Walsh frame question

[CannondaleRider]

I'm just kind of "building" a CRF. Just putting parts together on my computer, just to see how much it would cost, because i'm bored.

Anyways, Walsh says the Walsh CRF450 frame is a 250R geometry.

So if I was to ever build one(someday man, someday) would I buy 250R a-arms, swingarm, steering stem, etc. etc.

I would think so, but i'd figure id ask:confused:

[TheFontMaster]

Thats right 250r geomety=250r parts.

Good luck with it if you ever build one.

[CannondaleRider]

I thought so. Just figured i'd clarify


Thanks:D

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by TheFontMaster
Thats right 250r geomety=250r parts.

Good luck with it if you ever build one.


no no no, walsh use's there own geometry just like roll and laeger does..you will not be able to use 250r a arms or swingarms on a walsh crf chassis.
walsh chassis do use all 250r parts OTHER then chassis parts...ie.brakes, plastic, seat, axle, carrier, etc....

but 250r geometry doesn NOT = 250R parts

[CannondaleRider]

What do you use then?

[QuadRacer041]

you have to use a complete walsh chassis, frame, sub frame, swingarm and a arms.

this is my crf

[rollie]

i have an idea....sell your moto(to me) and make a CRF quad:D


BTW walsh stuff is awsome....just gotta wait a while

[WOracing]

Originally posted by QuadRacer041
you have to use a complete walsh chassis, frame, sub frame, swingarm and a arms.

this is my crf

i cant stop looking at your quad...hypothetically if you were to sell it how much you you sell it for:devil:

[QuadRacer041]

just to break even i would have to get around $15-16k

[JR3]

How long did it take to build that.

[QuadRacer041]

once i had all the parts its just like building any other quad, went together in lesss then a week but it took 5 months just waiting for the chassis.

[H-Bomb09]

What about on the K&K website, there CRF quad has the LSR chssis with gibson parts, so are you sure its not just walsh that you have to use all the same parts for? maybe K&K just fabricated it for the gibson parts to fit.

[deathman53]

I'm told that most of the aftermarket frames use 250r front end components, 88/89 swingarms, 250r radiators and 250r rear ends. I have a crf450r quad(lsr frame) and it uses 250r parts. It has a roll long travel 250r front end, roll 250r steering stem and 250r rear end.

[QuadRacer041]

yes you guys are correct, im not saying that aftermarket frames dont use 250r parts, they do.
im saying 250r parts does not always mean 250r geometry.
some aftermarket frame companies such as walsh laeger and roll design use there own geometry, in these cases you have to use a arms that are also made for that aftermarket geometry frame.
example....aftermarket frames that use +4 a arms are not 250r geometry.you wouldnt put a +4 a arm on a lsr chassis, it would be too wide, you would put a +4 a arms on a narrow front end frame like the walsh laeger and roll.on a stock geometry frame(non narrow front end) like lsr and houser youd use a +3 arms.
also the rear ends on aftermarket geo frames is differnt, they use a cr500,crf450 or no link rear, in this case you couldnt use a 250r shock.

[416exmx]

Is the Walsh wait still 5 months for a complete cahssis? I may buy one if I can get one pretty fast.

[SRH]

you guys should check out the race co guys stuff his is all one off like roll and walsh, its a really nice quad too i think there site is www.race-co.com i know hes building yfz and 450r a arms and parts right now but he has pics of his chassis up

[NTPRacing#19]

walsh is not doing frames or subframes right now till the florida shop is up and running. the jigs are down there, they are just doing a arms and swingers and small stuff.

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by 416exmx
Is the Walsh wait still 5 months for a complete cahssis? I may buy one if I can get one pretty fast.


haha dont hold your breath, i dont think there even taking orders for chassis right now until they have moved down to florida

[CannondaleRider]

So when you get a frame from Walsh. Would you end up getting a almost rolling chassis(minus spindles, hubs, axle, etc.)

When you go to there site. They don't list there A-arms or swingarms for the "CRF Frame" its either 400EX, 450R, YFZ, 250R, Cannondale, etc. etc.

So apparently you have to call them:confused:

P.S. I have no clue why i'm asking, I have a hard time getting my Cannondale together, let alone building a hybrid.:mad:

[SRH]

i think you get the bare chassis for 3 grand then add there aa arms and what not

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by CannondaleRider
So when you get a frame from Walsh. Would you end up getting a almost rolling chassis(minus spindles, hubs, axle, etc.)

When you go to there site. They don't list there A-arms or swingarms for the "CRF Frame" its either 400EX, 450R, YFZ, 250R, Cannondale, etc. etc.

So apparently you have to call them:confused:

P.S. I have no clue why i'm asking, I have a hard time getting my Cannondale together, let alone building a hybrid.:mad:


yes you are correct, i wouldnt order a $6k chassis without talking to them anyway, lol

ps, in my opinion its much easier to work ona hybrid then a dale.