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Quad18star
04-01-2005, 11:37 AM
Well I was just watching CNN News , and they have reports from other news sources , that the Pope died . CNN hasn't comfirmed it yet though . His health hasn't been the greatest over the last while ... so I think the reports are true .

R.I.P Pope John Paul .

04-01-2005, 11:50 AM
http://www.cnn.com/

> BREAKING NEWS AP: The Vatican denies reports in Italian media that Pope John Paul II has died.

Derag2
04-01-2005, 11:54 AM
He hasn't died yet watch Fox news, But they said its just a matter of time.

nat3060
04-01-2005, 12:09 PM
Right now they are not going to announce his offical death until the proper rituals have been performed and etc. The highest ranking cardinal has to come in and do some rituals which is:

Every pope has the equivalent of a chief of staff, called the camerlengo. When a pope dies, the camerlengo must first certify that he is indeed dead.

The ritual tradition is to strike him on the forehead with a silver hammer, calling his baptismal name three times. An alternative is to place a cloth over his mouth. If he does not respond, the camerlengo declares him dead, authorizes a death certificate and then seals the papal living and working apartments.

Later, the silver hammer will be used to scratch and break the papal ring and seal, so no documents can be forged in his name.

I wouldnt be suprised if he has passed away as much as and hour ago and we dont hear the offical news until tonite. The kind of infection he had was not good and it rips thru your body once its unchecked :(

Honda4trax250x
04-01-2005, 12:24 PM
He died. A kid in my school got a phone call from his dad in Italy.

04-01-2005, 12:36 PM
R.I.P. JP2

Juggalo
04-01-2005, 01:10 PM
as good as a man as the pope was and as bad as this sounds i think its good he died. well not good but you know what i mean..like he was in pain all the time and he barley knew what he was doing anymore. i guess i shouldnt say its good he died i guess what i should say is he is at peace now. R.I.P john paul II

Syrus
04-01-2005, 01:48 PM
I heard on the news last night he was doing alright, and was at some "Secret" Hostpital treating whatever was wrong with him. However i do belive he died, since they wont annouce it publicly untill the hes 6 feet under so they dont create a big hype and have people around the world join his funeral or whatever they do to him.

Time will tell :)

Its not big news to me, never knew him, i dont even know what his job in the world was, but apparently he was somethin special, sorry if i offend anyone. It just has nothing to do with my country, and all i know is that he was old, dying, and had something to do with church :ermm:

Cody_300ex
04-01-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Juggalo
as good as a man as the pope was and as bad as this sounds i think its good he died. well not good but you know what i mean..like he was in pain all the time and he barley knew what he was doing anymore. i guess i shouldnt say its good he died i guess what i should say is he is at peace now. R.I.P john paul II

He's happy now, not in pain and suffering is what you mean. Yea I heard about it too, Hes one tough SOB, been shot, Parkinson's diesease, Feeding tube in him, few others. RIP JP:(

Syrus
04-01-2005, 01:56 PM
VATICAN CITY (CNN) -- Pope John Paul II's breathing is becoming shallow and several of his major organs -- including his kidneys and heart -- are growing weaker, the Vatican said Friday.

"The general conditions and cardio-respiratory conditions of the Holy Father have further worsened. A gradual worsening arterial hypotension has been noted, and breathing has become shallow," the Vatican press office said.

"The clinical picture indicates cardio-circulatory and renal insufficiency. The biological parameters are notably compromised. The Holy Father, with visible participation, is joining the continual prayers of those assisting him."

The Vatican has denied reports in the Italian media that the pope had died.

Thousands of people gathered in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican Friday night for the saying of the rosary. High above the square, lights burned in the papal apartments.

A leading American prelate, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, archbishop of Washington, said, "...If my information is correct, is that the Holy Father is sinking."

"We'll pray that the Lord -- who must love this man very much, because this man loves him very much -- that the Lord will take him peacefully to himself, if that's his will right now," McCarrick said.

The pope received visitors Friday, including the Vatican's secretary of state and several cardinals. Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said the pope celebrated a Mass and mediated on the ritual of the Stations of the Cross.
Worldwide prayers

At 7 p.m. local time Friday, a Mass was being held in honor of the pontiff at St. John Lateran Church, celebrated by Camillo Ruini, vicar of Rome.

"In this moment, he is more than ever our pope -- the vicar of Christ --- who livens us with his passion," Ruini said.

At the Mass Friday night, Ruini said the pope was "facing the most difficult test of his long and extraordinary life. He is living with that incredible serenity and he has abandoned himself to the hands of Christ, with whom he has always lived, worked, suffered and had joy."

Italians, Catholics and the faithful the world over have been asked to intensify their prayers for the Holy Father in light of his declining health. (Full story)

In another development, the papal press office issued a list of 17 new papal appointments, including bishops and archbishops, and a list of six archbishops who resigned.

The appointments and the resignations were approved previously by the pope, it said.

The announcements may be an attempt by the Vatican press office to indicate that the business of the Vatican continues. And if the list were to be issued, it would have to be issued now, ahead of a papal death.
Septic shock

Earlier, Navarro-Valls said in a written statement that the pope had suffered cardiocirculatory collapse and septic shock Thursday evening.

According to a Web site of the National Institutes of Health, septic shock is "a serious, abnormal condition that occurs when an overwhelming infection leads to low blood pressure and low blood flow.

"Vital organs, such as the brain, heart, kidneys, and liver may not function properly or may fail. Decreased urine output from kidney failure may be one symptom."

Italian police began closing the streets leading to the Vatican early Friday on expectations that due to the pontiff's grave condition, more pilgrims would come to the area.

Navarro-Valls said the pope was being treated in the Vatican, because it was his desire to remain in his residence and not return to the hospital.

The pope was "being assisted by his personal doctor, Renato Buzzonetti, as well as two intensive care specialists, a cardiologist and an ear, nose and throat specialist, as well as two nurses," the statement said.

On Thursday night, as his health deteriorated, the pontiff received the Catholic Church's sacrament Anointing of the Sick, formerly known as Last Rites or Extreme Unction -- a ritual of healing, a Vatican source told CNN.

The sacrament is given to patients who are seriously ill in addition to those who are near death. The pope also received the sacrament in 1981, when he was wounded by a would-be assassin.

The news of the pope's worsening condition came two days after the Vatican revealed that he had a feeding tube inserted through his nose to provide more nutrition, as he struggled to recover from a tracheotomy five weeks ago.

The 84-year-old pope suffers from a number of chronic illnesses, including crippling hip and knee ailments and Parkinson's disease, a progressive neurological disorder that can make breathing and swallowing difficult.

jonc623
04-01-2005, 02:47 PM
he is still kickin so says our news here at about 5pm but failing fast

44oEX
04-01-2005, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Juggalo
as good as a man as the pope was and as bad as this sounds i think its good he died. well not good but you know what i mean..like he was in pain all the time and he barley knew what he was doing anymore. i guess i shouldnt say its good he died i guess what i should say is he is at peace now. R.I.P john paul II

well know your going to hell :devil: just kindding I know what you mean and agree 100%

RIP JP2

04-01-2005, 04:04 PM
How long has he been Pope? I know the average time popes are in office before they die is real low, because a)theyre old by the time theyre appointed pope, and b)they have work long hours 7 days a week, so the stress level is extremely high.

And, yea hes dead....April fools!!

Quad18star
04-01-2005, 04:15 PM
He's been Pope for 26 years .... he's 84 years old now . He's lived a long life . He'll be recognized and is recognized as being a " Peoples Pope" ... he's travelled more than any other Pope in recent history and has had a keen interest in the young people . He'll be missed by the 1.1 billion Christians around the world when he passes on .

bulkdriverlp
04-01-2005, 04:18 PM
hes not dead yet:eek2: :eek2:

Quad18star
04-01-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Syrus
I heard on the news last night he was doing alright, and was at some "Secret" Hostpital treating whatever was wrong with him. However i do belive he died, since they wont annouce it publicly untill the hes 6 feet under so they dont create a big hype and have people around the world join his funeral or whatever they do to him.

Time will tell :)

Its not big news to me, never knew him, i dont even know what his job in the world was, but apparently he was somethin special, sorry if i offend anyone. It just has nothing to do with my country, and all i know is that he was old, dying, and had something to do with church :ermm:

He is the leader of all Catholics around the world .... all 1.1 billion of us/them . It doesn't really matter if you are from the USA , Canada , Italy , Russia , etc .

As of 6:15 , the news reports were saying he is still clinging to life ... but it's getting worse by the minute . When he passes away , smoke will rise from a chimney and bells will ring across the Vitican City to let people know that he passed away . Also 2 guards will close a set of brass doors , where the Pope greets awaiting crowds below . It will be pretty emotional for many , since a lot of people have grown up only knowing this Pope . If you are under the age of about 36 , you will most likely only have known this Pope . He's been a strong man .... survived illnesses , surgeries and even an attempted assassination .

baker250r
04-01-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Quad18star
He'll be missed by the 1.1 billion Christians around the world when he passes on .


catholics that is...

Syrus
04-01-2005, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Quad18star
He is the leader of all Catholics around the world .... all 1.1 billion of us/them . It doesn't really matter if you are from the USA , Canada , Italy , Russia , etc .

As of 6:15 , the news reports were saying he is still clinging to life ... but it's getting worse by the minute . When he passes away , smoke will rise from a chimney and bells will ring across the Vitican City to let people know that he passed away . Also 2 guards will close a set of brass doors , where the Pope greets awaiting crowds below . It will be pretty emotional for many , since a lot of people have grown up only knowing this Pope . If you are under the age of about 36 , you will most likely only have known this Pope . He's been a strong man .... survived illnesses , surgeries and even an attempted assassination .

kk, i understand now. Ive just never been chruch guy, and never fallowed the stuff, dont understand it, sounds kinda fishy to me. But i guess everyone has to belive in something :)

THanks for filling me in Quadstar.

Quad18star
04-01-2005, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Syrus
kk, i understand now. Ive just never been chruch guy, and never fallowed the stuff, dont understand it, sounds kinda fishy to me. But i guess everyone has to belive in something :)

THanks for filling me in Quadstar.

No Problem .:)

Hondadudeehhhh
04-01-2005, 04:57 PM
how long do they wait before they elect a new pope?

baker250r
04-01-2005, 04:58 PM
15 to 20 days after the pope bites the big one

HtFoxChick
04-01-2005, 05:19 PM
The TV said that when the Pope dies, they tap his forehead with a silver hammer to make death official. :huh Must be some tradition they came up with.

WEEZIL
04-01-2005, 05:41 PM
NO NO NO EVERYONE. THE POPE ISN'T DEAD
HE IS PLAYING AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE ON ALL OF US! :scary:

Golden Joker
04-01-2005, 05:47 PM
Well when I was in study hall today, I got in trouble and had to go to the backroom and the radio was on and it was on a Tom something channel and it was talking about the Pope and said he was still alive.

yellow400ex05
04-01-2005, 05:58 PM
Anyone ever see euro trip? they had the funny thing with the pope and stuff.


RIP JP #2

WE will miss you!

baker250r
04-01-2005, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Yellow250ex04
Anyone ever see euro trip? they had the funny thing with the pope and stuff.

yea, thats why i know a little about the pope... otheriwse... i dont know chit.

04-01-2005, 06:13 PM
1.1 Billion Christians, not necessarily Catholics in the world, but I could be wrong.

If you havent, go out and read the book Angels and Demons!!! Its by the same author as the DaVinci Code, only its an even better book, and it fully explains what will occur when the pope passes.

All of the cardinals will be locked in a big room for days on end and are not allowed out until they decide on a new pope. The voe over and over and over again until they decide.

Screamin440
04-01-2005, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Atkins450
1.1 Billion Christians, not necessarily Catholics in the world, but I could be wrong.

If you havent, go out and read the book Angels and Demons!!! Its by the same author as the DaVinci Code, only its an even better book, and it fully explains what will occur when the pope passes.

All of the cardinals will be locked in a big room for days on end and are not allowed out until they decide on a new pope. The voe over and over and over again until they decide.

Very good book but many of his points and claimed facts are unfounded and unsupportable.

04-01-2005, 07:11 PM
While reading his book, I looked into ALOT of the claims in the book and they all came back as truths. What did you find in the book that was false?

srfootball50
04-02-2005, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by baker250r
yea, thats why i know a little about the pope... otheriwse... i dont know chit.

HAHA, me too. Thats how I knew the thing about the bell and the smoke;) .

Mxjunkie
04-02-2005, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by WEEZIL
NO NO NO EVERYONE. THE POPE ISN'T DEAD
HE IS PLAYING AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE ON ALL OF US! :scary:

He just died today :( I guess the april fools actually turned out true for him eh :o

Fordtrucker17
04-02-2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
He just died today :( I guess the april fools actually turned out true for him eh :o

josh ur an ******* R.I.P POPE

yellow400ex05
04-02-2005, 02:03 PM
Pope John Paul #2 has officially died at 9:37pm in Rome. Its on CNN now. The bells are ringing.
:(

RIP

chucked
04-02-2005, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Yellow250ex04
Pope John Paul #2 has officially died at 9:37pm in Rome. Its on CNN now. The bells are ringing.
:(

RIP

2:37 p.m. EST

Punk'd
04-02-2005, 03:29 PM
RIP:(

Quad18star
04-02-2005, 03:55 PM
R.I.P John Paul II

I-7
04-02-2005, 07:46 PM
His last words were Amen :eek2: :eek2: