GTO or Mustang

[Butters]

which would you guys rather own??? i read in car and driver a couple months ago how they GTO had better power and it kinda shocked me. i would rather have a new GTO cause i think they look better than the new Mustang.

[nosliw]

definately gto

[EPDP99]

what a dumb question. Blue oval for sure!!!!

[Butters]

Originally posted by EPDP99
what a dumb question. Blue oval for sure!!!!

i like the mustang i think the the GTO looks more like a sleeper.

[Honda4trax250x]

GTO, just to be different. Why would I want a "me too" car?

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by EPDP99
what a dumb question. Blue oval for sure!!!!

[Quad18star]

I'd take the Mustang GT ... then the GTO ... then the soon to be released Charger . :devil:

[Chef]

GTO just to be different? It looks like every other Pontiac...and the charger doesnt look different either. Atleast the Mustang actually looks how its roots did.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Chef
GTO just to be different? It looks like every other Pontiac...and the charger doesnt look different either. Atleast the Mustang actually looks how its roots did.

Im liking the new looks of the Charger .... looks very simular to the Chrysler 300 .... which is a style of car that has grown on me . :D

http://moparmusclemagazine.com/featuredvehicles/155_0501w_charger_lead_z.jpg

[alimdar2times]

Originally posted by Chef
GTO just to be different? It looks like every other Pontiac..


Actually, I think the GTO looks like a fat Cavalier, and trust me, that's not a compliment!

I'd take the Mustang GT, hands-down!

[exatak199]

Goat for sure! the new '05 are far out! corvette power but alot cheeper. the new rustang's (opps i ment mustangs) look even fugglyer than the old ones did (which were pretty bad) and the power isnt that great.

my only Q is when will they come to canada? :huh

[dpizz450]

Originally posted by Honda4trax250x
GTO, just to be different. Why would I want a "me too" car?

i kno man. there is like 7 stangs at my school. i can't stand them personally.

[LazeR]

'05 Mustang Saleen s281 ;)

[ride_a_400]

def GTO wouldn't even consider the mustang

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by EPDP99
what a dumb question. Blue oval for sure!!!!


I dont care what year, I do not care what model if is not a pony (or a snake) is worth owning? NO!

I would take my 1966 shelby over any of them. That goes for the new ones as well. If is not a pony, forget it. To easy to mod! To easy to work on!

I had a Pontiac:rolleyes: , talk about a hunk a sheeeeeeeee:mad: That will never happen agian.

[EPDP99]

like this s-281??

[EPDP99]

or this one??

[EPDP99]

and the motor

[YLW400]

I have heard the GTO's finish work is crappy....

[dead eye 00]

my dad just bought a yellow 05 mustang gt and it has to be the nicest car i have ever ridden.the interior looks like it is out of a forty thousand dollar car.as for the way it runs it's no slouch.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by exatak199
Goat for sure! the new '05 are far out! corvette power but alot cheeper. the new rustang's (opps i ment mustangs) look even fugglyer than the old ones did (which were pretty bad) and the power isnt that great.

my only Q is when will they come to canada? :huh

I was at an auto show this weekend , and was talking to a guy I know that owns a dealership , he said don't expect to see the GTO here in Canada until 2007 . :ermm:

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by EPDP99
and the motor

No but the red one beside it, under the tent:devil: Is exactly like mine!!!

[user101]

mustang

[Butters]

Originally posted by YLW400
I have heard the GTO's finish work is crappy....

i don't know what exactly you mean by this but i thought the interior is really cool looking. its got cool race accents which i liked.

[Thump_It]

Originally posted by sharkinthepool
No but the red one beside it, under the tent:devil: Is exactly like mine!!!


I'll trade you my R, truck, dog and ol' lady for your car. Haha, those old 2+2 Mustangs were the best styled Stangs to this date. I like the new ones, and I really like the Saleens. Anyways, think about that offer, lol.

[GW_400ex]

GTO

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by Thump_It
I'll trade you my R, truck, dog and ol' lady for your car. Haha, those old 2+2 Mustangs were the best styled Stangs to this date. I like the new ones, and I really like the Saleens. Anyways, think about that offer, lol.

Your Ol'Lady had better be :devil: Jenna Jameson:devil: HAHA. Then I would think about it!:D Mine has 63,000 on it. My buddy's is a Hertz Gt350H with 6,000 on it. It is smokin bad!!!:eek2: I have never had mine appraised but he has. He would take 125K for his!

[clarkymckrash]

i love the new saleens,cant wait to see what the svt cobra looks like:eek2:

[enduro400rider]

I would go with the GTO i hate it when people say " oh thats not a real GTO its just a V 8 Grand prix" the original GTO was based of a La mans witch is what the Grand Prix is today and they just put a big HO V8 in it back then so i think it goes back to its roots some what. I have read that the GTO will easily take a New mustang GT the new Ram air one that is coming out is sopossed to be even faster i have ridin in an 04 GTO and they deffenatly go

[YLW400]

I'm just going off of what I heard, dude

[LazeR]

Originally posted by EPDP99
like this s-281??

exactly **drools** lol i don't know if i like the older one or newer one better :ermm:

[Honda4trax250x]

the saleen and this are the only new stangs I would take over the GTO





2007 Cobra Baby!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pmdemas/4ff6.jpg

[TheFontMaster]

The new GTO's suck. They are too heavy, and are just re-badged cars from australia, I think it's Australia.

Here is a real GTO
http://www.motorimania.it/manifestazioni/sportive/pontiac/images/Pontiac.Gto.Judge_1.jpg

If you get a GTO thats what you want.

Mustang all the way!!!

[PHAT400]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/deno346/mason091.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/deno346/mason093.jpg

[Out_Sider]

the new gto's are quicker than the mustangs, but look at the gto.. they look just like all the other pontiacs pretty boring, the mustang has style the gto is just a plain car

[quadman440ex]

I would take the new Mustang GT and my dad's 66' Goat. The new GTO's are fast but they look like all the other new Pontiac cars.

[exatak199]

Originally posted by Quad18star
I was at an auto show this weekend , and was talking to a guy I know that owns a dealership , he said don't expect to see the GTO here in Canada until 2007 . :ermm:

well 2007 is better than never:blah:

[Butters]

Originally posted by Out_Sider
the new gto's are quicker than the mustangs, but look at the gto.. they look just like all the other pontiacs pretty boring, the mustang has style the gto is just a plain car


i think that is why i like them more cause they look like the g6, so you don't really at a glance know what it is.

[Cody_300ex]

I got black marks that proves the new GTO's power. :) My buddy just bought one a few weeks ago and this damn this HAULS. He's already got flowmasters, and is ordering a cam, chip and few other lil things. :cool: I'll try to get some pics.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
I got black marks that proves the new GTO's power. :) My buddy just bought one a few weeks ago and this damn this HAULS. He's already got flowmasters, and is ordering a cam, chip and few other lil things. :cool: I'll try to get some pics.

sounds good!...........

[Syrus]

My dad gets his '05 GT Mustang in march, ill get pics, and lots of pics of it. My dads a stang fanatic, we've had over 15 stangs now, still got a 5.0L in the garage MINT. :D

[Chef]

Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
I got black marks that proves the new GTO's power. :) My buddy just bought one a few weeks ago and this damn this HAULS. He's already got flowmasters, and is ordering a cam, chip and few other lil things. :cool: I'll try to get some pics.

Heh, If blackmarks is all it takes to show somethings fast, our golf cart is a rocketship!

[LazeR]

Originally posted by Chef
Heh, If blackmarks is all it takes to show somethings fast, our golf cart is a rocketship!

maybe its just cause im tired, but that was hella funny! Is your golf cart as sweet as your quads ? :confused:

[Angus350]

the gto is a rebaged monaro from here in australia

australian monaro, rebaged to a pontiac gto by general motors

[CRE Performance]

Mustang all the way. Always have been, always will.

[CRE Performance]

Heres one I built for a customer.....590 HP, pump gas, Overdrive auto, 4 wheel disk, A/C, P/S. Fast beeotch.:D

[CRE Performance]

396 ci windsor, TFS high ports.

[Syrus]

I like that stang, but i do not like the newer rims, should get a pair of cobra or shelby rims, or some nice bullet rims. Any older rims would look trick of that. I love the hood tho.

[Matt37]

I do agree that the new GTO is to plain looking but GM is trying to make it more interesting with the addition of the hood scoops and the wing on the 05's. And in the next 2 years there coming out wit the Judge version of the GTO and it will have 450 HP i believe with the judge graphics kit. I have a 69 Judge and i think that would be cool if i had a new judge and an old one hopefully GM will really come out with that right now it is all speculation. As for the mustang hopefully they will continue to make the mustang better because since the early 80's ford has done nothing with the mustang in my opinion. I mean the 5.0 are POS's that high school kids buy to beat the crap out of in my opinion and some of the other mustang body styles in the past were :eek2:

[Butters]

no doubt i like mustangs (especially older ones). i just like how the GTO is plain like everyone is saying.

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by Chef
Heh, If blackmarks is all it takes to show somethings fast, our golf cart is a rocketship!

lol, I guess my lawnmower is too. Nice comeback by the way! ;)

[Butters]

Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
lol, I guess my lawnmower is too. Nice comeback by the way! ;)


i wish i had a lawnmower that could make blackmarks. anyone know of any sites for racing lawn mowers. i always wanted to make one.

[Got nads?]

anybody can buy a mustang, go for the GTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[user101]

Originally posted by Out_Sider
the new gto's are quicker than the mustangs

id hope they'd be quicker. the gto's have a 350 while the mustangs only have a 281..thats bout like saying the raptor is better than a 400ex because its quicker

[Scott-300ex]

i hate 350's, everybody and their mama has one, i don't think of them as power at all, i think they are just to go from one place to another

also, i dought they have 350's in such a new car with it bein an 05 but i don't know

and don't tell me you think bigger displacement=faster cuz it dosen't, i could go on about how and why but i don't have that kind of time. the mustang has overhead cams. dual? i don't know but our mach 1 has duals and it is fast, and my 5.0 could take and has taken 350's easy

just sayin:p

[Scott-300ex]

oh yeah, my friend was looking at a GTO on the internet, im like why you looking at a neon


so a GTO looks like a neon to me

[nacs400ex]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
i hate 350's, everybody and their mama has one, i don't think of them as power at all

What everyone an their mama has a 350? Are you sure you dont mean everyone and their mama has a mustang ? My s10 with a 350, sure gives mustangs a run for their money.
Yes, their are fast stangs out there, but their just like 400ex's.

The new mustangs are pretty mean looking and the new GTO is just a dissapointment, here I thought they were going to bring the GTO name some justice. But just an australian version of the grandprix. GM let me down on that one.

[Syrus]

Originally posted by Out_Sider
the new gto's are quicker than the mustangs, but look at the gto.. they look just like all the other pontiacs pretty boring, the mustang has style the gto is just a plain car

Shows how much you know. They run the exact same 1/4 mile, 13.3 for the GTO 13.6 for the Stang. The GTO has 400bhp and the stang has 300bhp. They are very simular, but the mustang is much lighter, and more agile. They Mustang won the shootout between the GTO -vs- Mustang by 1 point :)

[Chef]

Originally posted by Syrus
Shows how much you know. They run the exact same 1/4 mile, 13.3 for the GTO 13.6 for the Stang. The GTO has 400bhp and the stang has 300bhp. They are very simular, but the mustang is much lighter, and more agile. They Mustang won the shootout between the GTO -vs- Mustang by 1 point :)

3 tenths in drag racing means you just got your ***** kicked. Regardless, I would rather have the Mustang, spend a couple hundred bucks on a set of gears, and atleast equal the GTO in the quarter and still be much better everywhere else.

[Chef]

Originally posted by nacs400ex
What everyone an their mama has a 350? Are you sure you dont mean everyone and their mama has a mustang ? My s10 with a 350, sure gives mustangs a run for their money.
Yes, their are fast stangs out there, but their just like 400ex's.



Your S10 with a 350 is alot more like a 400ex. Older chassis platform, with an older tech motor. One cam, in the block, 2 valves per cylinder. My Mach has 4 cams (DOHC) and 32 valves...and probably makes more HP than your 350 with only 281 cubic inches.

[Rdhanded2]

The new GTO isn't a 350, its a 6.0L Gen IV LS2.

[Kennethyfz450]

the retard who said the 350 are common and everyone in their grandma's got one is full of dirt most sport cars are on the road today are mustangs.... mustangs are nice, but if i had a choice of a 4.6 or a 5.7 i would choose the 5.7...

the mustang has an better chasis, BUT it dont have as much balls of an 350 camaro..


i never driven the GTO, so i couldnt compare the mustang to that...



also the 4.6 auto mustangs are SLOW very very very SLOW i would never buy an auto mustang..


also i driven a 02 cobra but it wasnt no where near stock and he is having trouble keeping up with built trucks ....(cummins/duramax/powerstroke)

[Chef]

An 02 Cobra thats no where near stock is having trouble keeping up with built trucks? LMAO. You have set a new record for being full of $hit. Theres a Mach 1 and a built powerstroke sitting in my driveway right next to each other right now, and the powerstroke doesn't even compare. I'm not 100% sure that they built a Cobra in 02, so if that was a Typo and you meant 03 (with the blower) then I know you are an idiot. If it was supposed to be 01, then its the same as my mach, and you are still an idiot.

[Scott-300ex]

yeah man, those trucks run like 17 seconds average, the cobras are 14s and the 04s are 13s


i know lots of people got mustangs, but you come where i live and compare mustangs to 350s, my friends always say they are gettin a new car or truck thats a chevy, and i say let me guess 350? and it always is

[nacs400ex]

Originally posted by Chef
Your S10 with a 350 is alot more like a 400ex. Older chassis platform, with an older tech motor. One cam, in the block, 2 valves per cylinder. My Mach has 4 cams (DOHC) and 32 valves...and probably makes more HP than your 350 with only 281 cubic inches.

When I said the mustang was like a 400ex, I meant everyone owns one, not that it was outdated and slow. They are fast cars, just not for me.

My R is outdated and it still puts the new tech to shame, But because its older its a crappy quad.

Yes, I have an old tech motor and tranny from a camaro and it also cost under $2000CDN. But it doesnt bother me too much that its outdated, when its infront of stangs that are worth way more.

I havent dynoed or dragged my s10 at the strip, but the previous owner of my s10, has recently built another because he missed my truck. Runs 13's on a stock 350 from a camaro as well.

I also can say I bought it with my own money, and also pay for insurance. Im willing to bet, your daddy bought you your car and pays for your insurance.

[Chef]

Originally posted by nacs400ex
I also can say I bought it with my own money, and also pay for insurance. Im willing to bet, your daddy bought you your car and pays for your insurance.

Yep. He did. And it really doesn't matter to me what you think about it. Just because the R is old doesn't mean its a piece of crap...my R is the fastest bike I've ever been on...We own 2 cars with 358 chevy's that are fast as all hell. I was just defending Mustangs because its obvious you don't know what your talking about.

[Fender Bender]

Who gives a **** who bought what, when, how and where? Thats besides the point. Gonna agree with donnie on this one.

[Lucipher]

Eh...I say the Mustang is better all around than the GTO...and 350's are old school.

[Lucipher]

And oh yea, I fund Chef's endeavors. All of them. :cool:

[nacs400ex]

Originally posted by Chef
Yep. He did. And it really doesn't matter to me what you think about it. Just because the R is old doesn't mean its a piece of crap...my R is the fastest bike I've ever been on...We own 2 cars with 358 chevy's that are fast as all hell. I was just defending Mustangs because its obvious you don't know what your talking about.

Why do you have to stand up for Mustangs? I think their fast cars, I wasnt putting them down at all. I was just stating their a common car, just like a 400ex is a common quad. I guess your going to tell me they arent common?

I dont know if my truck is faster than your car. Probably not, never raced a 2004 stang. My s10 beats my friends 5.0, but thats from the 80's. My truck has a motorswap 4.3L, to 350. I dont know the differences between his 1980's car and your 2004 mustang, but maybe somebody could tell me.

[Scott-300ex]

80s are 5.0's, 04's are 4.6's

differnent body

85 and under are carbed, 86 and over are fuel injected

same tranny's

same rearends from 86-04

same handling

uhhhh, thats off the top of my head for now

[nacs400ex]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
80s are 5.0's, 04's are 4.6's

differnent body

85 and under are carbed, 86 and over are fuel injected

same tranny's

same rearends from 86-04

same handling

uhhhh, thats off the top of my head for now

are the 5.0's faster than 4.6's, or does the technology difference make up for the smaller motor?

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by nacs400ex
are the 5.0's faster than 4.6's, or does the technology difference make up for the smaller motor?


I've heard both

BUT

the 4.6 didn't have overhead cams, the new gts do like the 04's have single overheads, and the mach 1 and cobra have dual

i think the 5.0 is faster stock, about the same horsepower, torque i don't know, which torque wins races not horsepower like everyone thinks, i think the 5.0 is a little faster, not just becuase i have one, there are lots of mods for both of them, tons, but a lot more mods for the 5.0 to buy

my parents have a mach 1 and evertime we raced i beat it

they got a 4.6 dual overhead cams, cobra engine without the supercharger, and my 5.0, mods in my sig

i would get either, but i love the 80's body style the best, and the 5.0, lol

[Chef]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
I've heard both

BUT

the 4.6 didn't have overhead cams, the new gts do like the 04's have single overheads, and the mach 1 and cobra have dual



The 4.6's have always had overhead cams as far as I know. As far as 5,0's vs the Mach 1...All the 5.0's I've seen (close to stock-its alot cheaper to build a 5.0 than a DOHC) don't hold a candle to my car.

[Scott-300ex]

what you got?

are you sayin you smoke stock 5.0's?

[Chef]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
what you got?

are you sayin you smoke stock 5.0's?

2004 Mach 1. Yes, That is what I'm sayin.

[CRE Performance]

Lemme clear up some thing, ive just read through so much bull I cant even remember it all but I'll hit the high points....

-All 4.6 engines are modular meaning they have overhead camshafts. All GT's and any Ford-Linc-Merc passenger cars and trucks have single overhead cams. All Cobras, Machs, 99-04 Navigators, Continentals and Marks have dual overhead cams with 4 valves per cylinder.

-I dont like GM's, but the LS1-6 engines are fast and great engines. They have to be, after all they copied a ford on them. If you take a cylinder head off of an LS1 engine, its almost hard to differ them from an aluminum SB windsor series cylinder head. This is exactly why they are fast, but still, the downfall was they copied Fords old technology when they should have copied the new technology I.E. Modular engines.

-The guy who stated Horsepower doesnt win races, torque does. You are absolutely correct, those who dont know should take note.

-To the other statement that cubic inches arent always faster. Yes they are. Given two engines with identical counterparts and identical situations and weather, the engine with the most cubes will win. The reason that Mach outruns the GTO isnt due to cubes, its due to technology which GM is dumbfounded by, evidently.

-Who ever said automatic GT's are slow, they arent too bad. Stock LS1 cars run 9.20's-9.40's through the 1/8, my 99GT auto runs consistent 9.30's. Not as awful as you think.

-The modded 04 cobra having trouble keeping up with diesel trucks? Hmmmmm....NO! Unless he has been racing the 5 or 6 trucks in the nation that will actually haul *** due to many upgrades. Your basic chipped desiel is going down like a $2 hooker on pay day.

-350's are good engines, they would have to be to have been around for decades.

[Butters]

Originally posted by CRE Performance
Lemme clear up some thing, ive just read through so much bull I cant even remember it all but I'll hit the high points....

-All 4.6 engines are modular meaning they have overhead camshafts. All GT's and any Ford-Linc-Merc passenger cars and trucks have single overhead cams. All Cobras, Machs, 99-04 Navigators, Continentals and Marks have dual overhead cams with 4 valves per cylinder.

-I dont like GM's, but the LS1-6 engines are fast and great engines. They have to be, after all they copied a ford on them. If you take a cylinder head off of an LS1 engine, its almost hard to differ them from an aluminum SB windsor series cylinder head. This is exactly why they are fast, but still, the downfall was they copied Fords old technology when they should have copied the new technology I.E. Modular engines.

-The guy who stated Horsepower doesnt win races, torque does. You are absolutely correct, those who dont know should take note.

-To the other statement that cubic inches arent always faster. Yes they are. Given two engines with identical counterparts and identical situations and weather, the engine with the most cubes will win. The reason that Mach outruns the GTO isnt due to cubes, its due to technology which GM is dumbfounded by, evidently.

-Who ever said automatic GT's are slow, they arent too bad. Stock LS1 cars run 9.20's-9.40's through the 1/8, my 99GT auto runs consistent 9.30's. Not as awful as you think.

-The modded 04 cobra having trouble keeping up with diesel trucks? Hmmmmm....NO! Unless he has been racing the 5 or 6 trucks in the nation that will actually haul *** due to many upgrades. Your basic chipped desiel is going down like a $2 hooker on pay day.

-350's are good engines, they would have to be to have been around for decades.


what stock LS1 cars run 9's???? just curious.

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by Chef
2004 Mach 1. Yes, That is what I'm sayin.


nice car

my parents have one and i beat it every time, but mine is definetly not stock

and it ain't cubes, its ports, valves, intake, carb/injectors, exhaust, cam.

[Kennethyfz450]

LOL you think im full of crap because i told you a truck can stomp jason (cobra)

well seems like you havent found the right powerstroke with the right chip with the tutbo turned up....

[Scott-300ex]

my friend has a truck that everyone says is the best truck ever, 100hp chip, and lots of other stuff, man an 04 cobra runs 13's, i've only seen 1 desil my entire life that ran 13's or 14's and that was built for drag racing and drag racing only, cuz there is a desil challenge at my strip, and he bought it and did everything he could and it ain't street legal and that runs high 13's or low 14's i can't remember

[Scott-300ex]

also, your friend probably doesn't know how to drive it

[CRE Performance]

Originally posted by Kennethyfz450
LOL you think im full of crap because i told you a truck can stomp jason (cobra)

well seems like you havent found the right powerstroke with the right chip with the tutbo turned up....


I have chipped and dynoed more F-350's and Excursions than I have changed socks in the last 3 years. I know they make good power, they are just too heavy to turn any fast numbers on the strip. I have also taken many to the strip for testing. In a nutshell, your buddies cobra would have to be stock as a rock, basically ran down and have a NDFS behind the wheel for a chipped and overboosted truck to outrun it. Theres a lot of weight in these trucks to be considered.


As far as which LS1 car runs nines.....Im speaking of 99-up Z-28's that are bone stock with street tires. This is what they run from factory before any mods whatsoever are done to them. Im also speaking 1/8 mile times. There are ocasional freaks that will clip a high 8.80 or 8.90 from time to time, pretty rare in any instance if its completely bone stock.

[1BADYFZ]

My 98 Z28 ran 9's stock, with nittos and a 100 shot I pulled a 8.2. LS1's own!, the only mustang worth a dayum is the new cobra. Hell, I see new gt's getting beat by 10 year old lt1's at the track.

[Plante400]

the new stangs are HOOOOOOOOTTT

def the mustang

[Butters]

Originally posted by CRE Performance
I have chipped and dynoed more F-350's and Excursions than I have changed socks in the last 3 years. I know they make good power, they are just too heavy to turn any fast numbers on the strip. I have also taken many to the strip for testing. In a nutshell, your buddies cobra would have to be stock as a rock, basically ran down and have a NDFS behind the wheel for a chipped and overboosted truck to outrun it. Theres a lot of weight in these trucks to be considered.


As far as which LS1 car runs nines.....Im speaking of 99-up Z-28's that are bone stock with street tires. This is what they run from factory before any mods whatsoever are done to them. Im also speaking 1/8 mile times. There are ocasional freaks that will clip a high 8.80 or 8.90 from time to time, pretty rare in any instance if its completely bone stock.


i thought you were talking 1/4 mile times. i don't know how impressive that is.

[Matt37]

It doesnt matter because the new zo6 kicks the crap out of all the 5.0's,mach 1's,etc.

[Chef]

Originally posted by Matt37
It doesnt matter because the new zo6 kicks the crap out of all the 5.0's,mach 1's,etc.

Yea, for $60k +. Give me another 30 grand to spend on my Mach, and that Vette won't even know what passed it.

[BadAss03]

i have dumped about 3 grand into my 11 year old lt-1 camaro and at 12 flat in the quarter it will beat your Mach 1. With slicks it will probably pull high 11's. As far as the debate started I say wait a year or 2 and get the new camaro. The only reason that GM still uses the 350 is because it is a badass proven motor

[BadAss03]

Heres the pic

[Butters]

Originally posted by BadAss03
Heres the pic


is that what the new camaro is supposed to look like??

[CRE Performance]

Originally posted by BadAss03
The only reason that GM still uses the 350 is because it is a badass proven motor


What does GM still uses the basic 350 engine? I thought they only put LS series engines in them after 99', which is a redesigned 346 inch engine with Ford wannabe cylinder heads.

[Scott-300ex]

wow, chevy deffinetly coppied off of the new mustang for the camaro

its cool there comin back with them though

[DEAL]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
wow, chevy deffinetly coppied off of the new mustang for the camaro

its cool there comin back with them though


Whats the best thing ford has ever done?

Circled their problem.

[Scott-300ex]

hey, you wanna go?:macho

[DEAL]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
hey, you wanna go?:macho

haha I'm just jokin with ya .. but I got lots more where that came from.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
wow, chevy deffinetly coppied off of the new mustang for the camaro

its cool there comin back with them though

actually hasn't the chevy camaro concept been out longer than the mustang one that is out now?? i thought it had been but maybe not.

[nacs400ex]

Originally posted by Butters
actually hasn't the chevy camaro concept been out longer than the mustang one that is out now?? i thought it had been but maybe not.

I know it was announced to the public first, although the camaro is a concept.


Yea, for $60k +. Give me another 30 grand to spend on my Mach, and that Vette won't even know what passed it.

You can say that with any vehicle. Take the price of your mustang and dump that money into a $2000 vehicle. Which is faster?:o

[Butters]

anyone have any info on when the camaro is supposed to come out?? looks like we are tied in the poll.

[BadAss03]

i got that pic about a 6 months ago and the article it was with said it would come out in 2007. But other than pics and the date gm has not released any info on the car. Look out for it in 2007

[BadAss03]

I cant find any specs on the car, but i will be on the lookout

[Butters]

Originally posted by BadAss03
I cant find any specs on the car, but i will be on the lookout


cool if you find anything please post it.

[hemi operator]

All I ever saw was a few months ago when Bob Lutz from Chevrolet mentioned to someone from HOTROD magazine that a re-invented Camaro may be a natural progression from the GTO being brought over to the States.

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by DEAL
haha I'm just jokin with ya .. but I got lots more where that came from.

yeah man i was joking too

i actually thought it was funny as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol