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robman
04-07-2005, 02:13 PM
What's honda doing for 06?I,m buying a new quad in june,at least some small changes would be cool.

400exredrider
04-07-2005, 02:21 PM
i dont think they are changing the 450 much, maybe some new control components and maybe a yellow color eww:o ;) but i dont see any major changes coming for it,, i wish they would beef up the motor a bit,, make it more agressive,,, but gotta keep it reliable... and thats what honda likes:)

robman
04-07-2005, 02:30 PM
I was thinking more travel in the rear,longer swingarm,linkage and the crf cam.That's not too much to ask.If some one knows somthing then spill the beans,no bs.

400exBro
04-07-2005, 03:23 PM
rob, just get the elka rear shock and link, my setup worked awsome at gopher dunes in the rough stuff... what i have done over the winter is a night and day difference, this 450r handles so much better and the pipe and jetting help it accelerate a lot faster out of the corner... My next plan is probably a higher comp piston, cam, and fcr 41 mm carb, and that should get her going... but i am very with the outcome of all the money and time i spent working on my 450r...

Mike545
04-07-2005, 03:55 PM
i heard that it will have a electric starter. from a good sorce., damn i just got a 05 in dec

TRXDresh
04-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Don't count on any major changes. ATV companies don't change anything if it aint broke. They are selling so well now, that they don't need to change anything. I work for a major Marine Engine company, and in a pleasure market like boats and ATV's, justification for change comes down to pennies per engine. When you sell so many units, those couple of cents turn into millions. Trust me, I want to see it as bad as everyone else, but in all probability, it isn't going to happen.

Mike545
04-08-2005, 01:19 PM
good, becase otherwise id feel jaded

ProConcept
04-08-2005, 09:03 PM
Then why do bikes get more and more cool **** added to them every year, and ATV's get squat.

chad502ex
04-08-2005, 09:11 PM
;)

Honda bought my 530R and plans on mass producing it to the public. 60hp off the showroom floor with optional fuel injection and turbo kit to boot. production turbo will add another 40hp and the closed loop fuel injection will adapt NOS easily and adjust a/f within a uSec. Of coarse, NOS is not a HONDA accessory

:D

Thump_It
04-08-2005, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by chad502ex
;)

Honda bought my 530R and plans on mass producing it to the public. 60hp off the showroom floor with optional fuel injection and turbo kit to boot. production turbo will add another 40hp and the closed loop fuel injection will adapt NOS easily and adjust a/f within a uSec. Of coarse, NOS is not a HONDA accessory

:D

Perfect.......I'm first in line to get one of them. If only that dream could come true.....:devil:

chad502ex
04-08-2005, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Thump_It
Perfect.......I'm first in line to get one of them. If only that dream could come true.....:devil:


yea for you and me :D

go ahead and slap me awake!

heh

Jersey450R
04-09-2005, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by chad502ex
;)

Honda bought my 530R and plans on mass producing it to the public. 60hp off the showroom floor with optional fuel injection and turbo kit to boot. production turbo will add another 40hp and the closed loop fuel injection will adapt NOS easily and adjust a/f within a uSec. Of coarse, NOS is not a HONDA accessory

:D

your not serious are you chad?

04-09-2005, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Jersey450R
your not serious are you chad? no..he's just kidding

chad502ex
04-09-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by MixMasterMike
no..he's just kidding

shhhh, i'm trying to get HONDA to notice me!!

LOL!

jacksongncc450
04-09-2005, 09:36 PM
electric start

awj8074
04-10-2005, 09:10 AM
To those saying Electric start its not going to happen.

Out_Sider
04-12-2005, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by awj8074
To those saying Electric start its not going to happen.

it better not happen.. or else i'll find myself buying a 04 or 05

hoser 400ex
04-12-2005, 02:42 PM
my buddy works at a dealership and said they got a sneak peak of 06's and they are having the hrc hop up kit already installed in all of them is what he told me..... so we'll see

EvilEwok
04-12-2005, 03:59 PM
That's a good idea to tell you the truth. Smart move honda...smart move....Touche trebeck!

04-22-2005, 07:10 PM
Try out the suzuki 450 in june and tell us how it is lol:p

2MuchChi450R
04-23-2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by hoser 400ex
my buddy works at a dealership and said they got a sneak peak of 06's and they are having the hrc hop up kit already installed in all of them is what he told me..... so we'll see

If they did that, it'd piss off a lot of current owners of the quad for the money they spent already, I think you're friend might be blowing smoke to get you to stop bugging him :D Anyway, I've hounded my rep for any info and he's as tight-lipped as the rest of the company, I've even asked him if they were starting to sponsor more and more pro riders, all I got was 2 mx pros and one gncc pro.

kwatts400
04-23-2005, 07:07 PM
Why would that p!ss anyone off, It's called updating the bike. Same difference if they put a 1-1/4 inch longer swingarm on the bike, which probably makes a huge difference. Thats the chance you take when you buy an 04/05 instead of waiting for the 06 to come out.

kwatts400
04-23-2005, 07:07 PM
Why would that p!ss anyone off, It's called updating the bike. Same difference if they put a 1-1/4 inch longer swingarm on the bike, which probably makes a huge difference. Thats the chance you take when you buy an 04/05 instead of waiting for the 06 to come out.

the Z Man
04-23-2005, 08:06 PM
06 is coming out with a 450X, it will have both electric and kick start, and will come in yellow or silver, they will also have the normal 450r as well.

awj8074
04-25-2005, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by the Z Man
06 is coming out with a 450X, it will have both electric and kick start, and will come in yellow or silver, they will also have the normal 450r as well. now that makes more sense just like the crf 250r and crf250x dirtbike the x is more of a trail bike and the r is a race ready bike.

the Z Man
04-25-2005, 05:37 PM
Thats the ticket there... watch and see, you heard it from the Z..

awj8074
04-25-2005, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by the Z Man
Thats the ticket there... watch and see, you heard it from the Z.. but theres also talk of a 650ex or 600ex based off the 400ex platform so i dont know if they would make a 450x.

Ridin' Jesse
04-25-2005, 06:35 PM
I really dont think they are gonna change anything in my opinion...lol

brink400
04-25-2005, 06:51 PM
It would be stupid for honda to change the 450r up. They are selling the crap out of them so theres no need to spend the cash to redesign anything. I plan on buying one when the 06 models come out and would be very disappointed if they had electric start. I went through a lot of trouble and money putting kick start on my yfz and dont really want to go through that again.

the Z Man
04-25-2005, 09:09 PM
If you go to the local dealer and look at the 450x dirt bike you will see it has both electric and kick start...

2MuchChi450R
04-25-2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by kwatts400
Why would that p!ss anyone off, It's called updating the bike. Same difference if they put a 1-1/4 inch longer swingarm on the bike, which probably makes a huge difference. Thats the chance you take when you buy an 04/05 instead of waiting for the 06 to come out.

Why fix something that isn't broken? I hope they make a 650 powered sport quad, I've been looking for a xr650r just for the motor to buy another 450 frame to stick the 650r motor in. I'd trade in my rincon for one of those!! I dunno what the truth is, but I sure as heck hope that they don't put an electric start on the 450r, my $.02. As far as an x quad, there's a 400, and the 450r has a headlight to begin with.

kwatts400
04-26-2005, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by 2MuchChi450R
Why fix something that isn't broken? I hope they make a 650 powered sport quad, I've been looking for a xr650r just for the motor to buy another 450 frame to stick the 650r motor in. I'd trade in my rincon for one of those!! I dunno what the truth is, but I sure as heck hope that they don't put an electric start on the 450r, my $.02. As far as an x quad, there's a 400, and the 450r has a headlight to begin with.

You'll definately need a longer swingarm for that bike!

35charlie
05-03-2005, 06:59 PM
Why wouldn't they offer an E-start? At least as an option or another model (450RX?) I personally know of a few people who would have one in the garage if they offered it. There's virtually no R&D cost since the CRF-X has it now. Besides, for every buyer that loves the kick start, there's another who bought blue for the e-start.

cals400ex
05-03-2005, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by 35charlie
Why wouldn't they offer an E-start? At least as an option or another model (450RX?) I personally know of a few people who would have one in the garage if they offered it. There's virtually no R&D cost since the CRF-X has it now. Besides, for every buyer that loves the kick start, there's another who bought blue for the e-start.


or they bought blue because it is a pretty quick racer out of the box

05-04-2005, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by cals400ex
or they bought blue because it is a pretty quick racer out of the box

or at least until it breaks down LOL :devil:

robman
05-05-2005, 09:41 AM
Wonder if they will change the motor mounts.

cals400ex
05-05-2005, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by XxHonda_RacerxX
or at least until it breaks down LOL :devil:


my buddies tend to do that quite a bit too. i would buy blue if that wasn't the case.

Dale512
05-05-2005, 11:08 AM
I dunno but everything seems to go opposite around here, theres about 4 YFZ around my ways, one of which being mine and none of us have had any problems of any type mine and 2 others are over a year old and the other is around 9 months old and we don't take that great care of them either. On the other hand theres about 6 or 7 450Rs around here and their nothing but problems it seems. Two with striped kickstart gears, one needed a new topend after about 2 months, one with a crank problem, and they all overheat constantly. I'm not sure what the deal is.

That is just my observations on the reliabilty of the two machines.

kssandduner
05-05-2005, 12:30 PM
and they all overheat constantly
I've never heard that one before.

bwamos
05-05-2005, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Dale512
and they all overheat constantly.

Tell them to put on bumpers w/ mudscreens. ;) Sounds like they are getting a lot of mud in their radiators. Or they bought aftemarket pipes and didn't rejet.. lol.

05-05-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Dale512
I dunno but everything seems to go opposite around here, theres about 4 YFZ around my ways, one of which being mine and none of us have had any problems of any type mine and 2 others are over a year old and the other is around 9 months old and we don't take that great care of them either. On the other hand theres about 6 or 7 450Rs around here and their nothing but problems it seems. Two with striped kickstart gears, one needed a new topend after about 2 months, one with a crank problem, and they all overheat constantly. I'm not sure what the deal is.

That is just my observations on the reliabilty of the two machines.


you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I've done several hare scrambles, and my temp light was NEVER on

and how the hell do you strip a kickstart gear? ya'll a bunch of fat hillbillys jumpin on the kickstarter? yur just another yfz owner jealous of us boys with the real 450.

cals400ex
05-05-2005, 03:39 PM
well i wasn't trying to say the 450r's are bullet proof. there isn't as many of those around here. there are more yfz's thus i see more problems with those. :D

robman
05-05-2005, 05:45 PM
time to open a battle thread because this crap has nothing to do with 06.If you weigh over 300 pounds get off the R please.:blah:

05-05-2005, 06:24 PM
[i]Originally posted by robman.If you weigh over 300 pounds get off the R please.:blah: [/B]

shut the hell up
this site is for atv related stuff
Not for idiots that want to critisize fat people
so if you got something against fat people keep it to yourself:mad:

Dale512
05-05-2005, 07:48 PM
Hey D23, I know when a quad is overheating, it's not rocket science, and if yours doesn't overheat then good for you, but you don't need to come on here telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about buddy.

Don't get it twisted I'm definately not jealous of the Honda 450R, if I want one I'll go buy one, it's that simple.

I really doubt it's mud causing them to overheat, they overheat even when we're on the dry ash dumps.

robman
05-05-2005, 08:03 PM
I'm not critisizing,the quad is designed for so much weight,it's a matter of safety.You could get hurt.Don't hate me for caring:(

trxalot
05-16-2005, 03:54 AM
I just bought a 450r in Feb. Ive always been a Yamaha guy but at the same time not someone who wants to be like everybody else. I had to choose between the honda and Yamaha. It wasnt easy but I chose the Honda. For one, there must be 90% of quads around here that are yammies. Not a problem but I guess Im just tired of the ole blue. I bought an 05 trx 450R regardless of being slower than a stock yfz and not having electric start. Second, from seeing the first 04 trx i was in love with the styling and when i saw the 05 in black I had to have it. The yfz looks like an aardvark that ate a tainted smurfberry. Anyway if Honda comes out with e-start for 06 I will be pissed. I dont care about the color options as I am happy with black, but e-start and possibly HRC kit as possible model changes would get me and alot of others aggravated. If so we all may have to raise some hell to at least get these upgrades at a reasonable cost, Having shelled out 6 grand plus for a quad without elecric start and being a little slower stock-stock than the YFZ. Just my opinion.

05-16-2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Dale512
dry ash dumps.

lol
he said dry ash dumps

rodenberg35
05-16-2005, 10:54 AM
puff puff give

Jonas
05-16-2005, 10:58 AM
To all of you xr650r lovers, have you ridden a crf450. About the same amount of power and alot less weight. The xr650r's have not been such good sellers at my shop. Do you really want a quad that has the same amount of power as the trx450r and alot more weight???? They would sell alot at first then people would figure out that the trx450r is better. Does anyone here want to bet that they will have electric start on the trx450 for '06 because I am betting they will not. Honda didn't just build this quad overnight. They put alot of time and thought into it. I would have to doubt that they will just say "oops, we forgot to put girl start on our race quad". I can understand that there are some people out there that can't kick a bike but they probably shouldn't be riding such a quad. For me, kicking over a quad or motorcycle just feels how a bike should feel. The trx450r is almost too easy to kick over. In my opinion, make some more important upgrades to the quad (suspension, motor, etc.) if need be. I love my trx450r stock.

Ramsus
05-16-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Marshmello
shut the hell up
this site is for atv related stuff
Not for idiots that want to critisize fat people
so if you got something against fat people keep it to yourself:mad:

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