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p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 09:53 AM
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Round #6 of the 2005 ATVA Grand National Motocross Championship takes place at Budds Creek in Leondardtown, Maryland. Even with the rain, there are over 700 entries, which is 100+ more than last year!

The races have been delayed an hour today because of the mud an wet conditions. They scraped a foot of mud off the track, and no one practiced this morning. During yesterdays practice, only 3 pros went out, and Jason Luburgh broke his collar bone. Lets hope for the best today!

Please hold comments till the end of the broadcast, or head over to the Budds Creek Discussion Thread (http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159602)....thanks!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:08 AM
The parade lap is over, prayer has been said, and the National Anthem is done...... time for racing!

Pro moto 1 is underway!!!!

Farr gets the holeshot
Natalie in second
Gust in third

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:09 AM
wimmer -5
little - 6
lamborn -7

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:11 AM
Natalie takes the lead...
Farr in second
Gust in third..

Natalie stretching his lead....

Dunk in fourth, Wimmer in fifth, Little in sixth

Spader -7th
Attix -8th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:13 AM
Wimmer pressuring for 4th



Jones just outside in 9th

Byrd - 10th
Ellis - 11th
Cain -12th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:14 AM
Jones pressuring Attix....

Ellis trying to break in to the top 10

Natalie way out in front!!

Wimmer all over Dunk trying for fourth...

Jones moves in to 8th!

Gust a little off pace, still in third.

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:16 AM
Wimmer still hammering hard on Dunks door!

Natalie walking away in the lead!

Little now joining the battle for fourth!

Jones still in 8th.

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:19 AM
Natalie with a massive lead after passing Farr in lap 1.
Farr in second, Gust in third....

Big race for fourth... threeway between Dunk, Wimmer and Little!

Jones - 8th
Byrd - 9th
Attix - 10th
Ellis - 11th
Cain - 12th
White - 13th
Haavisto - 14th
Goodman - 15th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Gust now on Farrs backdoor!

Wimmer takes the fourth spot!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:22 AM
Natalie still has a huge lead!!!

Farr and Gust battling for second.

Wimmer still in fourth.

Dunk in fifth. Little falling back a bit.



Now Little drops out!!

suz z400 2003
05-01-2005, 11:23 AM
where is pat brown?

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:23 AM
Dunk -5th
Spader - 6th
Jones - 7th
Byrd - 8th
Cain - 9th
Haavisto - 10th
Goodman - 11th
Attix - 12th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:25 AM
Natalie with a 9 second lead!

Spader moves into 5th, Dunk drops back to 6th

Jones moving up also!

Gust all over Farr!!!!


I believe Brown had a tangle off the start.

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:27 AM
Gust and Farr still fighting for 2nd..... Wimmer closing in!

Wimmer - 4th
Spader - 5th
Jones - moves to 6th
Byrd - 7th
Dunk - 8th
Cain - 9th
White - 10th

Haavisto and Brown battling for 12th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:29 AM
Gust almost makes the pass on Farr!!!!


Wimmer moving in on the fight for second!

Wimmer trying to pass Gust, Gust trying to pass Farr!


Wimmer makes the pass on Gust...... Gust passes him back!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:30 AM
White flag is out!!!! Natalie wayyyyy out in front!

Farr, Gust and Wimmer still fighting!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:31 AM
Jones pressing Spader for fifth!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 11:33 AM
Natalie takes the checkered flag!!!

Farr takes second
Gust third
Wimmer takes fourth
Spader - fifth
Jones - sixth



Announcer says he wants to see John Natalie and Ricky Carmichael race this track together!!!! HA!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 12:12 PM
Feel free to discuss and cheer in the Budds Creek Discussion thread (http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159602)

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 01:15 PM
Pro Moto 1 Results

1 - John Natalie
2 - Tim Farr
3 - Doug Gust
4 - Dustin Wimmer
5 - Travis Spader
6 - Jeremiah Jones
7 - Travis Cain
8 - Joe Haavisto
9 - Pat Brown
10 - Harold Goodman
11 - Donald Lysinger
12 - Gilbert Attix
13 - Matt White
14 - Donald Lamborn
15 - Bres
16 - Josh Wimmer
17 - Joe Byrd
18 - Keith Little
19 - Kory Ellis
20 - Jason Dunkelberger

Ellis, Little, Dunk and Byrd all broke down.
Byrd and Little pushed their atvs across the line.

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:20 PM
Here we go, back again with Pro Moto #2!!!

Gates have dropped and they're off......

Farr gets the holeshot again
Jones in second
Gust in third
Natalie back in 6th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:22 PM
Farr -1
Jones -2
Gust -3
Natalie moves up to fourth
Haavisto in fifth
Wimmer in sixth

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Team Suzuki closing hard on Farrs heels

Natalie pressing Gust


Jones takes over the lead......
Farr takes it back!!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:24 PM
Farr
Jones
Gust
Natalie
Wimmer
Haavisto
Goodman
Lamborn
Byrd
Brown

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:25 PM
Natalie just tapped Gust, almost off the track!

Natalie takes over third, and heads after Jones!

Big battle at the front....

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:25 PM
Jones just dropped out of the top 5!

Farr
Natalie
Wimmer takes third!!!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Natalie racing hard! Heading for Farr, but Wimmer is showing Natalie a wheel!!!

Natalie goes down HARD after flat landing a table top jump into the mud which sent him over the bars.

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Farr out in the lead
Wimmer in second
Gust in third
Goodman in fourth

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:28 PM
Wimmer side by side with Farr!!!!!!!

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05-01-2005, 02:29 PM
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p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:30 PM
Wimmer all over Farr looking for the lead!

Gust closing on the leaders....

Keith Little had to pull over.....

Goodman - 4th
Spader - 5th
Byrd - 6th
Brown - 7th
Bres - 8th
Attix - 9th
Haavisto - 10th
Natalie back up in 11th
Cain - 12th
Dunk - 13th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:31 PM
Jones is near the back in 17th......

Farr in the lead, Wimmer in second...

Gust in third

Goodman may have some mechanical problems

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:32 PM
Brown pressuring Byrd....

Jones makes it past 3 riders this lap!

05-01-2005, 02:33 PM
I gotta see the moto 2 videos, this is a killer moto.:devil: :macho :macho

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:33 PM
Farr still has the lead, Wimmer in second, Gust in third...

Spader - 4th
Brown - 5th
Bres - 6th
Attix - 7th
Haavisto - 8th
Cain - 9th
Byrd - 10th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:36 PM
Wimmer still trying to get past Farr.....

Gust waiting in third...

Brown charging past Spader to take fourth

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:37 PM
Gust starts pushing hard, catching the leaders....

Spader back in fourth, Brown in fifth..

Jones is moving up fast!

Brown goes down!!!

Attix moves up to fifth

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:40 PM
Farr, Wimmer and Gust out front....


Spader
Attix - 5th
Haavisto
Byrd
Cain
Jones..... just past Cain to move into 8th

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:40 PM
White flag is out!!!!!

Wimmer still pressuring Farr hard!

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Natalie down a couple laps....

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:43 PM
Checkered flag is waving!

Farr takes the win, and the overall!!

Wimmer takes second
Gust takes third
Spader in fourth
Haavisto in fifth
Attix in sixth

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Pro Overall Results

Tim Farr gets first

Dustin Wimmer gets second

Doug Gust gets third

Trevino36
05-01-2005, 02:50 PM
What exactly happened to John Natalie?

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 02:51 PM
I want to say Thanks to Rick Frisco and his wife from Remns Productions (http://www.remnsproductions.com/) for all the help with the coverage!!!!!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:32 PM
Harlen let me off for the weekend and where did i end up:o

Only at the GNC rippin' off some cool pics of the riders:macho

Remns will be providing full lap by lap coverage so just sit back and check out some shots of the race!

Dunk

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:34 PM
Farr

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Attix was hammering during the early morning practice session.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:38 PM
Jeremiah Jones

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:41 PM
The track was a bit mucky but after a few heat races it turned into a track everyone could race hard on!

A little more Jones:macho

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:43 PM
Dunk was stylin for my lens!:macho

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:46 PM
Spader was getting warmed up.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:47 PM
Keith Little

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:49 PM
Them guys sure make it look so easy:p

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:50 PM
Jones was full of smiles while he greeted fans and signed autographs

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:54 PM
A sneak peek over Little's shoulder:scary:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:55 PM
Did'nt you guys know I can shoot MX also:devil:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:57 PM
I will admit, nailing the Pro's was a job. In a race setting with them hammering down it was all i could do to grab a few decent shots:p

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 03:58 PM
Pro Moto 2 Results

1 - Tim Farr
2 - Dustin Wimmer
3 - Doug Gust
4 - Travis Spader
5 - Gil Attix
6 - Joe Haavisto
7 - Joe Byrd
8 - Travis Cain
9 - Jeremiah Jones
10 - Justin Bres
11 - Matt White
12 - Jason Dunkelberger
13 - Don Lysinger
14 - Donald Lamborn
15 - Josh Wimmer
16 - Keith Little
17 - Pat Brown
18 - John Natalie
19 - Harold Goodman DNF
20 - Kory Ellis - DNS (stalled at start and never got going)

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 03:58 PM
Pro Moto Overall Results

1 - Tim Farr
2 - Dustin Wimmer
3 - Doug Gust
4 - Travis Spader
5 - Joe Haavisto
6 - Travis Cain
7 - Jeremiah Jones
8 - Gil Attix
9 - John Natalie
10 - Joe Byrd
11 - Matt White
12 - Don Lysinger
13 - Justin Bres
14 - Pat Brown
15 - Donald Lamborn
16 - Harold Goodman
17 - Josh Wimmer
18 - Jason Dunkelberger
19 - Keith Little
20 - Kory Ellis

Pappy
05-01-2005, 03:59 PM
Goodman getting ready for heat 1 during the hot lap.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:02 PM
Donald Lysinger

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:04 PM
Joe Haavisto

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:06 PM
Dunk is so easy to shoot. Smooth as silk!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:09 PM
There sure is some differences between GNC and GNCC racing:p

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:10 PM
Cant forget about Digger Doug Gust!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:12 PM
Team Hetricks rider Matt White

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:13 PM
I will post some more shortly...that is if you want to see more:confused:

motochicksmom
05-01-2005, 04:20 PM
Nice pics...THANKS....duh, of course we want to see more!!!!!!!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:23 PM
well if you insist:o

beware, it was a long day and some of the pictures might have not been sharp....like this one:devil:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:25 PM
Farr was chasing down Natalie in the 1st moto, but Natalie wasnt going to be caught

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:28 PM
I believe if the track had been a bit wider in a few turns Gust would have taken a position from Farr (the corners were tight and some had piles of mud just off the main line)

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:29 PM
This was actually the first GNC ive ever attended:eek:

MXRACER86
05-01-2005, 04:30 PM
SHOW ME ALL THE PICTURES YOU GOT!!!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:31 PM
Jones was riding hard, but time ran out for him to grab more spots

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Im still undecided which event id rather shoot...GNC or GNCC:devil:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:35 PM
I should have taken all crappy shots so i wouldnt get sent to another GNC:D Oh well:devil:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:37 PM
The amatuer races, to me, were actually more fun to watch. They didnt hold anything back and were banging bars everywhere!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:39 PM
I didnt check, but I'm geussing Natalie had an easy 10 to 15 second lead in the 1st moto

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:40 PM
The race to watch in moto 1 was between Gust and Farr

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:42 PM
Id like to spend a few days shooting these guys. they are pretty predictable on the jumps

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 04:43 PM
Looks like the leader boards may change a little too....

Number RIDER NAME TOT

4 Timothy Farr 135
13 John Natalie Jr 129
55 Doug J Gust 116
2 Jeremiah Jones 107
30 Travis Spader 97
12 Keith Little 81
53 Kory Ellis 73
7 Joe Byrd 73
191 Dustin Wimmer 69
6 Tavis Cain 58
19 Jason Dunkelberger 57
199 Patrick Brown 55
32 Matt White 52
75 Joe Haavisto 52
708 Harold Goodman 51
8 Jason Luburgh 44
309 Gilbert M Attix 30
411 Donald Lysinger 27
Dustin Nelson 22
80 Donald Lamborn 16

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:43 PM
Gust is one rider that appeared to be able to reel in whoever was in front of him.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:44 PM
Ive never seen Jones ride except for video. To me it seems if he just isnt the same on a 4 stroke.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:45 PM
Joe Byrd looks over to his left keeping the next spot in check

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Attix has some serious potential

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:49 PM
Natalie is in peak physical condition and its showing, race after race

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Farr had his hands full with Gust and unless Natalies quad broke in half before the checkers, they didnt have a chance of catching him!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:52 PM
Gust started really applying pressure to Farr late in the race

p@iNn3ck
05-01-2005, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
I should have taken all crappy shots so i wouldnt get sent to another GNC:D Oh well:devil:

I dont think that is possible!!! :devil:

Those pics are awesome, keep em coming!

05-01-2005, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
I should have taken all crappy shots so i wouldnt get sent to another GNC:D Oh well:devil: Hey man, what the hell is that supposed to mean???:mad: Hahahaha

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:53 PM
Dunk was picking up the pace and started closing into those battling infront of him

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:55 PM
Byrd was throwing some serious body english

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:57 PM
Haha, dont get me wrong, I had a blast. I was just out of my element thats all:p

natalie sends it high as he continued to walk away from the field

Pappy
05-01-2005, 04:58 PM
Natalie working the turn

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:00 PM
Natalie checks to see where everyone is:p

I snapped those last 3 pictures of Natalie and only missed Farr in the air on teh first pictured jump:eek:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:01 PM
Farr and Gust

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:01 PM
Wimmer

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:02 PM
Dunk chasing down Wimmer

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:03 PM
High Point I will be at, so i hopre to get even better pics:D

Jones charging hard

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:04 PM
Byrd heading for the downside

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:06 PM
None of these guys are skeert of big air!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:07 PM
I was actually getting wore out watching these guys hammer for what seemed like forever:p

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:09 PM
I wanted to get more shots of these guys in the turns, but the sun wasnt right. never mind the fact that the turns had such a berm built up from the rain and track personel pushing the mud it was pointless:p

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:11 PM
With the dust held to a minimum i took what i could get!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:12 PM
If Farr made a mistake, Gust was going to make him pay for it!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:13 PM
The better part of the race this is what you saw!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:15 PM
I like it when the competition gets close:devil:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:17 PM
Gust made a move but it didnt stick.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:19 PM
Natalie looks over and checks out the short old dude with the camera:bandit:


Actually he was just keeping an eye on Farr and Gust :p

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:20 PM
White took out Dunk:(

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:21 PM
They got the quads seperated but Dunks quad broke during the collision, leaving him sitting:(

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:22 PM
Dunk takes a seat and wipes the sweat from his eyes. He was a true sportsman and wasnt mad at all. Good show Dunk! Your what its all about!

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:23 PM
Ellis didnt fair any better and was towed off the track.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:26 PM
Folks, thats about all i have of the pro riders. Im sure i have more pics of them but that should hold you over for now:p

ofcourse there is a few hundred shots of the amatuers:chinese:

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:30 PM
Ok , 1 more.

This youth rider hit hard, never came off the quad and finished racing! The shot caught me off gaurd so im sorry about it being fuzzy. How he saved it I have no idea, im just glad he wasnt hurt and kept on keepin on:macho

wvspeedfreak
05-01-2005, 05:39 PM
Cool pics Pappy.I am really starting to dig the MX thing lately.

MXBlaster23
05-01-2005, 05:48 PM
Nice Shots! Are you going to post all your shots ina gallery somewhere?

Pappy
05-01-2005, 05:51 PM
gallary...lmao

im on dial up, it would take 2 weeks for me to try to upload them:(

fastexgirl4c
05-01-2005, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
Ok , 1 more.

This youth rider hit hard, never came off the quad and finished racing! The shot caught me off gaurd so im sorry about it being fuzzy. How he saved it I have no idea, im just glad he wasnt hurt and kept on keepin on:macho

:eek: im pretty sure thats robbie leanord(sp) ..he races neatv also..

BlueZ440
05-01-2005, 06:01 PM
GrEat Job..

MXBlaster23
05-01-2005, 06:07 PM
Any pictures of #20 or #21 in the pro am classes or number 122 in the A classes?

lil400exdude
05-01-2005, 06:09 PM
thet #152 is fast, i saw him ride at southfork, and hes got sum bad arse cannondales.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by MXBlaster23
Any pictures of #20 or #21 in the pro am classes or number 122 in the A classes?

is this the rider?

Pappy
05-01-2005, 06:16 PM
how about this?

MXBlaster23
05-01-2005, 06:19 PM
Yup thats them. I know number 751 in the 2nd picture too, hes from Ohio also but doesnt live by me. You know any of the pro am results or how they did. #20 is Upperman and #21 Kendall.

Pappy
05-01-2005, 06:19 PM
like white in rice:p this was the best racing of the day

Pappy
05-01-2005, 06:21 PM
im pretty sure all the results are posted in the other thread.

Dupontster
05-01-2005, 06:43 PM
Pappy, I sure wish I had of known you were there...I would have said "hey"....I am sure we probably bumped into you ten times....We covered that place from top to bottom side to side...Sorry I missed you....Excellent pictures....

Pappy
05-01-2005, 06:46 PM
i saw your quad but you werent around.

we tried walking more of the pits but Ryan (my 7 year old) was giving us fits wanting to tear off and jump in the mud:p so we stuck to teh hard road and saw what we could from there.

once the action started, my place is trackside so thats where i was:p a few folks shout "PAPPY" as they raced by so it was all good:D

Pappy
05-01-2005, 06:51 PM
I was pretty happy to see this:p wait till ya see where else we start popping up:devil:

baker250r
05-01-2005, 06:53 PM
got any pics of womens b/c?

Airik79mx
05-02-2005, 05:00 AM
4-Stroke A pics??? #407 #707 #40

chad502ex
05-02-2005, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
gallary...lmao

im on dial up, it would take 2 weeks for me to try to upload them:(

dood awesome pictures. Where were you Pappy? Looks like all over. Wish I knew you were there. Would have been nice to hook up with ya for a bit of talk.

itlnstln
05-02-2005, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Atkins450
Wimmer knocked Natalie out that *******!


Wimmer didn't even touch natalie, he wasn't that close. Natalie tried to pass Farr in the air over a table top and colided with him in the air, sending him over the handle bars on the landing.

But that was after he took both Suzuki riders out, with some of the dirtiest racing i've ever seen...

jlhughes750
05-02-2005, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by itlnstln


But that was after he took both Suzuki riders out, with some of the dirtiest racing i've ever seen...


Dirtiest or hardest......... don't knock these guys till u can get out there and ride like them......:grr: I'm sure Wimmer did nothing intentionally, and if he did.......well heck he was on the podium and they weren't!!!!!!!! so good for him..keep it up Dustin!!!! Way to ride!!!

RemNS
05-02-2005, 07:46 AM
Pappy,
Next time you introduce yourself say Hey I'm Pappy!
I didnt even know that was you!
I was going kinda crazy at that point of the day though!
Nice to somewhat meet you!
Great pics also!

Get ready for the whole editorial style race report from the Pro Race and video of all of what happened in both motos!
I think that I only missed the White and Dunk mishap and maybe Brown going down but as for the rest of it,,,,,,,, I got front row seats for you guys to see what went on!

The Production Class Blow Out of Coverage will be up by Wednesday this week!

Just to clear a little up, Natalie Got bumped a good bit on the downhill after the start and I'm sure he got a little pissed about it!

He bumped back a little and it was more obvious in the sections that it happened!

I don't know maybe he spun Gust and Jones out because he dos'ent like suzuki's!

Johnny was a little impatient but to some people rubbin is racin!

Made it an interesting race though!

I know that Gust and Jones were pissed after John spun them out also!

You could see it in Gust's riding style that he wantexd revenge on Natalie!

After Natalie got up behind Farr, He pressured him a lot and they both went off a table together and touched in the air!

Natalie landed in the soft loomy stuff and hit at a dead stop and went over the bars !

In all honesty, it looked like Farr was holding back on that jump all weekend because in the second moto he almost got landed on by Jones and Wimmer also!

John might have miscalculated and jumped beside Tim when he might not have wanted to!

Anyway, Great racing and what happened was paid back I guess you can say! Maybe Gust and Jones will start break checking if the spin out reoccurs!

That's racing when there are a lot of things up for grab!

Time to go to the next round and leave everything back at Budds Creek!

Just my opinion !

Until then !

Rick

jlhughes750
05-02-2005, 07:52 AM
Awsome reply REMNS....

rubbin IS racing..... and knowing how not to get spun is too.....

this is also a points battle so , we can see whos using there head!!!! I think its great for competition!!;)

itlnstln
05-02-2005, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by jlhughes750
Dirtiest or hardest......... don't knock these guys till u can get out there and ride like them......:grr: I'm sure Wimmer did nothing intentionally, and if he did.......well heck he was on the podium and they weren't!!!!!!!! so good for him..keep it up Dustin!!!! Way to ride!!!


First off...I was not talking about wimmer. I think wimmer did awesome all weekend, he dominated the qualifier, and in my oppinion if he had got around Farr in the second moto he might have pulled away from everyone.

Second... Suzuki's Doug Gust was on the podium, he took third over all (and should i mention after a very hard crash in round 5, I couldn't believe he went out there and did soo well)

Pappy
05-02-2005, 09:41 AM
I am staying out of the issue:D what happened happened, and next round I hope these guys act like the Pro riders that they are! At thier level, with the pressures they have on them, sooner or later its bound to give way to an incident.

Turn to Nascar for example...certainly not as much $$ on the line but the emotions are just as high. Now if John had waited till Farr and Gust came around and threw his helmet at them it would be different:D


RemNS....no prob man, im used to being an unknown....I like it that way:cool:

ROBBSRACING
05-02-2005, 10:56 AM
nope that aint robbie leonard its Jason Conell (7)from neatv

p@iNn3ck
05-02-2005, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
Now if John had waited till Farr and Gust came around and threw his helmet at them it would be different:D

Lets see..... thats happened in Nascar AND Supercross.....:devil:

We're not stooping to their level!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 01:57 PM
I have a few more.

and yes, i have the womens class, but those shots will be in the actual race coverage thread

Pappy
05-02-2005, 01:58 PM
i didnt take as many shots as i should have. maybe ill turn it loose at the next one

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:00 PM
catching 2 riders or more is always cool

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:01 PM
i sure am glad it didnt rain on sunday:p

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:02 PM
power washing between moto's sure helps!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:04 PM
It was hard to pick out anyone from the side of the track that i knew

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:06 PM
the first rider or two past me could be seen, other then that it was looking bleak to find a number plate that was clean

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:07 PM
450R's and YFZ's all look the same once they have been treated to a good roost job

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:09 PM
the track hasnt really changed much since i raced it back in the late 80's

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:10 PM
this guy had me looking twice, for a second i thought it was Lou (quad041)

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:11 PM
There were some sharp looking mini quads there!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:12 PM
dual a arm kits look pretty radical on the small quads

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:13 PM
the first few heat races of the day were a bit nasty in spots!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:14 PM
symetrical roost:p

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:16 PM
instead of walking, i whipped out the big lens and was getting shots all over the course:D

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:18 PM
i was happy to not have to walk them hills non stop!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:19 PM
Joel Hetrick on his sweet 90

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:20 PM
some of these mini racers can top $16k:eek:

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:21 PM
Joel Hetrick airing it out!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:23 PM
how about a 450R chassis set up with a 90cc set up!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:25 PM
a few of the 90 mod riders could ride now!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:26 PM
the set ups seemed very close between the top riders

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:27 PM
i love watchin these kids hammer down!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:28 PM
a few more shots from the hot lap

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:30 PM
i dont think i will pass up the chance to attend another GNC;)

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:31 PM
is riding around on a golf car the "IN" thing at the races:confused:

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:32 PM
i bet i almost got plowed by a few carts:scary:

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:34 PM
not sure who this is:(

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:36 PM
#99

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:37 PM
Brown

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:39 PM
The YFZ is still the best looking quad in my book:chinese:

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:40 PM
Natalie and the crowd!

Pappy
05-02-2005, 02:44 PM
as this rider rides away, so does the pictures i had to post for you guys:D

hope you enjoyed them, and im looking forward to meeting some more folks at the next one!

chad502ex
05-02-2005, 03:56 PM
moto 2 holeshot

chad502ex
05-02-2005, 04:03 PM
kinda corny here- i was bored for a couple seconds,...

TCracin440ex
05-02-2005, 04:45 PM
so....who is leading far as points...as i can recall at birch creek natalie was first in points and farr was 2nd

if im correct farr should be 1st in points now

mike bartolini
05-02-2005, 04:54 PM
you dont take out your team mate when he"s in1st in points if you have a clean pass take it dont try to prove your somebody by taking someone out when your nobody:mad:

Pappy
05-02-2005, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by mike bartolini
you dont take out your team mate when he"s in1st in points if you have a clean pass take it dont try to prove your somebody by taking someone out when your nobody:mad:

maybe you havent read Johns post:confused:


Originally posted by IronManNatalie
Alright guys here we go.

Wimmer never touched me at all. I was trying to pass timmy for the lead and we went over a tabletop together and timmy hit a hole and drifted over twords me and landed on my front end and it stopped my front wheels and sent me over the bars. no big deal, thats racing.

Now as for the whole thing with Doug and Jerimiah, yeah there was some bumping but it wasnt a "tee bone" like some people have been saying. Jerimiah was going through the turn b 4 the finish line and was too far sideways from lack of traction and I tapped his rear wheel with my left front tire and he spun around. As for doug, we were comming up the uphill to a sharp right handed turn and I was on the inside of him and slid out and bumped him into the deep dirt. it was not a tee bone. The part that everyone forgets is that both of them hit me hard in the start. Going down to the second turn JJ used me as a berm and put me out in the deep dirt. also last year Doug hit me so hard at mount morris that he broke my bike, Nobody called that rough riding. he also slammed Timmy at casey 2 years ago with pictures of him hitting him directly in the side, nobody said anything then either. last year jj took me out by running dircetly into the back of me, I didnt protest. come on guys if your going to bump and hit people dont cry when it happens to you. I might not have handled myself exactly the way I should have, and for that I apologize to all of my fans out there. I will come to red bud stroger than I have been all year!! If they want to bump there they will have to catch me!!

Thanks everyone

John Natalie #13

p.s. If you have any questions feel free to ask me. Ill tell you the truth.

mike bartolini
05-02-2005, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by mike bartolini
you dont take out your team mate when he"s in1st in points if you have a clean pass take it dont try to prove your somebody by taking someone out when your nobody:mad: go john kyle said getem at red bud

mike bartolini
05-02-2005, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by mike bartolini
go john kyle said getem at red bud thanks thay said wimmer got into him thanks for the heads up my bag

Harvey
05-02-2005, 05:47 PM
I'd still like to hear EVERYONE's side of their story. Too bad we can't hear WImmers, Farrs, Gust, Jones, Browns, Dunks etc. May prove to be very interesting. We're hearing different sides from the spectators too? Hum???

JRDrider22
05-02-2005, 05:53 PM
Natalie,
all i got to say is, your the best if not the greatest rider ive seen. not only are you awesome on the track, your with this sport 100%. you werent in the trailors like the only guys. you were out and talking with us having a good time. i didnt care how long your line was, i wanted your autograph, and i got it. you showed everyone whats the pros really should be doing. by the way your body language through the air is unreal, i was amazed how fast you were in person. great racing. good luck in 2 weeks.

400grl
05-02-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Harvey
I'd still like to hear EVERYONE's side of their story. Too bad we can't hear WImmers, Farrs, Gust, Jones, Browns, Dunks etc. May prove to be very interesting. We're hearing different sides from the spectators too? Hum???

It would be awesome if other Pro's posted on here.......since so many of us read this coverage.......but so far Natalie is one of the only one's that posts pretty regularly. I don't know if it's because they don't want to take the time, they don't care, or they would rather not post in a public forum ...........like I said, I think it's great that Natalie talks to everyone.

dunk19d
05-02-2005, 09:01 PM
I think that some of the pros don't actually read this, some of them do and just don't take the time to post a reply, and some of them read it and don't want to post a reply, reason being. They just don't want to get caught up with these people making assumptions about the racing, their attitudes, and so on! I just hope that i don't get verbally attacked on here from someone that doesn't even know me! Then have 50 other people agree with the first person and have it grow until the whole thread is bashing me for really no reason at all!!! Yes i'm talkin from experience here! Now back to the racing! Yes its the Pro class, yes its aggresive, yes its crazy racing against all the pros! Is there ever dirty riding? Sometimes their is! Is there a fine line that shouldn't be crossed when it comes to just how much you will put yourself and other riders in danger to make a pass? Absolutely! I'm not goin to say any names or point any fingers. Cause i think everyone has made a pass at one time or another that might not have been the cleanest or nicest pass ever made! I think i'll end with that for now. I definately didn't have to great of a day this past weekend at budds. I'll be ready for Red Bud next weekend!!! I also wanna thank everyone for all their support for the sport! Whether it be at the races or checking atvriders for the results! Everything helps! The fans are what keeps this sport growing as rapidly as it is. All your support is greatly appreciated! Without you the sport wouldn't be where it is today!


see you at the races,

Jason Dunkelberger #19

mountaineer
05-02-2005, 09:16 PM
Hey Dunk you were flying this weekend to bad you had some bad luck. get them at red bud. good luck

Pappy
05-02-2005, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by dunk19d
They just don't want to get caught up with these people making assumptions about the racing, their attitudes, and so on! I just hope that i don't get verbally attacked on here from someone that doesn't even know me!

no worries dunk, we got your back:macho thanks for giving us some great racing!

TCracin440ex
05-02-2005, 09:43 PM
i pat both natalie and dunk on the back for comming here on atvriders.com and posting replys about races and the mishaps...some wouldnt do that because of the flames they would get...

better luck next race dunk!!

gunkis84
05-02-2005, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
Joe Haavisto

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/gunkis84/haavisto.jpg

gotta give it up for my cousin joe HE IS THE MAN!!! good job joe and nice pics Pappy


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/gunkis84/haavisto2.bmp

WestCoast Editor
05-02-2005, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by dunk19d
I think that some of the pros don't actually read this, some of them do and just don't take the time to post a reply, and some of them read it and don't want to post a reply, reason being. They just don't want to get caught up with these people making assumptions about the racing, their attitudes, and so on! I just hope that i don't get verbally attacked on here from someone that doesn't even know me! Then have 50 other people agree with the first person and have it grow until the whole thread is bashing me for really no reason at all!!! Yes i'm talkin from experience here! Now back to the racing! Yes its the Pro class, yes its aggresive, yes its crazy racing against all the pros! Is there ever dirty riding? Sometimes their is! Is there a fine line that shouldn't be crossed when it comes to just how much you will put yourself and other riders in danger to make a pass? Absolutely! I'm not goin to say any names or point any fingers. Cause i think everyone has made a pass at one time or another that might not have been the cleanest or nicest pass ever made! I think i'll end with that for now. I definately didn't have to great of a day this past weekend at budds. I'll be ready for Red Bud next weekend!!! I also wanna thank everyone for all their support for the sport! Whether it be at the races or checking atvriders for the results! Everything helps! The fans are what keeps this sport growing as rapidly as it is. All your support is greatly appreciated! Without you the sport wouldn't be where it is today!


see you at the races,

Jason Dunkelberger #19




Dunk,

I just wanna say that you are one of the most awesomest racers. And I think that you are one of the nicest guys out there. And hanging out when you were here in cali in 2004 with Brown was awesome especially with the walkie talkies.... and I just wanna say sorry that you broke first moto but you, Brown, and Ellis are my favorite riders, and I hope that i can be as fast as you someday....

Brittany
#23

phil52
05-02-2005, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Atkins450
I gotta see the moto 2 videos, this is a killer moto.:devil: :macho :macho
where is this video???

400grl
05-03-2005, 12:05 AM
WOohooo!!! Another Pro on here!!! That's awesome!!! I can understand the "getting flamed" issues....happens alot.....heresay spreads rumors faster than the speed of light sometimes.....but that's why it's great to be able to correct incorrect assumptions - or at least share some other views......everyone can step back then and take a more informed view of things.......

Thanks for the excellent coverage again, and thanks againt to the pro racers who take the time to talk to us.....:D

JHF219
05-03-2005, 09:29 AM
this is a post made by august goebel found it interesting


that was a VERY dirty move of natalie, if you guys dont know natalie use to be INFAMOUS for dirty passing and spinning people out in the pro-am and lower divisions, i think he got frustrated he was having a hard time with doug and thought if he didnt get around him it would slow him down. Natalie better watch it out there , its bad enough to piss off doug gust , its worse to make everybody out there your racing with the #1 Target.

BlueZ440
05-03-2005, 09:56 AM
Man I wish people would just let this bumping,hitting,spinning topic DIE.. It's a different week and another race is around the corner..:cool:

baker250r
05-03-2005, 10:32 AM
so when is the race coverage goona get posted? im sick of hearin about who hit who... i wanna see the lap by lap pics! lol :macho

400lighted
05-03-2005, 10:56 AM
Removed - By Admin

If you want an answer to your question, send John Natalie a PM.

quadgirl186
05-03-2005, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
not sure who this is:(

That is JB Racing Team Member Jake Balsiger. He rides 4-Stroke A as well as 265 A.

Also has awesome style

diangelo#67
05-03-2005, 05:18 PM
as for the hitting thing I see where everyone is coming from and I think john said it best.. no john is not my idle and I dont think he's the best that ever wuz or will be. do I think the guy is having a great year hell yeah!!!!!!! to the people who saw john wreck, that was something else this guy held onto the handle bars the whole way down. his body bounced 2FEET off the ground and he got up and finished the race. it was amazing.. john I don't think you should have pressured so hard after you where a lap down.. but hey when your in the heat of the moment in a race somtimes you do things you might I SAID MIGHT regret later ,it happens
I forgive him and say keep on keep'n on john

guess everybody forgot about poor ol' jason luburgh and his broken collar bone this weekend:(

bansheex
05-03-2005, 05:45 PM
A little bumping and grinding here and there is normal, everyone does it in all classes from c to pro. The thing that isn't normal is all the whining about it. I know I will probably get blasted for this post but Suzuki seems to be doing the majority of the crying.Get over it, you can't hit what you can't catch.Isn't blocking a faster rider from passing a little dirty? If that is stratagy than so is a little nudge in the corner.I watched John Natalie race at Pymatuning at the last Matt Bartosek race and he got taken out from behind by someone, got going again, came back and won the race.If I remember correct when intervieved he was joking about getting spun out, no crying about it at all.If someone is worried about getting tapped than its time to step it up or move out of the way. Good luck John and don't change your style at all.

Racer818
05-03-2005, 08:18 PM
:grr: Why do you all keep saying things about protests. Suzuki didn't protest from what I hear. The ref walked up to gust before he even stopped his quad and had him follow him. That if you ask me is not Suzuki. Yes, The winner always seems to get protested a lot. Suzuki was protested a tone last year. Did you all read the magazine? They checked their helments, their shoes where illegal, Gust cheated in the start by rolling back. Suzuki got tore down. I didn't one time hear Gust or Suzuki crying about a protest. Nothing against John but who cares if you get protested. Suck it up and take the spotlight with pride. Suzuki did last year. That is all part of winning. Don't try to bring up the past leave it in the past. The video will tell the story when they post that. Let the racing go on and get over it. Whoever takes the championship derserves it. Quit ragging on one or the other Doug and John are both great riders. None of you have the right to dog either one of them unless you are out thier with them. John if you read this I suggest you leave it alone don't try to defend youself people will belieave what they beleive. Put it behind you put your chin up and race the next race. Doug and John are both champions in my eyes. I hope they both act like it at the next race.

tamehart
05-03-2005, 08:28 PM
Very nice pictures guys.

As far as this other discussion...I have heard some people talk like they are a pro and they know everything that goes on. Most of us are not even close to that level. Racing is Racing and that is my opinion to he story.

mike bartolini
05-04-2005, 05:05 PM
i dont think you guys have no clue what your talking about let it go their at a hole new level its over go to the next race start over you think john & doug sit their and dewell on it thats why their on top. thay wont to win every time out thats why there #1 tim the same way

Johnny_G
05-04-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by 400grl
I can understand the "getting flamed" issues....happens alot.....heresay spreads rumors faster than the speed of light sometimes.....but that's why it's great to be able to correct incorrect assumptions - or at least share some other views......everyone can step back then and take a more informed view of things.......

Corry:

It would be great if everyone was as enthusiastic, and open minded as you, but unfortunatley alot of times anything we post in public forums gets turned around and thrown back at us. I have learned alot this week though, and have finally decided that since you can't please everyone you just have to grow thicker skin, and take the gossip and wisecracks as a compliment of sorts. I guess if the internet isn't gabbing about you then you have officially fallen of the radar:eek:

I love all my internet fans, and everytime I get an email or PM from them it makes all the cracks and jabs I see about me dissapear:macho

MXRACER86
05-04-2005, 05:56 PM
All you guys do know that if there is a protest in the pro class, none of the pro's get paid till they find out if the protest was true are not! That makes it very hard for the pro's to afford racing when they can't get paid for at least 10 DAY'S!!!

lobomx250r
05-04-2005, 06:07 PM
i saw the video from the other budds creek post. it looked like Natalie ate it because of either wimmer or farrs rear wheel. I couldnt see exactly who it was but the other riders rear wheel hit johns front wheel and made him come up short and go over the bars. totally incidental and not intended form what i saw in the video

BlueZ440
05-04-2005, 10:17 PM
I'll post this here also..

This time out, Natalie's charge to the front wasn't so polite. He didn't take kindly to what happened back at the start of the race - where he later said that Suzuki's Jeremiah Jones unnecessarily nerfed him into the berm. A hard charging agitated John Natalie is every pros worst nightmare. Ironman was on the gas and taking names. He quickly picked off fellow Honda rider Joe Haavisto and set his sites on the the 55 of Gust. Meanwhile Jones took veteran Farr's lead - but only for a second. Farr would have none of that and slipped past the white Suzuki Z400 to take his lead sot right back

BlueZ440
05-04-2005, 10:18 PM
Natalie charged hard after the Suzuki's of Gust and Jones. Gust was first on Natalie's momentary-Suzuki-****-list. Natalie slipped to the inside of Gust on a hard right hand turn and ended up bumping him right off the track. Next was Jones. Natalie put a bump-pass on Jones by nudging him from behind. Jones ended up spinning out while Natalie sprinted away hot after Farr's lead. Jones had some trouble getting going again and didn't join the pack any sooner than the 16th spot. "Both the Suzuki guys rammed me off into the mud at the start. I got a little hot under the collar because of it as I was coming through after them. I admit I ran into both of them and gave them both a little push to get them out of my way. It was something I shouldn't have done. But I did it. If they're going to get rough, - it's going to have to be given right back. It's all a part of racing you race how you're raced with", said Natalie about his aggressive charge past the two Suzuki riders.

BlueZ440
05-04-2005, 10:18 PM
While on the podium, a slow moving and sore "Digger" Doug Gust had this to say about Natalie's bump passes. I think John thought we were running bumper cars out there. It kind of torqued me a little".


Ironman Natalie was given a "rough-riding-warning" from ATVA official "Smitty". No warnings were given to team Suzuki.

RemNS
05-05-2005, 09:42 PM
FUll Video and photos are up from Budds Creek!

www.remnsproductions.com
Amateur Report coming tomorrow!

I can't wait till Harlen releases to new stuff! Ya Gotta see it!

Sorry about the video Quality guys! Trying to keep the bandwidth down!

Ya shut me down for an hour last time I posted the videos!
(5,000 Downloads in 2 days from video post at the last race)
(Keep it coming though I Upgraded the account to handle the traffic)(Thanks!)

Also got online ordering up and running!

AND, also got another Canon20D just for Race Photos so Quality will be even better!

See Ya at RED BUD!

BRING ON THE DAMN CANADIANS!
(Just Kiddin) (Bring some Crown Reserve down with YA and we'll get it on!)

Rick Frisco

400grl
05-05-2005, 10:22 PM
I just watched that whole video.....seems like a Pro race to me.....competitive and some bumping......I don't know what all the fuss was about!!

And that crash just looked NASTY....I don't know how John popped back up from that so quick......I watched it a few times and it just made me cringe EVERY time......

MXRACER86
05-06-2005, 08:51 AM
Where is the full video????

p@iNn3ck
05-06-2005, 08:55 AM
Awesome videos Rick!! Thanks again!

Just watching that holeshot, I dont know how that many quads race so close together without knocking EVERYONE over....lol

400grl - u aint kiddin! That bounce makes my teeth hurt!

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05-06-2005, 09:36 AM
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