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MX300ex
04-29-2005, 03:06 PM
ive checked and found out that there are a good line of LT a arms for a 300ex

laegers--850
burgard-750

those r the only 1's ive checked on so far

Out_Sider
04-29-2005, 04:57 PM
or another form of 'LT' for a 300ex is to have +2 300ex arms w/ an upper relocator and some 400ex shocks

or you can have a setup like mine that is +2+1 300ex arms w/ a relocator and 14.75in shocks (i havent rode on my setup yet, still waiting for the relocator, but i'll fill you in with how it works)

MX300ex
04-29-2005, 05:20 PM
or u can have parts that r designed for ur quad on it insted of a 400ex

drifterx
05-01-2005, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by MX300ex
or u can have parts that r designed for ur quad on it insted of a 400ex

Ya, but the 400ex shocks (he's talking about ones specially built for his setup), with the relocator and wider 300ex a-arms is a very good setup i hear. I know Jeff at the quadshop always says its a good setup on here, and he knows his stuff!

bradley300
05-01-2005, 03:22 PM
you guys mean this set up?:devil: its much better than a 400ex front end setup on a 300ex, but i havent tried the laeger and burgaurd LT front ends

300exOH
05-02-2005, 06:58 AM
Yep. Jeff knows his stuff. My setup is awesome!:devil:

Butters
05-03-2005, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by bradley300
you guys mean this set up?:devil: its much better than a 400ex front end setup on a 300ex, but i havent tried the laeger and burgaurd LT front ends


thats pretty cool looking. i have never seen that setup before.

bradley300
05-03-2005, 11:01 PM
that particular set up is LSR plus 2 300ex a-arms, a 400ex relocater bracket and custom elka's.

MX300ex
05-06-2005, 01:48 PM
havin thing made for ur quad is much better....

bwamos
05-06-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by MX300ex
havin thing made for ur quad is much better....

That is "made" specifically for the 300ex. It allows you to install 400ex LENGTH front shocks setup for your weight, riding style, and machine bias.

There'a a LOT more wheel travel on his machine than a stock setup w/ stock length custom shocks loike I have (I ride woods on my 330 and only play on the MX track, I don't need his setup, but I bet it rides very well esp. in the corners).

Birddogg
05-08-2005, 10:27 PM
Just because something wasn't "made" for your specific quad doesn't mean it won't work. Everyone claims that they're stuff is better than the other guy's. Doesn't mean it is. More expensive, sure. Larger companies have a lot more overhead than some guy slinging some parts out of his garage. A shock mount is a simple way to bulk up the front of one of these quads. I built my own and it works great. Do what you want with your money. I work too hard for mine to throw it away.

300exOH
05-09-2005, 06:42 AM
:rolleyes: :huh

People just don't get it. The 400ex front end DOES NOT work correctly on the 300ex. It has been tested and PROVEN! Eeesh!:blah:

Treehunter
05-09-2005, 08:14 AM
So why does a 400 ex front not work? At least the a arms? I was thinking about doing that to 1 of my 300's just cause its cheap. What are the side effects?

bradley300
05-09-2005, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Treehunter
So why does a 400 ex front not work? At least the a arms? I was thinking about doing that to 1 of my 300's just cause its cheap. What are the side effects?

i have posted the answers to this question at least a million times by now, try a search in the steering/suspension forum and you should find a few good threads about it

bradley300
05-09-2005, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Birddogg
Just because something wasn't "made" for your specific quad doesn't mean it won't work. Everyone claims that they're stuff is better than the other guy's. Doesn't mean it is. More expensive, sure. Larger companies have a lot more overhead than some guy slinging some parts out of his garage. A shock mount is a simple way to bulk up the front of one of these quads. I built my own and it works great. Do what you want with your money. I work too hard for mine to throw it away.

your not throwing your money away by doing it right, your throwing your money away by going against what alot of well respected suspension guru's have said works and dosent. the shock mount is a great idea, but your blowing your money if your using 400ex a-arms with it

Treehunter
05-09-2005, 08:51 AM
So why does a 400 ex front not work? At least the a arms? I was thinking about doing that to 1 of my 300's just cause its cheap. What are the side effects?

300exOH
05-09-2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Treehunter
So why does a 400 ex front not work? At least the a arms? I was thinking about doing that to 1 of my 300's just cause its cheap. What are the side effects?

Nervous twitchy feeling at high speed and possible unpredictable handling. Also broken ball joints etc...

Used aftermarket a arms and works shocks for the 300ex aren't that hard to find or nor are they expensive. It can be done right on a budget but not quite as cheap as a 400ex front end.

Treehunter
05-09-2005, 09:37 AM
Thank you for the info. I have heard of some people doing that, But I never heard of geometry problems. Its only cheap if it works. You just saved me some money.

300exOH
05-09-2005, 09:50 AM
No problem. I'd hate to see any more people mislead into thinking the conversion works well or is worth the money. I went through it myself and found it wasn't a good setup. I have switched to a more proper setup on my 300ex and I've been very happy since. :devil:

4trax250x81
05-09-2005, 03:46 PM
I found these long travel a-arms. This is what the site says: "This NEW 2005 Long Travel MX Racing A-Arm Kit is offers more Real Travel thank ANY other +3 A-Arm Kit on the market today. It is designed for use with a Long Travel 16 1/2 Inch Zero Preload Shock and has up to 13 inches of REAL Travel when match with the correct shock. It is fully Camber, Caster adjustable. " Has anyone else found long travel a-arms for the 250x/300ex?? Oh yeah they are $699.95 and made by American Star The question I have is, with a 16 1/2 inch shock, is that a stock 450r, because i know thats the length of the 400ex.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/4trax250x81/longtravel.jpg

Out_Sider
05-09-2005, 06:53 PM
the ASR LT arms are quite awesome on a 300ex

red rider88
05-10-2005, 04:01 PM
i got 4ooex a arms on my 250x. works great. i use works suspension

Cody_300ex
05-10-2005, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by 4trax250x81
I found these long travel a-arms. This is what the site says: "This NEW 2005 Long Travel MX Racing A-Arm Kit is offers more Real Travel thank ANY other +3 A-Arm Kit on the market today. It is designed for use with a Long Travel 16 1/2 Inch Zero Preload Shock and has up to 13 inches of REAL Travel when match with the correct shock. It is fully Camber, Caster adjustable. " Has anyone else found long travel a-arms for the 250x/300ex?? Oh yeah they are $699.95 and made by American Star The question I have is, with a 16 1/2 inch shock, is that a stock 450r, because i know thats the length of the 400ex.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/4trax250x81/longtravel.jpg

I'd tell them you shove that 700 bucks up there *** and run this set up.

Birddogg
05-11-2005, 09:32 PM
Agree with Red rider. I haven't had any problems. I have a little over $700 in my quad altogether. Why would I want $700 dollar front suspension? The bike corners and lands better than stock. Enough said. If you're a serious racer, go out and get whatever makes you happy.

red rider88
05-12-2005, 01:56 PM
heres mine

300ex73
05-13-2005, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by red rider88
heres mine

What type of front end is that?

red rider88
05-13-2005, 01:21 PM
400 ex

300ex73
05-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by red rider88
400 ex

Nevermind, I thought it was actually some kind of a good front end setup.

red rider88
05-14-2005, 02:14 PM
what do u mean? i had someone make me a bracket for the 400ex shocks. it works great i have no problems i am 15. theres no bump steer.

Out_Sider
05-14-2005, 04:13 PM
300ex plus 2's and a shock relocator and 400ex shocks is still the best combo ;) most ppl who say theres no bumpsteer, have no idea what bumpsteer really is

300ex73
05-14-2005, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by red rider88
what do u mean? i had someone make me a bracket for the 400ex shocks. it works great i have no problems i am 15. theres no bump steer.

The fact is, that you're still using 400EX arms on a quad that doesn't have the same frame geometry as the 400EX. Therefore the suspension doesn't work in the same way as it would on a 400. My advice would be to save you money, and get a set of Burgard LT arms. And if you talk to Jeff, he could prolly help you find a good deal on them. I'm getting mine for a total cost of about $680. And you could prolly still use your 400EX shocks, as well as throw away that bracket.

red rider88
05-15-2005, 10:32 AM
y would i? i have no complaints about it. worked fine for ryan hetrick last year at high point when he got 4th i thnk

kyleschonert
06-26-2005, 08:01 PM
im thinkin of doing that set up, but with works shocks b/c i cant afford elkas. Ive got stock a-arms with stock 250R shocks and a relocator skit right now. If i were to get plus 2's for a 300ex, what shocks from which machine (400ex/250R) would i need to order. Should i order them from works and have them specifically valved for that setup, or would they have to custom make them? And would that make them more expensive? Sorry about all the ?'s but i need to know.

kyleschonert
07-08-2005, 11:37 PM
I take back that last reply. I bought some elkas for my 400 off of ebay the other day. They are compression adjustable, preload, and piggyback rezzies. They're used, but work great. I cant wait to get my a-arms in.