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JDiablo
03-12-2005, 10:05 PM
anyone ever built one of these?Have pictures?
Or would it be better just to stick with a CRF 450 or Yz426
www.walshracecraft.com
id like to have a ktm quad if they came out with one
JDiablo
03-12-2005, 10:35 PM
yea but the thing is i've heard from a few people lately that the wait for walsh now is almost a year,and he isnt taking any more orders till he gets caught up at his new place or something
BTW who does 400ex to crf450 conversions? JB i think right?
Originally posted by 300exrida
yea but the thing is i've heard from a few people lately that the wait for walsh now is almost a year,and he isnt taking any more orders till he gets caught up at his new place or something
BTW who does 400ex to crf450 conversions? JB i think right? i think i saw a lsr ktm frame on this site before.... jb does sell conversion kits but the 400ex frame doesnt hold up all that well with the crf motor in it, lsr sells a crf frame that uses 400ex geometry too
by the way these guys arent that popular yet but i bought my rear shock from him and i was looking at his yzf /crf hybrid that is insanely nicely and neatly built, i beleive you can run a crf or yzf motor with it too www.race-co.com go to ultimate chassis
JDiablo
03-12-2005, 10:45 PM
i would rather stick with a stock frame instead of spending a arm and a leg on a aftermarket one,i think a fully gusseted frame will hold up decent...no?
Originally posted by 300exrida
i would rather stick with a stock frame instead of spending a arm and a leg on a aftermarket one,i think a fully gusseted frame will hold up decent...no?
no they still break i was going to buy a used one for 300 bucks with the jb crf kit, but i decided against it, he had cracked it all up and it was plated and re gusseted in a couple spots
JDiablo
03-12-2005, 10:51 PM
well if i can find a used one then ill grab one of those,ill prolly give 416exmx a PM about it,i know he has done multiple CRF450's with 400ex frames
Originally posted by 300exrida
well if i can find a used one then ill grab one of those,ill prolly give 416exmx a PM about it,i know he has done multiple CRF450's with 400ex frames
what kinda crf is that? prp?
the jb kit for the stock frame is 600 bucks i think
wilkin250r
03-12-2005, 10:55 PM
If memory serves, the chain and drive is on the opposite side on a KTM, so that complicated the conversion process. If it wasn't for this, I bet you would see a lot more KTM conversions, they really are nice motors.
JDiablo
03-12-2005, 10:55 PM
i think so,it is pretty trick,either PRP or LSR
JDiablo
03-12-2005, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
If memory serves, the chain and drive is on the opposite side on a KTM, so that complicated the conversion process. If it wasn't for this, I bet you would see a lot more KTM conversions, they really are nice motors.
ahhh i see,and i was just checking around,damn the KTM motors are hella expensive :ermm:
ill stick with a CRF 450 then
chains are on the left im pretty sure, i did a lil research for ya, heres a lsr ktm 450 hybrid http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60006&highlight=hybrid i mrember it was a awesome quad
"choose the KTM because I like something different, plus I have the options to go bigger. 470, 500, 510, 540, 570 and up to 612.
Also I like the 6 speed tranny and the fun button (e-start)"
interesting quote fom that thread, makes me want one even more
:p eventually i want a hybrid quad, crf, or ktm not sure which:p open calss bike tho so im leaning toward ktm if i do do it
JDiablo
03-12-2005, 11:18 PM
i wouldnt mind taking this engine and throwing it in a walsh frame:D
700 cc two stroke:eek2:
exatak199
03-12-2005, 11:42 PM
if i was going to do a KTM quad i would put it in a C-dale (now ATK) frame if it would fit. i thoikn it would be a intresting project;)
400exBro
03-13-2005, 09:39 AM
Get a hold of thomas, i believe he some times still comes on here...
he just recently went from the 450 KTM up to the 520 i believe... it is a really nice bike and has lots of power, if i had the money i would of built one too!!! Thomas ktm is not a conversion it is a 250r based frame built for the ktm motor, lsr makes the frames too...
he opted to let East Coast ATV build it for him, probably get a hold of them and see what they can do for you.
JDiablo
03-13-2005, 09:42 AM
ok cool,i think im going to be building this one as a short/long term project
Plus i want to get the learning expierence in as well,although i've built two quads already
I still havent built a full blown hybrid in which this will be and im going to let pappy work a color combo that noone has ever seen before so im stoked like hell about this
Gabriel Racing
03-13-2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by 300exrida
well if i can find a used one then ill grab one of those,ill prolly give 416exmx a PM about it,i know he has done multiple CRF450's with 400ex frames
actually that is a full jrd racing crf450.
it used to be a kid i know in new jerseys, then he traded it for a 450r, the guy who has it now lives in Ohio.
xsr_racing28c
03-13-2005, 10:53 AM
I plan to some day build an insane hybrid of some sort also, but don't wanna do the same old crf conversion...about a 2 years ago, i was gonna start into putting one of my 700 cc rotax mod sled motors in my lil sisters blaster, but then i got into a huge atv accident so i was thrown off of the project,and then bought a 450r... i had a local guy that was gonna build me a special chain drive clutch setup for it ( hes done this before , with putting snowmobile motors in lawn mowers ..lol) but then the project got put off and i sold the mod motor... but soon i plan to get into doing another project, but have to sort through some ideas first
JDiablo
03-13-2005, 11:02 AM
lol that sounds sweet,i would be scared to ride that lawnmower,once my dad and i build another garage im going to start building all kinds of stuff,i want to put a banshee engine in a small dune buggy frame,like a big go cart,that will be trick
Gabriel Racing
03-13-2005, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by 300exrida
lol that sounds sweet,i would be scared to ride that lawnmower,once my dad and i build another garage im going to start building all kinds of stuff,i want to put a banshee engine in a small dune buggy frame,like a big go cart,that will be trick
i know the members are going to say somthing negative or somthing about it but, you should look into Herrmann Racing stuff,
if you call tell them Jordan gabriel sent you, tell them hes the one with the walsh 250r/blaster.
but anyway there are a couple sweet crf 450's on ebay right now.
clutt225
03-13-2005, 01:12 PM
On KTM's web site they are hireing an engineer for atv frames so you can bet it's on it's way, and if it's any thing like there bikes it will rock. So why go through the trouble of building a hybrid when you can just wait a year or two.
clutt225
03-13-2005, 01:15 PM
300exrida
The suzuki dealer near my house just built a banshee bugie.
It's scary fast. I will try to get pics and post them.
markk
03-13-2005, 01:51 PM
I noticed a 520KTM Quad at the Ga. GNCC this last weekend. It had green plastics thats all i could really tell u! I just saw him/her go by our pits a time or two! But it sounded beasty!
Dale512
03-13-2005, 02:05 PM
Daryl Rath has a KTM 525 engine in a Predator chassis.
400exBro
03-13-2005, 05:18 PM
here is a somewhat recent picture of Thomas KTM quad, this was from the last race of the season last year...
clutt225
03-13-2005, 06:44 PM
Is that james banks bike behind the KTM.
FourFiftyFour
03-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by exatak199
if i was going to do a KTM quad i would put it in a C-dale (now ATK) frame if it would fit. i thoikn it would be a intresting project;)
i know of someone who is doing that, they were posting their progress on cannondaleriders.
exatak199
03-13-2005, 10:00 PM
do you happen to have a link CDaleChick?
Brad77
03-14-2005, 07:56 AM
Here is the link for the KTM Cannondale. This particular KTM engine has the chain on the right side just like the Cannondale.
http://www.cannondaleriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8570
I am building a 400ex/520sx hybrid. Hope to have it done soon.
Here is a pic
http://users.nlamerica.com/dixiebai/temp/ktm/ktm1.jpg
Quad18star
03-14-2005, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Gabriel Racing
actually that is a full jrd racing crf450.
it used to be a kid i know in new jerseys, then he traded it for a 450r, the guy who has it now lives in Ohio.
The guy who has it now lives in Florida . His name is Matt Smith . The quad is actually for sale now ... it's in the Classified section . If i remember correctly , his user name is FlrMX911 or something like that .
Quad18star
03-14-2005, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by clutt225
Is that james banks bike behind the KTM.
That does look to be Banks' with the Fibe Industries graphics kit .
ThumPIN_450R
03-14-2005, 01:11 PM
I know a guy that has a CR 250 motor in a cannondale chassis that thing is very light and a sweet bike too
Ex_Rider43
03-14-2005, 03:37 PM
a couple of pro's here in quebec are also racing KTM's hybrid quads. i can just say that they are the nicest bikes on the circuit. at least 2 of them are walsh framed , 1 is TRC and the other one is unknown to me.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pa322c06258def7667a7880a823e58b79/f5375219.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0bQDvArAgag43DYgI4o2xpDLSgkGPVVefOE3EmtVPn0cMHu3*V w0c0ry3ow76DWaJwqkOfsF1JMdj*NAj5YGSO3pHuYNB9fZ5KTI baxvQj*cE07AI71yCIL883UTjFK5i3LYBsOnmO*iZb6E40J8Gv MFsHJF0XEVr/courses%20glace%20roxton%202005-01-30%20001.jpg
this is the TRC one.
400exBro
03-15-2005, 10:15 AM
ya that is James houser 450 in the back ground...
he is also running a trx450r this year too, i believe he is racing Pro production now...
Quad18star
03-15-2005, 05:58 PM
Timo .... have the rules changed this year up here ?? Do we have a Production Class or .... ??? I haven't followed it much cuz it doesn't look like we're gunna have a series up here in Northern Ontario this year .... and the CMRC website can lick my left nut . They are glad to take the ATV racers money , but won't do jack chit for the Quad racers . :mad:
400exBro
03-15-2005, 07:49 PM
No the rules haven't change at all over the last three years... they hardly care about us, they don't check for kill switchs, or nerf bars!!!!! they just put us on the track and try to get us off as soon as possible... CMRC is starting to lose a lot of people, it seems that most are going over the CMX side, which has a lot more class and seems more towards quads... ( www.cmxracing.com ) the races seem more up towards you more, where cmrc the races are closer to me and that is why i went with cmrc... There are more class with cmx and the quads run on saturday with the bikes running on sunday, (unlike cmrc only have 2 class and have to share the track with the bikes) this seems like a better set up and will attrack more quad riders...
the only thing CMRC does for us quad guys/gals is give atv nationals at some good tracks... Gopher dunes is a great facility, i love that track it gets real rough becuase of the sand, but it seprates the men from the boys!!! RAT track is also an awsome facility, doesn't get rough but it is really long and fast with some big jumps.... I think we need to get a whole bunch of people together and see if we can get more respect!!!!!
Ex_Rider43
03-15-2005, 09:01 PM
atv racing is getting crazy here in quebec its gonna be very big this summer in the CMRC I cant wait and yes we will have a 450 production class and a 450 pro open class but only next year , we can say its like the pro class ans pro production class in the GNC in 2003.
ATV nationals are going to be only in quebec this year I think maybe 1 event will be in ontario which suck for you guys :(
Quad18star
03-16-2005, 12:13 PM
According to the South Western Ontario schedule ( SWO) ... there will be I think 2 Nationals here in Ontario . A few weeks ago they had it that there was gunna be 3 Nationals , but Cochrane got bumped off the list . Cochrane was an AMAZING track , but I guess it was just too far for everyone to travel . Looks like it got replace by Notre Dame du Bon Conseil ( or something like that) .... it's in Quebec I know that much .
Timo ... I didn't know that CMX had quad classes . I thought they were only dirt bike oriented .
400exBro
03-16-2005, 03:29 PM
Ya now there is only 2 nationals in ontario: Gopher dunes and RAT track... gopher dunes is also hosting the CMRC PRO dirt bike national instead of RJ which will be intersting... I hope that we get more classes becuase Jr and Pro just aren't cutting it anymore, too many people in the JR class and only 4 pros...
ya CMX is actually pretty big on quads now, i have always thought that cmx was only dirt bikes....
o and my 450 is back together now, really looking sweet, just have to set the camber and toe in and she is done.
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