what should I do?? BAD ebay experience!

[YZ400EX]

Ok I need to know what I should do about all this..Anyways I won an auction on Ebay for a set of 400ex Pro-peg nerf bars..Link to the auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5955293329&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

They looked a little tweeked in the pic so I wrote the guy and asked "are these nerfs bent at all and are they for the 400ex?" he writes back "no they are in perfect shape, no bends at all and yes they are for a 400ex". So I figure ok I will bid to win.. After I win the auction I email the seller and ask him to make sure he sends all the mounting hardware with it..He then writes me back and says "no mounting hardware is included, what you see in the pics is what you get." So this already makes me pretty mad that he doesnt list in the auction they dont come with the mounting hardware because what good are they with out the mounting hardware..I complain a little, he drops the price for me to $90 shipped which I can deal with so I paypal him the money..Well takes him over a week to even ship them and then when I do get them, I dont even think they are for a 400ex, they are slightly tweaked and are pretty scratched up..They dont even come close to fitting on my quad at all..I mean not even close at all..I have no idea what these would be for, maybe a 250R..I really have no idea..the guy wont even write me back about any of it and is kind of an @$$ when he does anyways, but now he doesnt at all anyways..I know I can leave him bad feedback, but what good does that do for me with a set of nerf bars that I cant use and have no idea what they are for so I cant even sell them..Sorry this was so long, but I needed to VENT!!! any suggestions anyone??

[crday98]

in the "brief" item description it says tubing and netting in great shape yet you can clearly see i big dent in the tubing on the left nerf. there is nothing in the item description that says what quad they are for. if he emailed you prior to the close of the auction stating that they were for a 400 ex and they are not, contact ebay and explain the situation.

[416exmx]

they are for a frame with tubes welded in for pro-pegs. If you look, in the front the tubes are not desgined to slide in one another but made to slide over tubes. that's why there is no mounting hardware either.

[YZ400EX]

Well the things is I am not sure what they are for though?? Even if they slid onto the tubes they would still be so far off..Its hard to explain what I mean, but maybe I should post some pics..

[416exmx]

yeah post some pics. we'll figure it out

[YZ400EX]

(These nerf pics are not mounted, but just sitting next to the quad)

Here is how its sits if they were mounted right..notice the front part of the netting going into the frame..

[YZ400EX]

Ok sitting like they should in the first pic this is how far the tube goes across the frame..Notice its all the way across..Its like they are way too wide..you will see in the next pic. what I mean..

[YZ400EX]

Now in this pics I set them on there and this is how far they would have to be away from the quad in order for them to mount even close to right..Anyone have any ideas??

[416exmx]

yeah after i thought about it, on a pro-peg frame, the front and back of the nerf tubes will be the same length. i dont know what you have there.

[YZ400EX]

Originally posted by crday98
in the "brief" item description it says tubing and netting in great shape yet you can clearly see i big dent in the tubing on the left nerf. there is nothing in the item description that says what quad they are for. if he emailed you prior to the close of the auction stating that they were for a 400 ex and they are not, contact ebay and explain the situation.

As far as the "big dent" it isnt there..for some reason it looks like it in that pic, but it isnt on the actualy nerf bars ( kinda wierd).. In the item description it doesnt say anything about what they are for, but the title says 250r, 400ex and I did ask the guy before I bid and he said they were for a 400ex, which obviously they are not..I have been through similar things like this through ebay, and ebay is absolutely no help at all in these situations..

[YZ400EX]

Originally posted by 416exmx
yeah after i thought about it, on a pro-peg frame, the front and back of the nerf tubes will be the same length. i dont know what you have there.

Same here!!

[JMX]

Its pretty good that people post some of their ebay experiences. It helps other people to know what to look out for if they're looking to buy something off ebay. Personally I like to just spend the extra money to get new parts instead of looking for deals on used parts. Too bad that your nerfs dont fit. Could they be for a 250x/300ex or maybe a blaster? Just a suggestion.

[bulkdriverlp]

tell him you want a full refund with shipping or youll report him to ebay

[YZ400EX]

Originally posted by bulkdriverlp
tell him you want a full refund with shipping or youll report him to ebay

I have done that lastnight, but he hasnt written back yet..Like I said he doesnt write me back at all lately..

[chucked]

you'll have to send them back also

[Matt37]

The bad part is when this happens there is nothing you can really do i have gottens screwed over soo many times on ebay and maybe 15% of the time i get my money back. I always report to ebay which does not do much usually ebay will say okay we will investigate it and then emails you back the next day telling you they have found nothing. I know a kid who works for ebay and he says ebay gets over 45,000 complaints a day for fraud. Ebay is getting completely out of hand. Usually the way i get my money back is have pay-pal do an investigation and sometimes they email you back in a few days saying they got your money back but usually they only do this if the item you won was never shipped not if it was not in the correct condition. Chances are that that guy is long gone :ermm:

[chucked]

I just sold a gas tank for a zx7 on ebay, it was damaged in shipping, well the guy didnt pay for insurance but he's still holding it against me anyway. But guess what! There's pretty much nothing I can do.

[aviator4]

I don't know what they are for, but I can tell you they are definatley NOT for a 400EX. My pro pegs look just like these, with the exceptio of the front. Mine don't bridge all the way accross the frame in the front. They also have a tab welded onto them to attach to the front engine mout bolt on the bottom.

Definatley NOT for a 400

The rear section looks close. The mounting brackets that come with the AC's do move the peg around a little. I had to "stretch" my AC's to get them to fit.

[YZ400EX]

yea the guy still hasnt wrote me back..I am assuming that he is just going to ignore me because he knows he has my money and there isnt much I can do about it..I just wish I knew what they were for so I could at least sell them and get PART of my money back..

[250R-Dee]

If you use paypal, file a claim with them and then contact Ebay. Paypal will suspend his account until he resolves the situation.

[JTRtrx250r]

the guy should have listed they were pro-pegs for an aftermarket frame...hes the seller and should know wtf hes selling, Ive seen more BS in the Ebay ads..." fits all honda 250R's" and its a damn oil filter:rolleyes: :grr: To me ...thats false advertisement, give him chitty feedback , thats what its for..

Hope you get it resolved

[dirtmomma]

Originally posted by JTRtrx250r
the guy should have listed they were pro-pegs for an aftermarket frame...hes the seller and should know wtf hes selling, Ive seen more BS in the Ebay ads..." fits all honda 250R's" and its a damn oil filter:rolleyes: :grr: To me ...thats false advertisement, give him chitty feedback , thats what its for..

Hope you get it resolved


What??? Your R does't have a filter :huh :devil: ;) :p heeheee that a GOOD one!!!

I would do what TRX250rjapan said, file a complaint w/ PP & Ebay!!!

[fasterblaster09]

looks like 300ex nerfs to me,mine (on the 300ex) have a tube that goes between the frame into the other side ..just my $.02

[YZ400EX]

Well everyone I gave the guy many many chances to get back to me and resolve the issue..I have been emailing him every night..still nothing..Well I have taken the steps and filed a complaint through Ebay and Paypal..paypal says if he doesnt respond they will refund all my money..lets hope they find me in the right or he doesnt respond..

[YZ400EX]

Originally posted by fasterblaster09
looks like 300ex nerfs to me,mine (on the 300ex) have a tube that goes between the frame into the other side ..just my $.02

Well I have never seen propegs for a 300ex, but the bar goes all the way through the frame, but so does the other side..they dont slide together..Who knows what they are for..hopefully I just get all my money back so I can buy something I can use..

[CuzzinOlaf]

Whats up. I am new here but figured I might as well make my first post something useful to everyone who buys ANYTHING online. Sorry it's so long but it is well worth reading if you get into a bad situation. Many of this stuff actually works. I bought a helmet and almost got scammed, no response or refund for 3 weeks. I sent a nice friendly ;) email to scare the chit out of the guy and 3 hours later had a full refund. Enjoy.

Yea it might be overkill but who cares.

First, as a general rule for dealings on the Internet, keep copies of EVERYTHING- emails, PayPal receipts, money order stubs, everything! Second, be aware that steps 1 and 2 can involve a lot of back and forth between them, depending on the method of payment.

STEP 1.
Inform the Financial Institutions and websites involved.

If you paid by money order place a complaint AND a trace on the money order with the company that sold it (western union, USPS, etc.). Make sure it was cashed. Find out WHERE it was cashed. The same goes for a check, whether issued by a bank or a personal check.

If you paid by PayPal, go to the PayPal website at http://www.paypal.com and look for the complaint process. PayPal Buyer Complaint Info Page.
Next, Review the Buyer Complaint Process and fill out a "Buyer Complaint Form" through the Security Center. If you are logged in on the PayPal site, it may take you to a different site than these links. You must be logged in to fill out the form.

If it was on eBay or another auction site, look for the "Safe Harbor" clause or provisions in the user agreement. Try the "help" icons and search for "fraud" or "safe harbor" in the FAQs or Help sections.
Here is the General Help Page for eBay:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/index.html
Here is the Fraud Protection Information:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/con....html

Most other auction sites have similar policies. I use eBay as an example because I, like many of you, use it frequently.

Most forums are like this one: Buyer Beware. While you may get moderator assistance to get IP information, login frequency, and other contact info, in most cases nothing can be done.

One other thing to look into is the fact that eBay and PayPal are now one company. While before they would play one off of the other as to whose responsibility it was, they can no longer do that safely, as statements of one could be used against the other. This should, at least in theory, cut down on passing of the buck between the two, a common thing in the past.

Your bank or credit card can also be a powerful ally. While not necessarily bound to help you if you used PayPal, most of the time the fraud protection issued by your credit card company can help get to the root of a problem. Remember, you credit card can even file a complaint with PayPal if PayPal won't do anything to help you, because, as far as the credit card is concerned, PayPal took your money. THey don't care what PayPal did with it, they just know that it was PayPal that billed you. Your bank can do the same. Your bank will be more likely to give you personal service, but your credit card company has more clout. Use both to your advantage.

If you paid by check, or money order issued by the bank, or by bank card (ATM/Debit Card) directly, the bank should get involved. My PayPal account ACCEPTS Credit/Debit cards. If someone were to pay me that way directly (not through "PayPal" funds), their bank or credit card company could come after me directly (if I tried to shank them). I have helped people get money back through PayPal this way.

STEP 2.
Inform the Authorities.

If you sent payment in any form, whether check, Money Order (Postal or other), cashier’s check, or cash (NEVER SEND CASH!!!) through the mail, file a complaint at your local post office. Here is a link to the mail fraud reporting form:
http://www.usps.com/forms/_pdf/ps8165.pdf

It is a federal crime (mail fraud), so they should know the drill. Get the manager of your local post office to give you the name of the post office that is local to the recipient (where HIS/HER mail gets routed through prior to delivery). Here is a link to the USPS Postal Inspectors' website:
http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/

Here is a link to the USPS web site. It has a "finder" feature to locate post offices anywhere, including contact information:
http://usps.com/

Call the endpoint post office and file a claim. Call the local police or sheriffs office and file a criminal complaint using the information from the postal complaint form. Local police numbers can be found through most Internet directories. I have found that http://www.anywho.com works the best for me. Most of the time, the post office can even give you that information. If not, your local police can do so.

STEP 3.
Involve the BIG DOGS.

Your next step is to go to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center website. The IFCC is located in my old hometown of Morgantown, WV (Go Mountaineers!!!).
IFCC is a joint venture between the FBI and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C) that is designed to cross the jurisdictional restrictions that internet commerce presents. They have broad jurisdiction AND enlist the assistance of local law enforcement to track down frauds and scams that are performed using the Internet as a media.
Here is a link to the website:
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
Internet Fraud Complaint Center Website.

On the left hand side is the fraud complaint process and the forms. They require copies of past correspondence and documentation, and will use this information to CRIMINALLY prosecute violators. This does not help you directly, as your claim will be civil (not criminal), but this makes it easier for you to recover your money, because restitution is often a component of sentencing in fraud cases.

These guys don't fool around. They jail people. They seize things, close accounts, freeze assets. They get the job done.

An additional resource for information related to the use of more formal complaint procedures is the National Fraud Information Center. ( http://www.fraud.org/welcome.htm) I have posted some of their tips at the very bottom of this post. Check them out for a better idea of what to look for on the 'net.
Here is their website: National Fraud Information Center (http://63.222.159.194/repoform.htm). On the site there are several useful tools to combat fraud, including their online incident reporting form, found here: National Fraud Information Center Online Incident Report Form and a link to more basic information related to internet fraud, found here: NFIC Internet Fraud Information. (http://www.fraud.org/internet/intinfo.htm)

EDIT: ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS-
If you attend a college or university, most have an office of legal services or something similar. I used to work for the one at West Virginia University when I was in grad school. Basically, we did everything that a normal law office does, including dealing with these matters. I was the one who dealt with Internet fraud, which is why I know what I know. I would find people and figure out how to serve them (in the legal sense), follow up with local law enforcement, and deal with banks, eBay, PayPal, whoever, all on the behalf of the students. We did free representation, and most universities offer this service to students. In know that a lot of schools do this, because when the scammer or @$$hole that screwed one of my clients over was a student somewhere else, I would usually just call the university and talk to their legal services department. I was surprised to see that most universities have either an office like where I worked OR had lawyers that volunteered to help on certain days of the week. This is an option for you guys to check out if you are in college.

Try the directory for entries of Legal Services, Legal Aid, Student Legal Aid, Student Legal Services, Student Counsel (not Council), or even try calling the law school (if your school has one). WVU had a law school, but my office was not linked to it (except that law students usually work there). If nothing else, try the offices of student life or student affairs. I hope that this helps.

Here is a link to the tips from the National Fraud Information Center:
GREAT TIPS FOR INTERNET TRANSACTIONS--- READ THESE!!!.
http://www.fraud.org/tips/internet/general.htm

Here is the text from the NFIC website regarding general tips for internet transactions:
(Note- the following is not my own work, but is instead taken from the website of the National Fraud Information Center, and is reproduced here for reference ONLY!)

[CuzzinOlaf]

Know who youre dealing with. If the seller or charity is unfamiliar, check with your state or local consumer protection agency and the Better Business Bureau. Some Web sites have feedback forums, which can provide useful information about other peoples experiences with particular sellers. Get the physical address and phone number in case there is a problem later.

Look for information about how complaints are handled. It can be difficult to resolve complaints, especially if the seller or charity is located in another country. Look on the Web site for information about programs the company or organization participates in that require it to meet standards for reliability and help to handle disputes.

Be aware that no complaints is no guarantee. Fraudulent operators open and close quickly, so the fact that no one has made a complaint yet doesn’t meant that the seller or charity is legitimate. You still need to look for other danger signs of fraud.

Dont believe promises of easy money. If someone claims that you can earn money with little or no work, get a loan or credit card even if you have bad credit, or make money on an investment with little or no risk, its probably a scam.

Understand the offer. A legitimate seller will give you all the details about the products or services, the total price, the delivery time, the refund and cancellation policies, and the terms of any warranty. For more information about shopping safely online, go to http://www.nclnet.org/shoppingonline.

Resist pressure. Legitimate companies and charities will be happy to give you time to make a decision. Its probably a scam if they demand that you act immediately or won’t take no for an answer.

Think twice before entering contests operated by unfamiliar companies. Fraudulent marketers sometimes use contest entry forms to identify potential victims.

Guard your personal information. Don’t provide your credit card or bank account number unless you are actually paying for something. Your social security number should not be necessary unless you are applying for credit. Be especially suspicious if someone claiming to be from a company with whom you have an account asks for information that the business already has.

Pay the safest way. Credit cards are the safest way to pay for online purchases because you can dispute the charges if you never get the goods or services or the offer was misrepresented. Federal law limits your liability to $50 if someone makes unauthorized charges to your account, and most credit card issuers will remove them completely if you report the problem promptly. There are new technologies, such as substitute credit card numbers and password programs, that can offer extra measures of protection from someone else using your credit card. For more information about paying safely online, go to http://www.nclnet.org/shoppingonline and http://www.nclnet.org/essentials/security.html.

Here it is:

Covering your own rear in an internet/ long distance transaction is vital. When answering an ad, get all information that you can about the seller. Be sure to read the instructions completely before acting in any way. The info that you need is as follows:

1. HOME phone number. It is easy to reverse trace, where a cell number is not. If you get a cell number, casually bring up the conversation of cell service. Is theirs good, what package and carrier? record and save the information both of home and cell.

2. Get the seller's street address and mailing address if different. (ask if it is the same). Record and save the information.

3. It is helpful to get the seller's work address and phone number through casual conversation. Record the information and save.

4. Find out the seller's internet provider. Hotmail accounts do not count. The conversation could go like this: "Can you e-mail me a picture of the part? Then again, my server is so crappy lately it is a wonder that I get any e-mail at all. Who do you have for service? is it as slow as _____? "
Record and save the information.

5. When sending payment, use a money order with enough room to put your name and address as well as the name and address of the seller. It is vital that you get a money order that allows you to put a description of what the money order is for. I use First Union Bank money orders because they have provisions for the above information. Keep a photocopy and receipt of the Money Order.

6. Send payment via usps and use delivery confirmation. This allows tracking the shipment. This way the perp cannot claim the funds were not received and provides proof of USPS involvement. Keep the receipt.

7. Keep a record of all phone calls (phone bills would be great), keep all e-mails and print them out in paper form as well as a backup disk.

8. Keep a record of the for sale ad location, and make a printed copy/disk backup.

It is vital that you follow the above steps. The information above will give you an iron tight case and all of the information will be put to good use if the need arises. The following information centers around what to do in case of being ripped off. Assuming that phone calls and e-mails are getting you nowhere, you must now be a private investigator for a day or two.....

1. Using the perp's address, do an internet search or whatever other means available, find out what law enforcement agency has jurisdiction over the perp's mailing/street address. record and save the information.

2. Find out what local law enforcement agency has jurisdiction over the location in which your first contact with the seller's ad took place from. Example: If you answered the ad from your computer at home, then the jurisdiction must cover your home address. Record and save the information.

3. Find out the perp's Internet Service Provider's page and contact
information, record and save.

4. Find out the perp's cell/home phone provider, contact information. Record
the information and save.

5. Find the address and contact information of the perp's local post office.
Record the information and save.

6. Call the seller's work location at a time that the perp cannot answer the work phone and find out who runs/owns the business. Record the information and save.

If all the above steps have been completed, Congrats!
You are ready to wage war.......When doing so, it will be most effective if the perp doesn't know that the war has started, It is essential that the complaints be filed all in the same day with reference to all other complaints. Example: The post office complaint should contain a reference to the FBI complaint, ISP complaint, etc......


Gather all related information including web pages and the negative thread, and file a report with:
a. the local agency that had jurisdiction over your first contact. IT IS IMPORTANT that all information in copy form be submitted to your local agency first. Be sure to include the perp's ISP provider, phone number, and the perp's local law enforcement agency that would pick him up. The local agency will take the report and forward to the perp's local agency for their dispatch of an officer.

b. The FBI internet fraud site http://www.ifccfbi.gov

c. The perp's ISP provider stating that the perp is using their service to commit internet fraud. Send via regular mail and e-mail.

d. The perp's phone service/ cell provider for using their service to commit internet fraud. Send via regular mail AND e-mail.

e. The US postal service for using the mail to commit mail/ internet fraud. Do two reports, one to your local office and one to the perp's office. Do both regular mail and internet e-mail.
http://www.usps.com

f. File a report with http://www.trollhunters.com

g. File a report with
http://www.fraud.org/info/contactnfic.htm

h. Send a complaint form copy to the work location of the perp that is addressed to the owner/manager. Make sure to include the phrase:
"While you do not have any control over this individual when he is not at work, you should make sure that internet fraud is not being committed by the perp using company equipment or company internet access."

i. Notify the perp and provide a list of all reports filed, that you have been forced to take action and that it is now completely out of your hands. The only way that proceedings can be dissolved is by the perp making restitution. Make it known that you gave him every chance, and now the authorities will take over. (at this point negotiating is pointless, the perp knows what to do.) End of discussion. Sometimes the most stubborn crook will do nothing until they get the knock at the door from the police. If that is what it takes, so be it.

What to do when dealing with a minor:

Everything above works fine, but additional work in the area of intelligence gathering is needed. Usually if all the above information is obtained, internet searches can usually point the way
to the parents. The parents are to be notified in the same manner as all the other agencies,
including copies of complaints to other agencies. It is important that you do not threaten a minor via e-mail or phone conversation. Leverage can be used, but to physically threaten with violence will affect your position when pressing charges.

edit: Also, do some looking around. Chances are the scammer didnt just scam you. Find people who have been scammed and work together. If you all file claims, email him and threathen to bring him to justice, chances are he will return the money or ship out the item.
:devil:

[YZ400EX]

WOW!!! That was super long..You had alot to say, but for the most part it was very educational and very informative..You should give all this write up to Harlen (site owner) so he can place this in its own section or somthing as a sticky, because this was very good info..if what I have done so far doesnt help me here shortly I will taking further steps..I had know Idea how much could be done..Thanks

[CuzzinOlaf]

Originally posted by YZ400EX
WOW!!! That was super long..You had alot to say, but for the most part it was very educational and very informative..You should give all this write up to Harlen (site owner) so he can place this in its own section or somthing as a sticky, because this was very good info..if what I have done so far doesnt help me here shortly I will taking further steps..I had know Idea how much could be done..Thanks

Ha yea its long but if one person gains something from it then it's worth the read.

I am new here and don't know Harlen or anyone else for that matter so if you want to send it to him be my guest. I just found this site from another ATV forum and whoever it was had nothing but good to say and this is one of the first threads I checked out.

I am gonna lurk around for a while but hopefully soon I will start posting if needed.

Thanks.

[250exer]

I looked at the sellers rating. He's only had feedback from 8 other people besides you and if I recall correctly only one of those was positive feedback for a SALE. The rest was for buying things which is a whole different deal. Leaving negative feedback is an important service to others as long as you're being fair (not questioning you).

I would steer clear of someone with little to no positive feedback on selling items. The other thing you want to look for is whether or not the seller has positive feedback for selling items similar to what you are considering buying. In other words, does he know the product. I have a 100% feedback rating from 127 different customers. Actually my user ID is HONDAATVER. Most of it from selling old toys. So someone can look at my feedback and deduce that they are likely to get what they are bidding on.

I have bought 10 or so items on Ebay with zero complaints. But as a seller, I feel I now know what to look for. I'll probably get zapped someday though.

You have gotten a lot of good advice on what to do once you have a problem, but obviously best to try to avoid it altogether.

Good luck with your situation.

[YZ400EX]

Yes I know how to read feedback and I know he didnt have much feedback for selling, but sometimes you have to give people a chance, but as you can tell not always a good idea..I have bought from people with 0 feedback and have not had any problems. Everyone has to start somewhere you know..This is really the only bad experience I have hod with buying anything and it not being usable at all..Some stuff I have bought wasnt exactly like it should be, but it was usable and that I can deal with, but this isnt even for anything he had listed it for..There was another buyer who purchased a set of nerf bars from him at the same time I did and I contacted him and the ones he bought were junk as well..I dont know if this guy knows anything about ATV's or just aquired some parts somewhere and decied to sell them, but either way you shouldnt sell something you dont even know what it is or what it is for and to top it off describe it incorrectly and misinforming. This guy is a joke. He doesnt even try and resolve an issue..This is another seller I would NEVER deal with again, but it will not detour me from dealing with others that have little feedback though..Like I said everyone has to start somewhere..I have been a member of Ebay for a very long time and for the most part have A+ feedback with the exception of a few stupid people leaving bad feedback for no apparent reason either because they didnt read an auction, posted by mistake or didnt give me payment info and expected me to be psychic and know where to send a payment without them telling me after asking many many times..Thats the only reason I dont have 100%..None of it was because I ripped anyone off or didnt pay for something I won..This guy knowingly listed something and tried ripping people off..I gave him a chance and he blew it..

[clutt225]

Thanks dude, I am not shure but I think I may have or was going to bid on those. They look like the ones I was looking at. But anyway sorry for your luck. I spent a pile of $$ in feb. on ebay the only thing I was not happy with was a stabilizer. The seller listed the new retail price as the value. It got hit at the border and the brokerage fees were more than I paid for the part.

[YZ400EX]

Got everything figured out..Guy sent me back all my money and some to ship back..worked out good..Just glad I got my money back..

[250R-Dee]

It's good to hear things worked out for you. Did you leave him a feedback? If you didn't I would advise against leaving a negative feedback because he will probably do the same just to spite you. Leave him a NEUTRAL feedback and say the situation was resolved. Believe it or not this will still alert other buyers if they bother to read his feedbacks.

[YZ400EX]

He left me good feedback after I paid him and I gave him many weeks to respond to my emails and he never did so bad feedback was left. He finally got back to me when I had to contact paypal and scare the crap out of him. finally he wrote me back and gave me my money back..

[250R-Dee]

Cool! You got your money back and he got the negative feedback that he deserves!!

[YZ400EX]

Originally posted by TRX250RJapan
Cool! You got your money back and he got the negative feedback that he deserves!!

Thats what I was thinking as well..I really appreciate all the info everyone has given me though just in case this happens again sometime..Thanks