STi or Evo

[Butters]

Which one would you rather have the 2005 Subaru WRX STi or the 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution??

[FourFiftyFour]

THE SUBARU BABY!!!!!!!!

[PBlackmon]

Me personally, I wouldn't take either of them, I'd rather have a truck. But everyone has their own opinion. That's what makes the world go 'round. If I had to choose I would go with the Subaru.

EVO VIII

[bansheeguy77]

i love the sti :D

[Mxjunkie]

My friend just got a sti i hear its a bad little car

[Butters]

the specs on both of these cars is amazing i think. they make great rally cars.

[Cody_300ex]

STI, I just don't like mitsu's quality. :ermm:

[Butters]

Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
STI, I just don't like mitsu's quality. :ermm:


yeah i read somewhere that mitsubishi has been having problems with cars and the quality of them. i know thier eclipses were affected but i don't know about anything else.

[Screamin440]

The STi has a tranny made of glass

[Syrus]

STI, cause turbo subaru's are amazing, but the EVO IIV id love to have also.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Screamin440
The STi has a tranny made of glass


what do you mean??

[WhiteZee]

you can definalty tell this isnt a car site....the STI is winning, lol.

[Butters]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
you can definalty tell this isnt a car site....the STI is winning, lol.


according to car & driver the sti has better handleing.

[Dale512]

Anybody that knows anything about cars would know that the Subaru is the way to go and that Mitsubishi quality is down the drain, they do all this advertising about how great their warranty is, yet try getting them to actually honor it. I wouldnt touch a Mitsubishi right now, I don't expect them to be around much longer, having lots of financial difficulties and they just keep digging theirselves deeper.

[DAB516]

Originally posted by Butters
yeah i read somewhere that mitsubishi has been having problems with cars and the quality of them. i know thier eclipses were affected but i don't know about anything else.

Definitly nothing wrong with the Eclipses and they do make quality cars What they lack in is customers service.

[DAB516]

You can definitly tell this is not a car website. They both are very similar but I've personally been to a Evo/STi drag race session and the Evo won almost every race and they murder the STi in the turns. Not to mention over in Europe they sell a version that is faster than a Lambo Muricilargo( bad spelling) for 1/4 the price of the lambo.

[LazeR]

Subaru Impreza WRX STi for SURE! I like the looks a lil better, with the same driver in each car (test driver) the wrx is .02 of a second slower from 0-60 but 0-60 in 4.92 seconds aint bad ;)

drools i want a subbie so bad :( RALLY!

[Jon98]

i have gotten to play around with a new evo, and they are a ton of fun (and im an old school v8 rwd kinda guy).

However, given equal prices, i would have to pick the sti caus its got a bigger motor, and i am pretty sure runs lower boost (more room to bump up the boost) + a 6 speed. compared to the smaller evo motor, higher boost (i think), 5 speed.

by what i know on paper, sti seems better. but paper numbers aren't always best...

Jon

[Dale512]

The STI is definately faster in the 1/4 than the EVO, the EVO handles ever so slightly better...it will not slaughter the STI in turns as you say. Personally I think the STI looks better and is better quality. (Tranny being the exception, very weak.)

PS. Most of don't live in Europe.:rolleyes:

[xsr_racing28c]

all you guys that are sayin **** about the EVO have obviously never driven one...lol.. it's funny cuz you all read the mag articles, but havn't had any real life expierience with them, and thats what matters. my buddy has an EVO and i drive it all the time, and by the way, i have never lost to an Sti in a drag race.... the EVO is an amazing car, and handling is awesome in this car...

and to whoever was talkin about boost, yes the Sti does run lower boost, but it also has .5L more in motor size, so therefore less boost is fine.. and the EVO does come in a 6-speed version, called the MR... ( nice car by the way, was with my buddy when we test drove one)... idk, EVO all the way for me... just more practical, i mean the Sti doesn't even come with a radio or AC standard.. but every one has a right to there own opinion

[Syrus]

Originally posted by DAB516
You can definitly tell this is not a car website. They both are very similar but I've personally been to a Evo/STi drag race session and the Evo won almost every race and they murder the STi in the turns. Not to mention over in Europe they sell a version that is faster than a Lambo Muricilargo( bad spelling) for 1/4 the price of the lambo.

No ****, thats why its called "ATVRiders.com" ? .. But anyhow, the Evo does not murder the STI in anyway, ive got buddies with both cars, they are very simular. I just like the STI style better because the EVO is so small.

P.S. the reason the Europe version EVO is faster than a lambo is becuase its obviously not stock at all. They come pre-modded from factory, and they do a good job on it aswell. Just about everything is upgraded to the highest standards.

[Supraman]

aAlright heres some info for you guys:

2003: Automobile Magazine car of the year: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution

2004 and 2005 Sports Compact Car of the year: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8

2004 sports compact car: 100 best compact cars of all time: #1 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution

Car and Driver February 2005, 05 Evo MR vs. STI, they pick the evo again for the second year in a row being the best car.

05 EVO: 0 to 60- 4.8, 0 to 100-12.5, 1/4-13.6, braking 0 to 70,-157ft., 1.88 mile road course-1:38.88, 300ft. skidpad-0.93, lane change mph.-68.3~~~~~Car and Driver February 2005

05 STI: 0 to 60- 4.9, 0 to 100- 13.1, 1/4- 13.4, braking 0 to 70,-157ft., 1.88 mile road course-1:39.15, 300ft skidpad-0.92, lane change mph-65.9~~~~~Car and Driver February 2005

LINKS:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0307scc_stievo/

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=592&page_number=6

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0410_evowrx/index8.html

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0410_evowrx/index9.html

http://www.autofan.com/newsdetail.asp?id=1002


Heres the 100 best sports compact cars of all time list:
100. 1975-'76 Chevrolet Cosworth Vega
99. 1984-'87 Peogeot 205 GTi
98. 1999-Present Mazda Miata MX-5
97. 1992-'93 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T
96. 1987 Dodge Charger GLH-S
95. 1978-'81 Toyota Celica
94. 1992- '96 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
93. 1994-'97 Toyota Celica GT-Four
92. 1994-'00 Mitsubishi FTO
91. 1992-'94 Mazda Familia GT-R
90. 1980-'86 Renault R5 Turbo
89. 1992-'01 Subaru Impreza WRX
88. 2002-Present Honda Civic Type-R
87. 2000-Present Toyota Celica GT-S
86. 1986-'91 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
85. 1967-'72 Mazda Cosmo Sport
84. 1973-'74 Toyota Corolla SR5
83. 1954- '64 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe
82. 1986- '89 Dodge Conquest Turbo
81. 1986-'89 Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
80. 1990-'94 Eagle Talon TSi
79. 1998-'01 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
78. 2000-Present Toyota MR2 Spyder
77. 2003-Present Hyundai Tiburon
76. 2001-Present Lexus IS300
75. 2002-Present Acura RSX Type-S
74. 1984-'86 Dodge Omni GLH
73. 1987 Dodge Omni GLH-S
72. 1992-'95 Honda Civic Si
71. 2002-Present Honda NSX Type-R
70. 2002-Present Honda Integra Type-R
69. 1971-'73 Ford Escort Mexico
68. 1985 Ford RS200
67. 1986-'94 Lancia Delta Integrale
66. 1996-'01 Audi A4
65. 1972-'78 Mazda RX-3
64. 1990-'99 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4
63. 1991-'96 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
62. 1985-'88 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V
61. 1991-'93 Toyota Celica ALL-TRAC
60. 1995-'99 BMW M3
59. 1995-'98 Nissan 240SX
58. 1963-'66 Ford Cortina Lotus Mark I
57. 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR4
56. 1995-'01 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33)
55. 1999-'00 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI
54. 2000-Present Renault Clio V6
53. 1996-'97 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV
52. 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution I
51. 1962-'73 Lotus Elan
50. 1985-'87 Honda CRX Si
49. 1989-'93 Nissan 240SX
48. 1971-'74 BMW 2002 Tii
47. 1987-'92 Toyota Supra Turbo
46. 2002-'04 Ford SVT Focus
45. 1970-'72 Mazda R100
44. 1991-'95 Toyota MR2 Turbo
43. 2004-Present Volkswagen R32
42. 1992-'94 Volkswagen Corrado SLC
41. 2003-Present Infiniti G35 Coupe
40. 1993-'96 Honda Prelude VTEC
39. 1997-'01 Honda Prelude Type SH
38. 1987-'93 Volkswagen Golf GTi
37. 1999-'01 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)
36. 1988-'91 BMW M3
35. 1974-'75 Lancia Stratos
34. 1990 Mazda Miata MX-5
33. 2004-Present Lotus Elise
32. 2000-Present Honda S2000
31. 1978-'85 Mazda RX-7
30. 1992-'93 Acura Integra GS-R
29. 2002-Present Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC V
28. 1991-'94 Nissan Sentra SE-R
27. 1988-'91 Honda CRX Si
26. 1982-'85 Toyota Celica Supra
25. 1971-'77 Toyota Celica
24. 1988-'89 Toyota Celica
23. 1988-'89 Mazda 323 GTX
22. 1999-'03 Nissan Silvia (S15)
21. 1999-'00 Honda Civic Si
20. 1967-'69 Toyota 2000GT
19. 1993-'96 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
18. 1990-'94 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
17. 2004-Present Mazda RX-8
16. 2003-Present Dodge Neon SRT-4
15. 1990-Present Acura NSX
14. 1970-'73 Datsun 240Z
13. 1990-'96 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo
12. 2003-Present Subaru Impreza WRX STi
11. 2003-Present Nissan 350Z
10. 1985-'87 Toyota Corolla GT-S
9. 1968-'73 Datsun 510
8. 1962-'03 Austin Mini Cooper
7. 1990-'94 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32)
6. 1994-'98 Toyota Supra Turbo
5. 1975-'85 Volkswagen GTi
4. 1997-'01 Acura Integra Type-R
3. 2002-Present Subaru Impreza WRX
2. 1992-'95 Honda Civic
1. 2003-Present Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII


Oh yea and the EVO has the better warranty:

Evo Basic warranty 5 yrs/60,000 miles, STI -3 yrs/36,000 miles
Powertrain warranty EVO 10 yrs/100,000 miles, STI- 5 yrs/60,000 miles
Roadside assist period EVO 3 yrs/36,000 miles, STI- 3 yrs/36,000 miles

[Dale512]

Try getting Mitsubishi to honor that warranty though.

[Supraman]

Originally posted by Dale512
Try getting Mitsubishi to honor that warranty though.

You can say the same thing with Subaru, on the STI forums there complaining just as much as the EVO drivers. I own a 2003 White evo, i have a k&n intake, ecu reflash, greddy type s bov, boost controller held at 20 psi to redline, and hks carbon-TI catback exhaust and ive never had a problem with any warranty work or service. I guess it all depends which dealer you bring it to but i talked to a guy who has a 04 STI and he said that the STI's were having a lot of warranty issues too, with modding, illegal racing etc....a guy that i talk to on the evolution.m forums is trying to sue mitsubishi cuz he claims that they voided his warranty before they even looked at the car because he raced his evo at great lakes dragstrip. I guess someone who works for a local mitsubishi dealership took down his plate number, and 3 months later the driver came in with a shot tranny and mitsubishi refused to look at it because of the racing claim against him. But when ur dealing with 300 horsepower rally cars with all wheel drive and wings that come 10 inchs off the car what do u expect, they'll look for anyway to stiff u with a 3,000$ tranny bill

[fasterz]

yea and mitsu check the tracks to see whos cars were run and if you ran it they take away your warenttee

[Dale512]

Yeah, warranty is mostly dealer related. Both good cars, just STI is my personal preference...thats why I have one.

[Supraman]

Do u have any mods done to ur STI, and what color is it?? I must say even thou i own an evo, i still love the STI.

[DEAL]

anyone who says the Sti knows nothing about rally cars .. I know it may be personal opinion .. but the Evo is just as quick and handles 100 times better .. might be why it was sport compact magazines car of the year?
It seems every shootout I read in the mags between the 2 the Evo is head and shoulders above the Sti every time.
Oh yeah .. and I work at a subaru Dealership.

[DEAL]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
all you guys that are sayin **** about the EVO have obviously never driven one...lol.. it's funny cuz you all read the mag articles, but havn't had any real life expierience with them, and thats what matters. my buddy has an EVO and i drive it all the time, and by the way, i have never lost to an Sti in a drag race.... the EVO is an amazing car, and handling is awesome in this car...

and to whoever was talkin about boost, yes the Sti does run lower boost, but it also has .5L more in motor size, so therefore less boost is fine.. and the EVO does come in a 6-speed version, called the MR... ( nice car by the way, was with my buddy when we test drove one)... idk, EVO all the way for me... just more practical, i mean the Sti doesn't even come with a radio or AC standard.. but every one has a right to there own opinion

What the hell are you talking about .. every STI I have seen comes with a radio and AC. STANDARD.

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by CDaleChick
THE SUBARU BABY!!!!!!!!


OH GO DRIVE YOUR TOYOTA!!!:D OH WHAT A FEELING!!!



SUBLUE:chinese:

[Lgnrider424]

evo b\c it comes with a radio, sti's dont, you have pay alot extra for one

[Cody_300ex]

I still would rather have the subaru over the mitsu. :ermm:

[xsr_racing28c]

sorry but i didn't specify that the 03-04 models didn't come with ac or a radio standard but now they offer these standard but the msrp is a couple grand more.... and the boost is lower due to the fact that they don't need to put as much boost into the car with the bigger motor, and plus that intercooler on the Sti is a bit smaller than the EVO and can't hold as much boost...

[Dale512]

Supraman. Its a Blue 04. I have so much money into it that I've lost count. I'm currently running high 9 seconds in the quarter mile on Street tires.

I must say as much as I like the EVO, nearly everybody I know around me that has one has had atleast one major mechanical malfunction, but that could be the way they drive and take care of their cars. Most of the "car guys" around here are complete morons and don't even deserve to own a Cavalier.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Dale512
Supraman. Its a Blue 04. I have so much money into it that I've lost count. I'm currently running high 9 seconds in the quarter mile on Street tires.

I must say as much as I like the EVO, nearly everybody I know around me that has one has had atleast one major mechanical malfunction, but that could be the way they drive and take care of their cars. Most of the "car guys" around here are complete morons and don't even deserve to own a Cavalier.


dang you are runnin 9's :eek2: :eek2: thats awesome

[FourFiftyFour]

Originally posted by sharkinthepool
OH GO DRIVE YOUR TOYOTA!!!:D OH WHAT A FEELING!!!



SUBLUE:chinese:

in a few years i might be adding a subaru sti to my collection.. gotta start making the money when i start my career in a year or so

[Supraman]

Originally posted by Dale512
Supraman. Its a Blue 04. I have so much money into it that I've lost count. I'm currently running high 9 seconds in the quarter mile on Street tires.

I must say as much as I like the EVO, nearly everybody I know around me that has one has had atleast one major mechanical malfunction, but that could be the way they drive and take care of their cars. Most of the "car guys" around here are complete morons and don't even deserve to own a Cavalier.

Wow dude thats awesome, congrats, its good to see someone put that cars potential to use. It has to be one of the fastest STI's in the Untied States.

[Dale512]

One thing I can definately say is that aftermarket parts are far cheaper for the EVO than the STI, but theres so many more EVOs out on the road than STIs.

Supraman, thanks for the compliments. I'll try to get some pictures of the engine bay for you, since other than that it looks bone stock from the outside.

I hope to be hitting up some of the bigger races with it this year.

I also have a Dodge SRT4 project. I havent had a chance to get it to the track in its current state, the same state its been in since the end of summer, did get to dyno it though. Pulled 448HP and 431ft/lb Torque on Pump Gas. It's been a busy last few months, but I should have an abundance of free time coming up to play with the cars.

[NTPracing22]

both cars are awesome. In NH it's all STi's, there's hardly as many Evos. I've never driven either, but I'd been in the STi and ridden in it. In my eyes, your spending 30 grand on an engine. It feels and sounds like a tin can on wheels.

If you want something in that price range, find a 98-2001 B5 Audi A4 quattro, put a K04 upgrade on it and for about 10grand less then getting one of those two cars, you will have a crazy fast car.

Just my .02, but then again I'm a german car freak :eek2:

[Dale512]

The STI and EVO are kinda considered the Japanese muscle cars, their not supposed to super refined.

[Butters]

i have seen regular lancers before but i have never seen a evo driving on the street. but then again i don't seen many sti's, but i do sometimes see them.

[xsr_racing28c]

hey Dale, put a list of mods on here, cuz i only know of one other wrx/sti that runs in the 9's and it is the ESX conversion one... but that kit costs around $30,000 just for the motor upgrade.. let us know

[gun32boarder]

Originally posted by Dale512
Supraman. Its a Blue 04. I have so much money into it that I've lost count. I'm currently running high 9 seconds in the quarter mile on Street tires.

I must say as much as I like the EVO, nearly everybody I know around me that has one has had atleast one major mechanical malfunction, but that could be the way they drive and take care of their cars. Most of the "car guys" around here are complete morons and don't even deserve to own a Cavalier.

id like to see a time slip. if its true :eek2:

[DEAL]

Originally posted by NTPracing22
both cars are awesome. In NH it's all STi's, there's hardly as many Evos. I've never driven either, but I'd been in the STi and ridden in it. In my eyes, your spending 30 grand on an engine. It feels and sounds like a tin can on wheels.

If you want something in that price range, find a 98-2001 B5 Audi A4 quattro, put a K04 upgrade on it and for about 10grand less then getting one of those two cars, you will have a crazy fast car.

Just my .02, but then again I'm a german car freak :eek2:


what about an S4?

[NTPracing22]

Originally posted by DEAL
what about an S4?

Buy and S4 if you want to be under the hood all the time. Those cars' aren't road worthy at all.

Actually, it was audi's most unreliable car. Somtimes one turbo is better then two.

[NTPRacing#19]

buy an r32 aint that right wes. those things haul arse like you read about

[DEAL]

Originally posted by NTPracing22
Buy and S4 if you want to be under the hood all the time. Those cars' aren't road worthy at all.

Actually, it was audi's most unreliable car. Somtimes one turbo is better then two.


Your trying to tell me this when I have never seen any 98 or newer audi in for any type of motor work .. just services and the odd brake job...
and yes .. again .. I work at an audi dealership.
But yet ..in the last week I've seen 6 subarus in for motor jobs.

[thunderwolf]

SRT-4 with stage 2 or 3 turbo kit from Dodge.

[trick450r]

Originally posted by NTPRacing#19
buy an r32 aint that right wes. those things haul arse like you read about

hell yes...i have an 84' vw rabbit GTI...i see its #5 on that list.......im not surprised....oh by the way...i'll take the STI

[NTPracing22]

Originally posted by DEAL
Your trying to tell me this when I have never seen any 98 or newer audi in for any type of motor work .. just services and the odd brake job...
and yes .. again .. I work at an audi dealership.
But yet ..in the last week I've seen 6 subarus in for motor jobs.

who bring thier audi into a dealership to get a motor job?

They bring thier audis to places like Force 5, and TJM/ Northern Euopean Automotive ect...

[DEAL]

Originally posted by NTPracing22
who bring thier audi into a dealership to get a motor job?

They bring thier audis to places like Force 5, and TJM/ Northern Euopean Automotive ect...

this is CANADA.

[NTPracing22]

Yeah thats true, Canadians do have thier own way of doing things...

[Butters]

Originally posted by thunderwolf
SRT-4 with stage 2 or 3 turbo kit from Dodge.


yeah if it weren't for this being a "neon" this would be a bad little car.

[NTPracing22]

yeah they are pretty sweet cars, but like you said, at the end of the day your still driving a neon.

What do you guys think of the new Cobalt SS?

[xsr_racing28c]

the neons can be somewhat quick from a rolling start, but at the track, the motor overpowers the front wheels and the car gets loose to easy... i know of a guy by me that has an Srt-4 with a stage 2 turbo kit, full turbo back exhaust and some other work done to the car( ecu etc..) and he still runs low 14's and maybe might have broken in to the high high 13's ... but without sometype of drag radial or suspension work, its hard to get a front wheel drive car to stay glued to the road... in my mind it kinda worthless to have one but thats just my opinion..

Hey Dale, whats up with the STi that runs 9's?? are we gonna get to see some pics and mods or what?? i don't think many on here believe you, so it would be to your advantage to prove them wrong if you can... Its just very hard to believe that you can get an STi to run 9's on street tires, seeing that i can spin the tires in first, second and third, on an EVO... and theres no room for slippage in a 9 second run.. and with pump gas, that means your running a lower compression, in turn, your not gonna be able to hold high boost, and or high hp.. so just list some stuff done to it and get up some pics...

[Butters]

i think the cobalt ss looks like a pretty cool car. i heard its supposed to be alot better than the old cavaliers which it replaced, but i don't know how well its going to compete with the srt-4. if dodge would ditch the neon and redesign the car i would consider one.

[NTPracing22]

Originally posted by Butters
i think the cobalt ss looks like a pretty cool car. i heard its supposed to be alot better than the old cavaliers which it replaced, but i don't know how well its going to compete with the srt-4. if dodge would ditch the neon and redesign the car i would consider one.

Yeah I hear ya.

I don't know how the power situation on the SS will be, you don't see many supercharged 4 bangers for a reason. The super charger robs more power to make power then the 4's can deal with (usually). It'll be interesting to see how it is

[gun32boarder]

come on dale lets see this time slip :rolleyes:

[xsr_racing28c]

Originally posted by gun32boarder
come on dale lets see this time slip :rolleyes:



he was post happy, until people who actually know about cars showed up...:)

[Supraman]

TIME SLIP TIME SLIP!!! :eek2: :rolleyes:

[Dale512]

I'm still here, I do have a life ya know.:rolleyes:

I'll get the time slips & pics posted sometime this week when I go over my buddies house since I don't have a scanner.

[xsr_racing28c]

well since we are waitin for the pics and stuff, why don't you post the mod list...be specific

[Butters]

i thought the cobalt put out like 225hp. maybe i'm wrong. oh and i am talking about the ss.

[Toadz400]

I've always been a hardcore Subaru fan, only Japanese car I'd ever buy.

We have a few Subaru GL Hatchback's from the 80's, two of them have 4WD and they are a BLAST to race in the woods. I swear I can go faster in my woods in my '87 Subaru 1.8L then my 400ex or Banshee...I love that thing to death:D .

[xsr_racing28c]

Originally posted by Toadz400
I've always been a hardcore Subaru fan, only Japanese car I'd ever buy.

We have a few Subaru GL Hatchback's from the 80's, two of them have 4WD and they are a BLAST to race in the woods. I swear I can go faster in my woods in my '87 Subaru 1.8L then my 400ex or Banshee...I love that thing to death:D .

I am not 100% sure, but i don't think Subaru is a Japanese car

[bansheeguy77]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
I am not 100% sure, but i don't think Subaru is a Japanese car

glad your not 100% sure....because you are wrong, they are japanese ;)

[xsr_racing28c]

lol ...sorry just a quick reply and wasn't thinkin..my bad

[Supraman]

so how about them time slips???

[dober250R]

i'm with ^^^^^^^^^^^ I want to see time slips!!!! If it smells like bull****, it usually is!!

[Honda4trax250x]

Some rich spoiled kid in my school got a VW GTI bought for him last year, about a month ago he crashed it street racing, and now his parents bought him an STI.

wtf? i hate spoiled kids:mad:

[Supraman]

Originally posted by dober250R
i'm with ^^^^^^^^^^^ I want to see time slips!!!! If it smells like bull****, it usually is!!


Agreed!!!!!!

[xsr_racing28c]

well its' been a week and a couple days Dale512, i take it your searches on the net for a 9 second time slip have come up with no results!! if you get ahold of something, give us a shout

[gun32boarder]

Originally posted by Honda4trax250x
Some rich spoiled kid in my school got a VW GTI bought for him last year, about a month ago he crashed it street racing, and now his parents bought him an STI.

wtf? i hate spoiled kids:mad:

i know you wouldnt be complaining if that was you, im shure you bought you car. i bought my car but i know forshure i would complain one bit if my rents bought me a sti