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by nacs400ex
I have an 1989 s10 with a V8 Conversion, it's an awesome little truck. Most people dont expect it at all, but when your on the gas they sure know it. My main problem is getting the power to the ground, I have been thinking of countersinking a fuel-cell in the box over the axle. I have seen this done before in combination with traction bars and it seems like it's the way to go.

Unfortunately right now it only has the 305, however this coming winter I plan on using a 350 or 327.

Good luck with it, their a blast.

ONE WORD ON THAT http://www.calvertracing.com/ CAL-TRAC

I made my own!!!

and BF goodrich drag radials

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by Guy400
When I had my 355 in my S10 I didn't have to move the steering shaft and I used the stock steering gearbox. You also don't have to make motor mounts. The mounts from a mid-70's full-size truck work great but you do have to make two adapter plates to move the engine forward. There are a number of companies that make full headers so you aren't stuck using chitty factory manifolds. I went to a local radiator shop with the factory S10 radiator and told them I need this in a 4 row. Bam-$90. I'm not sure what you're talking about by smashing in the frame? I didn't have to touch the frame at all. Hooker makes a cheap set of header where a few of the tubes go around the frame (so you'll have to cut a hole in the front fender wells) and Sanderson makes in-frame headers as well. If you're beating or cutting your frame than you're doing something the hard way. The only thing I had to cut was a 6" section out of the transmission rear cross member. I had to cut a section and weld a new piece in slightly higher to clear the header collector on the driver's side. With the adapter plates I made from 3/8" plate steel, I was able to drop the 355 right in, use the factory transmission cross-member on a short tailshaft TH350 and the driveshaft out of a '71 Chevelle I had in the garage was an exact fit. In the whole swap the only real modifications I had to make was beating the firewall back to clear the transmission bellhousing and the HEI distributor and the cutting out the section of the crossmember for the driver's side exhaust.

I mashed in the frame because I am running an 8qt oil pan.
I moved the steering shaft when I used the camaro manifolds. Now I have hooker headers and I moved it back.
I all so my engan sitting way far back for better weight transfer.
About the mounts ya you right just need adapter plates (IE motor mounts)
The hooker headers are not cheep and that are a huge pain in the ars!!!!!

Ill have to get new pix up!!!

I did have a 305 with a 700r4 but now I have a drag built 327 with a th350

[Butters]

Originally posted by chucked
Its tbi buddy,

oh....why don't you just put a 4-barrel on there instead of messing with all that. i heard tbi was crap, but i've never messed with it so i don't know.

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
ONE WORD ON THAT http://www.calvertracing.com/ CAL-TRAC

I made my own!!!

and BF goodrich drag radials

Ive already checked into caltracs and have my own little design, well its the same thing but going through www.graingers.com and www.macmasters.com about 75 bucks in parts

[chucked]

Originally posted by Butters
oh....why don't you just put a 4-barrel on there instead of messing with all that. i heard tbi was crap, but i've never messed with it so i don't know.

it doesnt smell like it?

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by chucked
it doesnt smell like it?

Emissions!!!

is that why you are doing it.
There are eazy ways to get around Emissions!!!
trust me i know

[markk]

Back in my senior year in high school, Our auto teacher bought a early 90's s-10, He took and tubbed it a little bit and stuck a ford 9" with some Micky street slicks. Then we built a 400 sb. bored .030 over with 12-1 compression. They will make a pretty fast truck, But u need to get that traction on the ground, U might want to do somthing with the rest of the drive train.

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
Emissions!!!

is that why you are doing it.
There are eazy ways to get around Emissions!!!
trust me i know

I know a few ways of getting around emmissions, Im doing it with tbi because I want it to look stock. If I want more power later on Ill get a carb

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by chucked
I know a few ways of getting around emmissions, Im doing it with tbi because I want it to look stock. If I want more power later on Ill get a carb

then you are going to have to paint that intake black!

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
then you are going to have to paint that intake black!

LAY OFF THE FREEKIN CRACK!!!!!

[red2004 TRX450R]

OK ED

:D

i was just saying the tpi will loose power over a carb, and it will make the install a lot harder dealing with a computer.

u said you want it to look. but now it dont.

GOOD DAY

[chucked]

Originally posted by red2004 TRX450R
OK ED

:D

i was just saying the tpi will loose power over a carb, and it will make the install a lot harder dealing with a computer.

u said you want it to look. but now it dont.

GOOD DAY

peece!