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popo
05-13-2005, 01:35 AM
Sad to se this happen.

BRAC List - Just off the Press
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>Army bases currently proposed for closure or realignment in 2005
>include:
>
>Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania
>Detroit Arsenal, Michigan
>Fort Belvoir, Virginia
>Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico
>Fort McPherson/Gillem, Georgia
>Fort Monmouth, New Jersey
>Fort Monroe, Virginia
>Fort Polk, Louisiana (to realign)
>Fort Richardson, Alaska
>Fort Sam Houston, Texas
>Fort Shafter, Hawaii
>Lima Army Tank Plant, Ohio
>Natick Soldier Center, Massachusetts
>Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey
>Redstone Arsenal, Alabama
>Rock Island Arsenal, Illinois
>Sierra Army Depot, California
>Yuma Proving Ground, Arizona
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>Air Force base closures and realignments include:
>
>Altus AFB, Oklahoma
>Beale AFB, California
>Brooks AFB, Texas
>Cannon AFB, New Mexico
>Columbus AFB, Mississippi
>Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota
>Goodfellow AFB, Texas
>Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota
>Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts
>Kirtland AFB, New Mexico
>Los Angeles AFB, California
>McConnell AFB, Kansas
>Nellis AFB, Nevada (to realign)
>Seymour Johnson AFB, North Carolina (to realign)
>Shaw AFB, South Carolina
>Vance AFB, Oklahoma
>
> The Air Force will lose 2,260 military and 2,839 civilian manpower
>positions, and 1,055 reserve drill authorizations next year, according to
>the 2004 force-structure announcement released July 23. Many bases, both
>active duty and reserve component, are affected by the realignment. In many
>cases, units will gain aircraft and missions, while others will pare down.
>
>Besides manpower reductions, the realignment formally announces the
> >retirement of the C-9A Nightingale and KC-135E Stratotanker aircraft.
>
> According to Air Force officials, the 20 C-9s are being retired because
>of reduced-patient movement, range limitations and increasing maintenance
>and upgrade costs. The aeromedical-evacuation mission will become a
>requirements-based system using all passenger-capable aircraft.
>
> The service will retire 44 of the Air National Guard and Air Force
>Reserve Command's 43-year-old KC-135Es next year, replacing them with 24
>KC-135Rs from the active-duty fleet. By the end of fiscal 2006, the Air
>Force will have retired 68 of the KC-135Es.
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>
> Naval base closures and realignments include:
>
>Ingleside Naval Station, Texas
>Naval Postgraduate School, California
>Naval Air Station Meridian, Mississippi
>Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst, New Jersey
>Naval Recreation Station Solomons Island,
>Naval Surface Warfare Center Crane, Indiana
>Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division, Virginia
>Navy Supply Corps School, Georgia
>New Orleans Naval Support Activity, Louisiana
>Pascagoula Naval Station, Mississippi
>Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, New Hampshire
>Saratoga Springs Naval Support Unit, New York
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>
> Marine base closures and realignments include:
>
>Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, Georgia
>Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, California (realignment) Marine Corps
>Air Station Miramar, California
>Marine Corps Mountain Warfare School, Califirnia
>Marine Reserve Support Unit, Kansas City
>Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego, California (realign or close)
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ohski
05-13-2005, 02:46 AM
I'm surprised to see a few of those that are on the list, one being FT Belvoir, VA. There is a satellite earth terminal there that is rather important.

Very interesting… thanks for posting.

Wade

Bush0102
05-13-2005, 05:32 AM
I'm surprised to see ellsworth and mcconnel...arent they big strategic bomber bases?

maynard22
05-13-2005, 07:32 AM
Mcconnel lost the bombers a number of years ago i believe.

brian-250
05-13-2005, 07:33 AM
i seen that on the news this morning:(

Tommy 17
05-13-2005, 08:13 AM
i was just talkin to the air force last night... i'm tryin to go become a pilot once i graduate college... hopefully it all goes well and i'm up there in a joint strike fighter soon:macho

i scored high enouf on my asvabs and my vision is 12/20... i gotta talk to them again soon and see what all my options are...

Butters
05-13-2005, 11:02 AM
man thats alot. i can't believe oklahoma is losing both vance and altus air force bases. if we lose tinker this state would go under.

F-16Guy
05-16-2005, 11:58 AM
My Reserve unit, the 944th FW, is going away. We're on Luke AFB, in AZ. I'm an ART (Air Reserve Technician), so I think I, along with the rest of the full-time civil service guys, will probably be integrated with the 56th FW, which is the Active Duty component of the base. Luke AFB is the largest fighter training base in the world. We've trained every F-16 pilot flying today. We have almost 200 F-16s and seven fighter squadrons, including two tenant units from Taiwan and Singapore. I spent my four years of active duty with the 56th before getting out and getting employed with the 944th as a dual status technician. The 56th has probably the highest work load per shop in the Air Force, due mostly to a very high sortie tempo, and because we own some of the oldest F-16s in the inventory. It's gonna suck working in the active duty shop again.

oldsandman
05-16-2005, 12:37 PM
Where did you get your list? The Naval Post Graduate School, Monterey is not closing. Maybe it was confused with a DOD finance and accounting office in Seaside.

awj8074
05-16-2005, 12:42 PM
You forgot the Navy Sub base in Groton CT its on there too. If it closes the towns gonna be screwed

fastexgirl4c
05-16-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by awj8074
You forgot the Navy Sub base in Groton CT its on there too. If it closes the towns gonna be screwed

Yeah, everyone around here is outraged due to the fact they are closing the only thing groton has to make the town what it is. A lot of people are going to be losing their jobs, and I don't think the people who work at the base in Groton are going to be able to find a new one around here.:(

big-guy
05-16-2005, 01:09 PM
Maybe we should close some foreign bases first... Bring our friends and family home...

blue416ex
05-16-2005, 01:51 PM
im very suprised and dissapointed that they are closing the Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst, New Jersey because that is literally 20 seconds in a car from my house from the hill on my street i can see the hangars and i know there are ALOT of jobs there nonstop there is cars going in and out of there that place is historical and important to today because they create/test the jet powered ejection seats in the planes which is a very important part in the plane and the hindenburgh (sp) crashed there IMO they should keep it open :grr: sry bout the long post . . . :ermm:

trick450r
05-16-2005, 02:42 PM
the best thing about the groton sub base is going over the high way and seeing them leave...my dad was telling me that the russians sit outside it in the sound monitoring radar equipment that records the sound of the subs and they can identify what kid it is...so since we cant stop this we have little recorders that put out random sounds...sometimes music lmfao...its also cool going by sikorski on the highway and seeing 6-7 apaches in the helicopter landing area

awj8074
05-19-2005, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by fastexgirl4c
Yeah, everyone around here is outraged due to the fact they are closing the only thing groton has to make the town what it is. A lot of people are going to be losing their jobs, and I don't think the people who work at the base in Groton are going to be able to find a new one around here.:( if it does close all the navy housing off base will probly turn into low-income housing and then we will have even more problems

05-19-2005, 01:56 PM
>Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego, California (realign or close)

I gotta agree with this one. MCRDSD grads have been getting crap from Parris Island grads forever because of claims of them getting less harsh training, so if they all go to the Island, Marines are all born in one place.

Definitely sad to see this happen though.