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buttskinbmx2087
03-15-2005, 06:28 PM
i gota ? what do u think will win eihter in a 1/4 mile or street race between a 2002 35th edition chevy camaro with flowmaster exhaust or a 2002 ford mustang gt with slp exhaust .....

nat3060
03-15-2005, 06:29 PM
the maro a v8 also?

buttskinbmx2087
03-15-2005, 06:31 PM
yeah z28

FoxRacing81
03-15-2005, 06:32 PM
I'm gonna go with the Maro.

bansheeguy77
03-15-2005, 06:42 PM
thats not even a question. camaros are always faster than mustangs. the z will smoke it by around a half a second or so. the 01-to 94 mustangs were pure crap. they say they make like 300 hp but in reality they are pushing 250 if that. the 02 and up's actually have the true horsepower numbers stated. but still z's are faster.

Jon98
03-15-2005, 06:49 PM
of course, there are plenty of variables. but on paper, the z28 is putting out a very decent amount more horsepower and torque. not to mention if the z28's an auto, its still real fast. the gt autos if i recall, just plain suck... like near half second differences in 1/4 time from thier 5 speed counterparts.

but yea, z28 on paper

Juggalo
03-15-2005, 06:55 PM
im a mustang man thru and thru.....


that being said...camaro will win. that LS1 aint no joke. their very nice motors. the 4.6 SOHC in the mustang isnt too bad but it doesnt make the kind of power hat LS1 makes.

underpowered
03-15-2005, 07:08 PM
the camaro hands down.:macho

LuckyOxygen
03-15-2005, 07:09 PM
The chevy will stomp that stang. Line it up to a cobra, and the chevy will by embarassed.

raptorrider00
03-15-2005, 07:42 PM
i love the sight of a stupid mustangs kids after there beat maro all the way

SRH
03-15-2005, 08:41 PM
what is it lately everyone has either a camaro or a mustang...

Chef
03-15-2005, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by raptorrider00
i love the sight of a stupid mustangs kids after there beat maro all the way

I love the sight of stupid raptor kids....period.:chinese:

Juggalo
03-15-2005, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Chef
I love the sight of stupid raptor kids....period.:chinese:


ohhhhhh burn! but true lol

SixthFloorFreak
03-15-2005, 11:36 PM
the damn LS1 is a monster...so i predict the Camaro will win

a friend has a 35th anniv. car with a few special parts...cam, stall, headers, etc. and he just put down an 11.91 about a week ago. that car is a beast

user101
03-16-2005, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Chef
I love the sight of stupid raptor kids....period.:chinese:

hahahahahahahaha...

Matt37
03-16-2005, 03:36 PM
Man i can see another Chevy vs. Ford battle brewing up here. So ill get it started. :D To me Ford has to make more power to the Mustang, i mean they look great and all but if they seriously want to compete with the vette like alot of people say they want to then they have to grow some ball$ and put a bigger engine in that i mean the new ones are decent looking but doesnt have enough engine. Right now all the Stang is competing against is like the firebird.

TGW_400ex
03-16-2005, 03:48 PM
Ford has nothing on the new vette;)

blackraptor16
03-16-2005, 04:00 PM
tell my fiance (briantrx) to get his camaro up and running and get me some exhaust for my mustang and we'll race!!

redlineranger
03-16-2005, 04:02 PM
my money is on the camaro... all year models.... i love the yenko's and all that nice stuff..... theres a guy down the rode from me that has a camaro that no mustang in this town will touch..... 1968 camaro ss with the 454:devil:

Matt37
03-16-2005, 04:07 PM
my money is on the camaro... all year models.... i love the yenko's and all that nice stuff..... theres a guy down the rode from me that has a camaro that no mustang in this town will touch..... 1968 camaro ss with the 454


I absolutely LOVE Yenkos i wish i could get one, but my wallet doesnt go quit that deep :eek2: Ill just stick with my Judge.

fasterblaster09
03-16-2005, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Matt37
I absolutely LOVE Yenkos i wish i could get one, but my wallet doesnt go quit that deep :eek2: Ill just stick with my Judge.

what makes Yenkos??..the first time i saw one was on 2 fast 2 furious lol,and i loved it,i've tried to look research on it but never found anything..any information on it would be great.

Matt37
03-16-2005, 04:26 PM
what makes Yenkos??..the first time i saw one was on 2 fast 2 furious lol,and i loved it,i've tried to look research on it but never found anything..any information on it would be great.


A man named Don Yenko was the major performace dealer in the mid to late 60's. He did many engine upgrades and sorts of things like that. He got very popular and wanted to make a special edition camaro, he knew that the demand for them would be heavy and he would not be able to build the special engine for the amount of cars demanded by the public, due to the amount of labor that went into it. So when he realized how popular they were going to be he decided to convince Chevy to make them a COPO (Central Office Production Order) to give him alittle help in building them. As Chevy sent Yenko the cars he then sent out all the Yenkos for the special stripping and of course the headrest decal (sYc) that is so famous. Records show that there were 198 Yenkos built in 69. Probably the reason why today it is one of the most valuable muscle cars out there.

Hope that helped alittle :D

SadisticShee
03-16-2005, 04:29 PM
Well come on that ain't a fair race a Z28 vs a stock GT. WHy not compare a regular camaro to a GT? A z28 is better compared to something like a Cobra Mustang. Anyway I hate Chevy, and Z's and SS's don't touch my car so i don't care......

JForestZ34
03-16-2005, 04:59 PM
I like both cars. I was reading what he said some of the things on the camaro where. Headers, cam and stuff like that. That camaro could probably do the 1/4 mile in that 11.9

I had a 74 Trans Am with the 455 Super Duty. Had a full race cam, roller rockers ported and polished heads, Dual exhaust, and all the good stuff. That all ran through a 4 speed trans. Well the best time I had was 12.1. I've tried every tire I could except for a full drag slick, and got nothing but tire smoke. Mustangs are fast too but I think against a camaro with a LS1 it would be a very tough race to win. If you had the same amount of money to spend on both cars you could make the stang faster in the long run. They are real cheap to make super fast.


James

redlineranger
03-16-2005, 05:32 PM
i dont have any prolem with a mustang..... if i had anything mustang id want it to be late 60's early 70's model..... but if i could get a hold of a yenko:p ..... id be the happiest person on earth...... cost to dang much tho and there hard to find:scary:

raptorrider00
03-16-2005, 06:00 PM
why dose evry one her have to be @$$ hole about stuff the agree with me and the only reason i said that is i am hardcore chevy kid and the mustang ratio in my town is like 1-3 cars is a crappy mustang

SadisticShee
03-16-2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by raptorrider00
why dose evry one her have to be @$$ hole about stuff the agree with me and the only reason i said that is i am hardcore chevy kid and the mustang ratio in my town is like 1-3 cars is a crappy mustang
Yea but see I don't own a "mustang", I own a SVT Cobra. Whats the ratio on those in yer town........

03-16-2005, 06:38 PM
This is like 450r vs. YFZ....

watts16
03-16-2005, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by SadisticShee
Yea but see I don't own a "mustang", I own a SVT Cobra. Whats the ratio on those in yer town........

he got ya there tony:devil:

raptorrider00
03-16-2005, 06:48 PM
about one n 3 are cobra wich i do like my cuzin plans on Buyin one

Matt37
03-16-2005, 06:52 PM
Yea but see I don't own a "mustang", I own a SVT Cobra. Whats the ratio on those in yer town........

Yea SVT Cobras arent anything special. I mean they are really nice cars but i wouldnt call them "rare". There are about 4 of them outside the local high school every morning. They are still pretty nice cars, iam not trying to say they are junk i just wouldnt call them rare. Still not in the ball park of the new zo6 :D

trick450r
03-16-2005, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by SadisticShee
Well come on that ain't a fair race a Z28 vs a stock GT. WHy not compare a regular camaro to a GT? A z28 is better compared to something like a Cobra Mustang. Anyway I hate Chevy, and Z's and SS's don't touch my car so i don't care......

do us all a favor and shut the **** up about your stupid ****ing mustang for two ****ing minutes okay?

JForestZ34
03-16-2005, 07:38 PM
Well how many Saleen mustangs do you see around. For that matter how many leinghfelter(sp?) corvette's do you see on the road. I think those are pretty rare..



James

Matt37
03-16-2005, 07:40 PM
Well how many Saleen mustangs do you see around. For that matter how many leinghfelter(sp?) corvette's do you see on the road. I think those are pretty rare..

Yea they are rare, the thing i dont get about saleen's is what engine mods are on a saleen?? I saw one at a dealership once and everything looked the same besides for some fender mods. Looks like the just stuck a fender kit on and put a saleen sticker on it. But i dunno that is just what it looked like? What mods are done to the engine of a saleen to bump it up in price like it is?

JForestZ34
03-16-2005, 07:49 PM
I'm no expert but I know it has a supercharger on it, with some other engine work. It also has a special suspension package ( I think) . With some other different kind of body styling and stuff like that. I'm not sure though.


James

National#6
03-16-2005, 08:40 PM
my money is on the camaro... all year models.... i love the yenko's and all that nice stuff..... theres a guy down the rode from me that has a camaro that no mustang in this town will touch..... 1968 camaro ss with the 454

It wouldn't beat a mustang GT 500

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by LuckyOxygen
The chevy will stomp that stang. Line it up to a cobra, and the chevy will by embarassed.


yes the regular Z28 would get beat...however line up the 98 camaro SS (which is the highest HP produced year of the SS) to the cobra and once again the cobra will get beat...camaro will always own mustang....

Chef
03-16-2005, 08:44 PM
The rumored Shelby Mustang Cobra of '07 should have something for the vette...something to the tune of 550 hp out of a blown 5.4. I.E. Ford GT power.

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by SadisticShee
Well come on that ain't a fair race a Z28 vs a stock GT. WHy not compare a regular camaro to a GT? A z28 is better compared to something like a Cobra Mustang. Anyway I hate Chevy, and Z's and SS's don't touch my car so i don't care......




lsince you have a supercharged stand....line up to somethin its own size like say a supercharged Z28...get raped again...a supercharged SS would make u even a waste of its time....theres this kid i kno who has a Z28 thats supercharged with an intercooler and all the bolt on googies...yah nice 1/4 time slip of 11.1 seconds...thats not the SS either...

taw
03-16-2005, 08:48 PM
What about the new GTO, they do look like a suped up grand prix but those things got 400 hp lol. Car and driver said as fast as they could get it was like 167 i do believe. To me thats quite impressive.

I love both Ford and GM but Ford has finally outdone chevy with the introduction of the GT. based on the GT40 scheme from back in the day. didnt the old gt40s have 302s in them?

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Matt37
Yea they are rare, the thing i dont get about saleen's is what engine mods are on a saleen?? I saw one at a dealership once and everything looked the same besides for some fender mods. Looks like the just stuck a fender kit on and put a saleen sticker on it. But i dunno that is just what it looked like? What mods are done to the engine of a saleen to bump it up in price like it is?


the saleen mustang is a 4.6 L supercharged engine...

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 08:54 PM
yes early in 07' ford prolly will finally have come competition for the Vette Z06...however not for long cause Chevy once again is changing the Vette's engine to give it even more HP...im not Bsing either....we work for a Chevy dealership...Ford will still be 2nd in line

Chef
03-16-2005, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by LT250Racer609
theres this kid i kno who has a Z28 thats supercharged with an intercooler and all the bolt on googies...yah nice 1/4 time slip of 11.1 seconds...thats not the SS either...

I know of one Mach...with stock internals, just full exhaust from the heads back, intake, and interior lightening items that went like 11.4...with a stock motor! Also, a mach with stock internals, and a Procharger at like 15 psi (Which is a bit, not a ton, but a bit) thats been 10.960...and I'm pretty sure theres less money in that car than the Z28 of your buddies.

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 08:59 PM
15 PSI is alot for a supercharger...he deff. has some pully mods on that one....regular superchargers only put out 6-9 PSI without the high performance pullys....

Chef
03-16-2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by LT250Racer609
15 PSI is alot for a supercharger...he deff. has some pully mods on that one....regular superchargers only put out 6-9 PSI without the high performance pullys....

Its obviously got more pulley than it came with...my point was there are alot of cars running more than 15 psi. There is a mach on the same site with 18 PSI and Methanol Injection. :chinese:

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 09:12 PM
yes but what im just sayin is its the supercharger and pulleys that came with it that this kid has on his Z28...hes only pushin 9 PSI and hes running a 11.1 1/4 with an inter cooler....no doubt if hes running 15-18 PSI off high performance pulleys is he gonna hit mid 10's

TCracin440ex
03-16-2005, 09:12 PM
i just wanted to share a drag race story of mine...

a buddy of mine has a 01 ls1 camaro z28 with exhaust cutouts, et streets, and drag lite wheels, 4.10 gears, and a few other things i dont know about the internals of the motor is all stock i think he has an intake and thats it..no headers or nothin...well 1 night he raced a 5.0 stroker mustang 89 model with a 200 shot of nos with et streets traction bars and all that...the first time they raced dude sprayed thru the entire 1/8th...and beat my buddys camaro by like half a car length...well they got back to the area where we were all parked and my buddy in the camaro got out and was a tru sport and said well you beat me...now lets race motor for motor....the guy in the stang agreed to take the bottle out...he took the bottle out and retimed his car...they lined them up again the mustang lost by 3 car lengths....

im a big *** chevy fan...the camaro is a better car all arround...and those that compare apples to oranges...dont try to compare a ls1 camaro to a supercharged mustang or a svt cobra....cuz you throw a supercharger on the camaro and the camaro is walking all over the mustang or the svt...

and stock for stock the z06 corvette vs the svt cobra 4.6 dohc the corvette beats the svt in all aspects...

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 09:15 PM
^^^^^^ smart boy....you know your **** dont you:blah:

crday98
03-16-2005, 09:17 PM
i can tell you from personal experience that the mustang will lose badly and by more than 1/2 a sec. my friend bought a new gt, installed an exhaust and a few other bolt ons and couldn't get faster than 15.8 with a stick and he does know how to drive. the stock ls1's turn mid 13's.
there is really nothing different between the z28 and the ss performance-wise. you have the larger diameter exhaust, the hood which is far from being a functional ram air, thicker sway bars,heavier springs and some badging. GM has the ss rated about 20 hp over the stock z28 when in reality, there is an average of 5hp difference. i just love how some of you make it seem as if the ss has 50-100 hp over a stock z28. :rolleyes:
my friends stock z28 was putting down more hp and tq than most ss's in my club so it doesn't come down to ss,z28,formula,firehawk & ws6. with the little horsepower difference between them, they aren't going to be significantly faster than one or another and occasionally you get a factory freak that slips through the system.;)

TCracin440ex
03-16-2005, 09:17 PM
nah...just know my bowties...and real men wear bowties...

my dream car is a 1970 chevelle ss with a built 454 in it...

Chef
03-16-2005, 09:18 PM
Whats a Z28 camaro cost? And whats the displacement on one?

TCracin440ex
03-16-2005, 09:21 PM
why u gonna go an ask a dumb *** question like that...

depending on what year your talking about

and displacement is a 350ci 5.7 ltr

Chef
03-16-2005, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by crday98
i can tell you from personal experience that the mustang will lose badly and by more than 1/2 a sec. my friend bought a new gt, installed an exhaust and a few other bolt ons and couldn't get faster than 15.8 with a stick and he does know how to drive. the stock ls1's turn mid 13's.


Couldn't get faster than a 15.8? Wow. What else was wrong with the car? Not trying to be a dick...but those numbers are laughable. Most GT's I've seen are mid to high 14's with exhaust and air filter and whatnot, which is a little more than a second slower than a Mach at the same place on the same night.

LT250Racer609
03-16-2005, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by crday98
i can tell you from personal experience that the mustang will lose badly and by more than 1/2 a sec. my friend bought a new gt, installed an exhaust and a few other bolt ons and couldn't get faster than 15.8 with a stick and he does know how to drive. the stock ls1's turn mid 13's.
there is really nothing different between the z28 and the ss performance-wise. you have the larger diameter exhaust, the hood which is far from being a functional ram air, thicker sway bars,heavier springs and some badging. GM has the ss rated about 20 hp over the stock z28 when in reality, there is an average of 5hp difference. i just love how some of you make it seem as if the ss has 50-100 hp over a stock z28. :rolleyes:
my friends stock z28 was putting down more hp and tq than most ss's in my club so it doesn't come down to ss,z28,formula,firehawk & ws6. with the little horsepower difference between them, they aren't going to be significantly faster than one or another and occasionally you get a factory freak that slips through the system.;)




yes but it all depends what year SS....the 98 SS made 330 HP while the 98 Z28 made 280 HP...98 SS ran 13.1 in the 1/4 while the Z28 ran 13.3....thats a noticible HP difference.. from 93 up all the z28's made all around 230 HP...the Z28's have a LT V-8 while the SS has a LS1 V-8 (all aluminum)...yes maybe the Z 28 was putting down more Hp...but in reality its HP to weight...and the SS is lighter then the Z-28 meaning the SS is gonna win...the 98 SS was the highest HP year...after that it went between 320-330 up untill the last year...the 2002

Chef
03-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
why u gonna go an ask a dumb *** question like that...

depending on what year your talking about

and displacement is a 350ci 5.7 ltr

A dumb *** question? About how much they list for? Explain to me in your infinite wisdom about how thats such a "dumb *** question".

Sweet. The good ole 5.7 is about even with my 4.6. Give me an extra 1100ccs or about 70 CI and lets go again.

Quad18star
03-16-2005, 09:29 PM
I love both the Fords and the Chevys .... but I'd put my $$ on the Chevy any day of the week .

I'm gunna have to dig up pictures of my uncle's 68 Camaro that he had but sold like 2 months ago . It was a 454 but was built to the max . Not running any nitrous either . He had the interior gutted , but still had full glass in it , headlights , heater core and he was running Mickey Thompson ET Streets ( no tub ) . We brought her down to Cayuga ... now know as Toronto Motorsports Park .... we did just a bit of testing cuz the car was hesitating .... brought it back to the trailer and tuned her up . First round of qualifying .... he launched it with a perfect .501 light and ran the quarter at high 8 seconds . The NHRA officials came and seen us at the trailer and told us to pack her up and take her home .... she was running too fast of a time for the safety devices that were in the car . Packed up and did the 7 hour trip home . The following weekend we were out there and ran consistant 8.7s ... this time we made sure she was up to par for racing . We made it to the semi finals but beat our own time . Packed up and drove home .

Gotta love the life of drag racing . :D If you wanna know if the Chevy or Ford is faster ... find 2 of them , bring them to the nearest 1/4 mile and let them loose .... it's the only way to do it . :devil:

TCracin440ex
03-16-2005, 09:38 PM
well depending on what is done to the camro and hwat year it is...im going to say if its an 01 z28 used considerin you cant buy a camaro brand new unless a dealer has 1 put away...8grand-20grand depending on whats done to it and how its been kept. mind you this is used...brand new z28 back when they were sellin them listed from 18g to 23 not sure so cant hold me to that

crday98
03-16-2005, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by LT250Racer609
yes but it all depends what year SS....the 98 SS made 330 HP while the 98 Z28 made 280 HP...98 SS ran 13.1 in the 1/4 while the Z28 ran 13.3....thats a noticible HP difference.. from 93 up all the z28's made all around 230 HP...the Z28's have a LT V-8 while the SS has a LS1 V-8 (all aluminum)...yes maybe the Z 28 was putting down more Hp...but in reality its HP to weight...and the SS is lighter then the Z-28 meaning the SS is gonna win...the 98 SS was the highest HP year...after that it went between 320-330 up untill the last year...the 2002
don't post info if you have no idea what you are talking about!!! you have no clue what you are talking about junior. go educate
yourself then come back and admit to being an idiot. you are not going to tell me anything i don't already know and nothing you posted is correct!!! i have spent my life around f-bodies and know them well. i have owned 10 between all 4 generations through the years. you also might want to click on the link in my profile and see the f-body club that i and another fellow owner started.
you can read the other thread to educate yourself on just some of the things you are wrong about.;)

sorry to sound like an *** but i just can't stand people who open their mouth acting like they know it everything when in reality they know squat!!:grr: :D

crday98
03-16-2005, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Chef
Couldn't get faster than a 15.8? Wow. What else was wrong with the car? Not trying to be a dick...but those numbers are laughable. Most GT's I've seen are mid to high 14's with exhaust and air filter and whatnot, which is a little more than a second slower than a Mach at the same place on the same night. trust me, you are not offending me any. he was pretty embarrassed when he got his arse handed to him by our buddy with his modded duramax diesel.:D he blames it on the fact that the car only had 600 miles on the clock and it was not broken it yet.:D there were a few gt's of the same year there that day and they all ran almost equal or 2 10th's faster than his time.

EPDP99
03-16-2005, 11:26 PM
id venture to say if ford put out a 351 modular motor vs. chevys 350, the ford would win. Look back...fords 302 vs chevys 305(ford would win hands down).But why would ford do that because they are making hand over fist the money because the quality is better. Less to make and sell tons more. They are putting a nice chunck of change in their pockets and money talks. To me the ford vs. chevy conflict doesnt mean anything to the big wigs but the money does. And on that not i dont think ill get to see an actual motor for motor comparison. But thats my opinion.....

LT250Racer609
03-17-2005, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by crday98
don't post info if you have no idea what you are talking about!!! you have no clue what you are talking about junior. go educate
yourself then come back and admit to being an idiot. you are not going to tell me anything i don't already know and nothing you posted is correct!!! i have spent my life around f-bodies and know them well. i have owned 10 between all 4 generations through the years. you also might want to click on the link in my profile and see the f-body club that i and another fellow owner started.
you can read the other thread to educate yourself on just some of the things you are wrong about.;)

sorry to sound like an *** but i just can't stand people who open their mouth acting like they know it everything when in reality they know squat!!:grr: :D




haha **** you ****in dick head...if you wanna insult me you need to grow the **** up before talking ****

JForestZ34
03-17-2005, 01:21 PM
Well I see a couple of things wrong with one of the posts here. I'm no expert but the First one was posted by Chef. In order to get the low 11's or mid to high 10's your car has to be putting out around 600hp. I doubt your freinds camaro has that much power, he would have to build the rear up for all that power. If he was running 15psi of boost in that charger he would probably blow an intake gasket or some other kind of over pressure failure.


Second one I saw was the one that said his buddy raced a mustang that was a stroker with a 200 shot of NOS. I that mustang had that stuff on it it would have spanked that camaro with the nitro. Without NOS it would be a real close race. I don't think that the mustang would have only won by a half a car length especally with a 200 shot of NOS.


James

Juggalo
03-17-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by EPDP99
id venture to say if ford put out a 351 modular motor vs. chevys 350, the ford would win. Look back...fords 302 vs chevys 305(ford would win hands down).But why would ford do that because they are making hand over fist the money because the quality is better. Less to make and sell tons more. They are putting a nice chunck of change in their pockets and money talks. To me the ford vs. chevy conflict doesnt mean anything to the big wigs but the money does. And on that not i dont think ill get to see an actual motor for motor comparison. But thats my opinion.....

ah man no doubt about it. back in the 3rd gen F-body and fox body mustang days they didnt even compare the chevy 305 to the ford 302. the 305 didnt even compare. in fact the 302 was almost exactly as fast as the 350 was at that time. now i realize the LT1's in the early 4th gens and especially the LS1's in later 4th gens are very different than the ol 350 TPI's they had in the 3rd gens. the point i am trying to make here is ford has consistantly been very close to the camaros even tho the camaros have waaay bigger engines. think about it you have that nice aluminum block 350 5.7L vs fords iron block 4.6 SOHC and the maro aint gonna be all that much faster. now if you start gettin into the DOHC 4.6 ram air (mach 1) or DOHC supercharged (cobra..its not a whole lot of boost their putting into that motor either) and the difference is very small. that DOHC 4.6 aint no joke either. aint bad for a 289 (?) vs a 350 eh?

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
do us all a favor and shut the **** up about your stupid ****ing mustang for two ****ing minutes okay?
Its Ok to be Jelous;)
You are a fu*king Fa*got who probaly drives a 6 cylinder Camaro so don't speak.

Matt37
03-17-2005, 04:53 PM
Its Ok to be Jelous
You are a fu*king Fa*got who probaly drives a 6 cylinder Camaro so don't speak.

WOW!, I wouldnt get to cocky, Your rustang isnt that fast that you can treat Camaros like they are the dirt under your feet. :rolleyes:

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Matt37
WOW!, I wouldnt get to cocky, Your rustang isnt that fast that you can treat Camaros like they are the dirt under your feet. :rolleyes:
F*ck you too. 10.13 In the 1/4 isn't that fast for a street driven car right? If my cobra don't get the job done my dad's 9.46 second Fox body will. Theres plenty more stangs in this family too. I talk SH*T cuz i can back it up not because i feel like bein a smart ***. I have built many mustangs in my life and love my fords.

trick450r
03-17-2005, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by SadisticShee
Its Ok to be Jelous;)
You are a fu*king Fa*got who probaly drives a 6 cylinder Camaro so don't speak.

nope i dont drive a six cylinder camaro...or a big bad mustang like you...but i do drive a lifted fj40 land cruiser that could run the **** over your little 10 second piece of ****ing ****....

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
nope i dont drive a six cylinder camaro...or a big bad mustang like you...but i do drive a lifted fj40 land cruiser that could run the **** over your little 10 second piece of ****ing ****....
I don't see that happening considering you gotta catch me first dumb*ss

Matt37
03-17-2005, 05:26 PM
F*ck you too. 10.13 In the 1/4 isn't that fast for a street driven car right? If my cobra don't get the job done my dad's 9.46 second Fox body will. Theres plenty more stangs in this family too. I talk SH*T cuz i can back it up not because i feel like bein a smart ***. I have built many mustangs in my life and love my fords.

Iam not trying to start a fight, and quit frankly i dont give a crap what your family has. You dont have to curse everyone off that says something to you like your rustang is god. Cuz its not, Grow up

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Matt37
Iam not trying to start a fight, and quit frankly i dont give a crap what your family has. You dont have to curse everyone off that says something to you like your rustang is god. Cuz its not, Grow up
Yea ok bro I don't recall ever saying my mustang was god. the topic is camaro vs mustang so i posted my thoughts thats all. So once again F*CK off

trick450r
03-17-2005, 05:31 PM
have you noticed that no one wants to here you bull**** here?...your not exactly making any friends and im sure soon enough you will be banned...so i would stfu while i had still had the chance...okay?

TCracin440ex
03-17-2005, 05:33 PM
this thread is bound for closing, and sadisticshee is bound for banning

FoxRacing81
03-17-2005, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by taw
What about the new GTO, they do look like a suped up grand prix but those things got 400 hp lol. Car and driver said as fast as they could get it was like 167 i do believe. To me thats quite impressive.

Test rode one and yup them puppies are quick. I was in the back seat (I guess if that's what you'd call it, its more like a babys car seat) and when my brother stepped on it (really cool guy who worked at the dealership...haha..he said he didn't care what we did...he said if we wouldnt tell he wouldnt...haha...very cool guy )and it threw my head into the back of the seat. So yeah they got balls. And they look and drive like a Grand Prix on steriods. except I think the rear tailights look like there from a like Sunfire...I don't know...but yea them GTO's are quick.

-Mx

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
have you noticed that no one wants to here you bull**** here?...your not exactly making any friends and im sure soon enough you will be banned...so i would stfu while i had still had the chance...okay?
First off i diddn't come on this site to make friends. Im not a loser who has to go on the internet to make friends. I got plenty of real life friends. Second, Ban me? Who the **** cares its a website. Oh no pls don't ban me I just don't know what i would ever do if that happened....

trick450r
03-17-2005, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by SadisticShee
First off i diddn't come on this site to make friends. Im not a loser who has to go on the internet to make friends. I got plenty of real life friends. Second, Ban me? Who the **** cares its a website. Oh no pls don't ban me I just don't know what i would ever do if that happened....

if you dont care then why dont you just leave now?



pompus **** holes arn't welcome here....

crday98
03-17-2005, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by LT250Racer609
haha **** you ****in dick head...if you wanna insult me you need to grow the **** up before talking **** i need to grow up?:rolleyes:
i didn't insult you! you did that yourself by acting like you knew everything while you know nothing!! i educated and corrected you.;) how does that make me immature? the truth hurts doesn't it?

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
if you dont care then why dont you just leave now?



pompus **** holes arn't welcome here....

Bro STFU already. If you were here right now I woulda already Punched u in yer ****en mouth, just shut the fu*k up.....

Go ride your stupid Fu*ken Honda or something


Peace Bi*ch

TCracin440ex
03-17-2005, 05:52 PM
oh man an internet tuff guy...oh no please dont beat us up...gonna send us a pic of a fist or something....gonna cyber smack us???

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
oh man an internet tuff guy...oh no please dont beat us up...gonna send us a pic of a fist or something....gonna cyber smack us???
Look what we got here another fu*ken dickwad!
All i did was post my opinion on the camaro vs mustang and people start talkin smack. I don't haveta be an internet tuff guy cuz even if u were in my face u bi*ches wouldn't do a damn thing.......
I'll ****en cyberslap yer mom u prick

trick450r
03-17-2005, 05:55 PM
oh man TC racin..lets go run and hide....and sadistic****...dont dis honda i will smoke your *** on a track ANY day...and im not talking drag...lets try sumthing that takes skill...try MX!!

TCracin440ex
03-17-2005, 05:59 PM
im so scared right now...i think im going to go cry in a corner in my room....NOT...sadistic grow up dude...dont talk smack over the net...

ive said it a bunch of times, and ill say it again

arguing over the internet is like running the special olympics, no matter who wins...your still retarded

SadisticShee
03-17-2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
oh man TC racin..lets go run and hide....and sadistic****...dont dis honda i will smoke your *** on a track ANY day...and im not talking drag...lets try sumthing that takes skill...try MX!!
Yea i bet u will..... whatever u say scooter!
anyway i'd love to sit here and keep argueing with you but i got better things to do so keep typing **** go ahead.....

TCracin440ex
03-17-2005, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by SadisticShee
so keep typing **** go ahead.....

is that a threat tuff guy???

dude loosen up...i have some respect for cobras, my buddy has an 03 cobra svt with a kennybell supercharger, flowmasters, chip, bbk long tube headers, 4:10 gears, some sorta device for locking up the irs, all kinda go fast goodies...had it dynoed at 610 at the rear wheels....got respect for that cobra

my other buddy has a 03 svt with a whipple supercharger, flowmasters, gt rearend, forged alu. block, cam regrinds, so much stuff its too much to list...he flatlined a 650hp dyno.....he had it dynoed again on a different dyno that would go over 650...720 at the ground...not to bad...i odnt know what his ets are but its a quick *** car

funny thing about the 2nd svt...is it got beat by an old 1995 chevy camaro lt1 with exhaust cutouts, nos, headers, draglite wheels, and et streets

only reason the cobra lost is because he had his street tires on and they were street racing...so his car wont doing nothin but spinning...you can make mustangs or cobras have serious hp...but if you put an equal amount of money into a camaro, and the mustang...the camaro will be ontop

buttskinbmx2087
03-18-2005, 10:16 PM
wow i didnt think askin a ? about ford vs. chevy would create such a fight...ppl need to stop actin so imature...:ermm:

TCracin440ex
03-18-2005, 10:26 PM
yea tell me about it...but anytime you ask a question chevy vs ford its a heated arguement right there

the same deal bout the 450r vs yfz...

opinions are like a$sholes...everybody has one, but everybody's is different..

Bling
03-19-2005, 02:04 PM
HaHa, wow. I'm coming from the 5.0 Mustang world and every one of the 100's of sites dedicated to them has this same argument on it. Never thought I'd see it on a ATV site:D I spent the last 15 yrs building, racing, blowing up and enjoying Mustangs. Had everything from 14 sec cruisers to 9 sec monsters. The main thing I learned over the years is that there's ALWAYS someone faster! I've lost races to Chevy's, Mopars, Buicks, Fords and even some imports. Never will the "Ford vs Chevy" argument be solved. Like someone said up top, opinions are like *******s. Asking even a simple question like "Is a camaro faster than a GT?" will turn ugly. Stock for stock, the Chebby wins almost every time. Thats why I never drove a stock Mustang. Wasn't about to let my dick get slapped around by some yokel in a Camaro if I could help it:devil: . Is the 450R vs YFZ argument just as dangerous???


- Mike