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sgerbyshak
05-15-2005, 03:14 PM
I heard a rumer that Honda wll have a 250r for 2006. Someone said that it will sell for around $6000. The way I heard it was that because of new regulations comming out 2006 will be the last year for 2 stroke atvs. Honda has a bunch of motors that they want to use up. Is there any truth to this or is it all BS. Is there anyone out there that has heard of this or am I the only one...

sgerbyshak
05-15-2005, 03:17 PM
Maybe Honda wants yamaha and suzuki to be the only ones to come out with something new every year. They need to listen to the consumer more and not worry about the environmental idiots..

sgerbyshak
05-15-2005, 03:35 PM
Also has anyone heard if the 2006 450r will have any worthwile updates? Or will Honda stun us with dare I say it...a new color.

WhiteZee
05-15-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by sgerbyshak
Also has anyone heard if the 2006 450r will have any worthwile updates? Or will Honda stun us with dare I say it...a new color.
LOL.

MXracer16
05-15-2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by sgerbyshak
Also has anyone heard if the 2006 450r will have any worthwile updates? Or will Honda stun us with dare I say it...a new color.

Or maybe they'll really stun us. Some bold new graphics!

DirtDevilBT
05-15-2005, 07:15 PM
I have heard that all manufacturers will be changing colors for either the 2006 or 2007 year. Has anyone else heard this. I'm talking like Honda using blue, Yamaha running yellow, Suzuki running green, and so on. I don't know if the colors are right, I heard about it from a friend a few months ago.

rodenberg35
05-15-2005, 07:20 PM
I heard yamaha was gonna go with pink, suzuki- purple, and kawasaki- classic burgandy

pkb324
05-16-2005, 11:05 AM
yeh that color change thing was an april fools joke one of the sites pulled...sorry to crush your hopes on a pink yfz

dunebuggie66
05-16-2005, 11:13 AM
ok back to the question. yes service honda will build you a trx 250r for around $9000. they use a modified 400ex frame with a 2001 cr 250 motor. it's in atv action. they also have a bunch of other options, like shocks and what not.

oldsandman
05-16-2005, 11:59 AM
Service wants 9k. I'll sell anybody mine for 10k+shipping!

TRX450R2
05-16-2005, 12:39 PM
Shame! freight costs to send down would be too much?

TRXDresh
05-16-2005, 05:57 PM
The word among the upper echelon of the industry is that the 06 450r will have an electric start and a revised frame geometry (rear linkage).

Honda
05-17-2005, 11:41 PM
The word among the upper echelon of the industry is that the 06 450r will have an electric start and a revised frame geometry (rear linkage).

If they throw reverse on it, I will buy one for my wife. LOL!

Honestly, A rear link update and an extended rear swing arm would be great, maybe try and get the Center of Gravity a little lower as well and while they are at it, fix the gearing.

I recommended all of this and then some in a customer survey they sent out after I bought my 450R.

I am plenty happy with the kick starter! Electric start might be nice in some situations, but I have yet to lose a hole shot because of it, and I really don't want my -R- to weigh anymore than it already does.

chad502ex
05-18-2005, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by TRXDresh
The word among the upper echelon of the industry is that the 06 450r will have an electric start and a revised frame geometry (rear linkage).

the revised 450r frame geometry, from what i've been told, is that the engine mounts will be moved about a 1/4" backwards on the top. tilting the engine slightly back would drop the countershaft sprocket a bit and cause the attack angle on the drive train to increase; thus; allowing more wheel spin and less traction to the ground. The Pros were somewhat complaining to honda about too much traction out of the turns and Lauger (sp?) solved the problem for HONDA to implement.

more rumors- electric start, EFI, and revised frame geometry. two of these I've heard from reliable companies involved.

05-18-2005, 10:15 AM
i agree with the pros, about the traction problem. the front end is very light......the bike requires experienced throttle finesse when hill climbing. i've been shopping for tires........i want a tire that will spin, but will stand up to GNCC tracks.

chad502ex
05-18-2005, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by force
i agree with the pros, about the traction problem. the front end is very light......the bike requires experienced throttle finesse when hill climbing. i've been shopping for tires........i want a tire that will spin, but will stand up to GNCC tracks.

dood! this is why i run mud machines- cause they are 6 ply for xc and excellent hill climbing too.

05-19-2005, 10:01 AM
who's got the best deal on those? i'll have to look into them!!!

300exOH
05-19-2005, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by force
who's got the best deal on those? i'll have to look into them!!!

I have a set of mudmachines that I got from magic racing. They are an awsome tire but they are a little too much for my 300ex. I would be willing to sell them if you are interested. Here's a pic:devil:

300exOH
05-19-2005, 10:22 AM
I fogot to add that they are mounted on douglas red label rims. They are almost like new, leak free and the rims have no bends. Thanks

jeepnrocks
05-19-2005, 01:02 PM
i never ran an mx tire but they must be a ton stickier than xc tires. i have razr 2's on revalved shocks and my r hates to wheelie.

WhiteZee
05-19-2005, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by jeepnrocks
i never ran an mx tire but they must be a ton stickier than xc tires. i have razr 2's on revalved shocks and my r hates to wheelie.
actually the mx tires are even worse, they get less traction. your R wont wheelie because of your lower stance with the revalved shocks, i have the same problem.

sgerbyshak
05-21-2005, 02:57 PM
The rumer Iheard was not about the service honda 250r but Honda themselves comming out with a new 2 stroke. Is there any truth to this at all or are they only updating the 450r? Also has anyone heard abouth a new 650r?

chad502ex
05-21-2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by 300exOH
I have a set of mudmachines that I got from magic racing. They are an awsome tire but they are a little too much for my 300ex. I would be willing to sell them if you are interested. Here's a pic:devil:

how much for both?

TRXoutlaw51
05-21-2005, 09:43 PM
Yup service honda came out with their new TRX250r for 2005.. its actually out already in a 2001 400ex frame with the 2001 CR250 motor since they say its equivalent to hondas CR500AS motor... better throttle response and so on.. Still aint gonna hang wit my TRX500r.. but thats a different story!:eek2: :D

450 Racer R
05-21-2005, 09:49 PM
You guys think it has tooo much traction? lol are you crazy? can't go fast if you don't have any traction. I have a set of Razr's that are pretty much shot on a set of .190's that I'll give away for 75. I'll even burn out with them for an hour on the asphalt before I pack them up to be shipped. That should help you guys out and then honda won't have to re engineer things so that you guys can spin your tires.

chad502ex
05-22-2005, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by 450 Racer R
You guys think it has tooo much traction? lol are you crazy? can't go fast if you don't have any traction. I have a set of Razr's that are pretty much shot on a set of .190's that I'll give away for 75. I'll even burn out with them for an hour on the asphalt before I pack them up to be shipped. That should help you guys out and then honda won't have to re engineer things so that you guys can spin your tires.

dood! it's only a rumor that the pro's think it has too much traction and has lite front end. it's only a rumor that lauger (sp?) was involved working with honda engineers on the frame geo after production too. doesn't mean its true, but i remember a ways back on exriders some serious tech talk on the 450r geo subject from a rather knowledgeable frame expert. this person was in-depth on frame geo and uploaded images to support his claim too! do a search and maybe you'll have luck finding the thread- i'm just too lazy and don't really care much if honda changes or not- i love it the way it is,...

300exOH
05-23-2005, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by chad502ex
how much for both?

Sent ya a PM

05-23-2005, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by 450 Racer R
You guys think it has tooo much traction? lol are you crazy? can't go fast if you don't have any traction. I have a set of Razr's that are pretty much shot on a set of .190's that I'll give away for 75. I'll even burn out with them for an hour on the asphalt before I pack them up to be shipped. That should help you guys out and then honda won't have to re engineer things so that you guys can spin your tires.

obviously, you are not a hill climber.
i know for a fact, that the 450r can climb in it's stock form. i've had it up some steep *****. But, alot of our climbs are not only steep, they are technical too. Go take your R on a steep hill which requires weaving around trees. Then, come back and tell me what happened. And, i'm not talking some weak ***** rolly polly hill either.

When you're hill climbing it's all about maintaining momentum. It's very hard to do that, when every time you slip the clutch, the front end comes up. I rode a 250r for nearly 13 years. To me, that's where the 250r really shined!! You could hold the thing wide open and spin your way up just about anything. And, if you lost momentum, you could always slip the clutch and get the wheel spin back.

I have had my 450r up "most" of the climbs i made with the 250r. But, on the really nasty ones, the 450r is definately slower. Because, you have to let off the throttle every time the front wheels come off the ground, lightly feather the clutch, let off, feather the clutch, you get the picture. All the while, loosing speed.

So, don't come on here and tell me i'm crazy. Just go back to your dune riding and ant hill jumping.

:blah:

450ar
05-23-2005, 10:06 PM
If they moved the engine back 1/4 inch wouldnt that make the front even lighter. They should move it forward and down a whole inch. Thus lowering the center of gravity. And move the weight forward.

brandonpeake
05-23-2005, 10:14 PM
they will never make a quad that is exactly how i want b/c if they did i would prob want it different, so i just mod and change what i want the R is a great platform to build off best we have had in my opinion the z400 was nice as well but the extra power is nice and the yfz as well, im just glad we got a choice now!

blakefoote
05-24-2005, 08:28 AM
It was in ATV sport, or ATV Action magazine this month I think. It has a +1 LSR swingarm, Maxxis Razr 2s, Olins Shocks, lots of other mods. It comes in a 2005 400ex frame and plastic.

05-24-2005, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by brandonpeake
they will never make a quad that is exactly how i want b/c if they did i would prob want it different, so i just mod and change what i want the R is a great platform to build off best we have had in my opinion the z400 was nice as well but the extra power is nice and the yfz as well, im just glad we got a choice now!

i hear you, man. I totally agree. I just got a little fired up when "450 R Racer" suggested I didn't know what I was talking about.

Let's face it, they're never going to build a quad that makes "everyone" happy. I'm just glad Honda finally came out with a race quad worth buying.

sgerbyshak
07-03-2005, 02:28 PM
It looks like we will have to wait untill the trade show this fall to know what Honda will be releasing.I hope it is good...

04'400ex'er
07-03-2005, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by sgerbyshak
It looks like we will have to wait untill the trade show this fall to know what Honda will be releasing.I hope it is good... do you know this thread is over a month old?

sgerbyshak
07-03-2005, 08:31 PM
yes I do. I didnt want to wait to see so I got a 330r. Itis very fast.It is way faster than my 450r was

07-04-2005, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by sgerbyshak
yes I do. I didnt want to wait to see so I got a 330r. Itis very fast.It is way faster than my 450r was untill it blows up ;)

kwatts400
07-04-2005, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by MixMasterMike
untill it blows up ;)

I've been around a few and thats never been a problem.

07-04-2005, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by kwatts400
I've been around a few and thats never been a problem. ive ben around quite a few and thats always the problem

Jersey450R
07-04-2005, 08:13 AM
does anyone actually have pictures of these service honda 250R's in action? I doubt anyone would really but one when you can build a much better one for around 10,000. :ermm:

HAVOK
07-04-2005, 11:41 AM
My buddy ordered a service Honda 250r a week ago. I will let you all know how it runs.

sgerbyshak
07-05-2005, 09:19 PM
I paid $4800 for my 330r. For that price it can blow up about 5 times and it will still cost less than a service honda will...

HAVOK
08-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Well I raced my buddys SH250R and it is fast! I have the HRC kit and DR.D slip on and Uni filter and I got beat. We raced on pavement and I could not keep my front end down in 1st and 2nd gear untill I went into thrid. We only raced twice, before he wiped out and got some road rash and broke his clutch lever. My 450R is about 65lbs more then his 250R. We will race agine when we go back out together.

wvspeedfreak
08-08-2005, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by MixMasterMike
untill it blows up ;)

Yeah but when it does it's a hell of alot cheaper to fix.

mx250rskater
08-08-2005, 07:54 PM
the service Honda 250r is not a new thing. thats been out for a few years now... its not even good. its a CR motor which meens that it has no counter ballancer. and your nuts will hurt so bad after riding it, bolts will break loose. etc.

i meen its fast but.. its not a smart idea.

Ohh and Mixmaster.. the 330R's are more reliable than any 4stroke with serious motor mods. they will blow up easy yes. If you do not know how to keep it jetted right. otherwise they are just as reliable as any other 250r. i know alot of people with bigbore 250r's and they can keep a pistion w/o blowing it for 2 seasions b4 it even needs to be replaced (and yes they do ride them alot). The people who can not keep the jetting right depending on weather, altitude, and all that other shat are the ones who blow them up.

darkstar
08-08-2005, 08:01 PM
servise honda as a 250r's forsale that the make costum for you to tyour liking.

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Punk'd
08-08-2005, 10:46 PM
That sure would be sweet to see Honda come back with a 250r in old colors:)

mx250rskater
08-13-2005, 12:38 PM
also that service honda 250r, will handle like a 400ex, not like a 250r:o

Jersey450R
08-13-2005, 12:53 PM
The 400ex is one of the best handling quads i've ever ridden. (And yes, i ridden almost every quad made) Not to sound like that, but i have.

BLRacing619
08-13-2005, 07:47 PM
How about you all just WAIT and see:eek2:

mx250rskater
08-27-2005, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Jersey450R
The 400ex is one of the best handling quads i've ever ridden. (And yes, i ridden almost every quad made) Not to sound like that, but i have.

HA!
your oppinion is your own. thats all i say.

and yes i think we shall have to just wait and see what comes of 06'...