got my c&d revalve... lots of pics

[jeepnrocks]

Well guys, i got my shocks back today and got them installed. the back was kind of a pain since i was working by myself but all in all it wasn't bad.
anyhow, i took it for a small ride but nothing that could tell me how the shocks are really going to perform. i tried to hit a few bumps but in the small field there was nothing that could really test out how the shocks are going to work. However, I did notice the lower center of gravity immediately. I spun the quad around a few times and could tell it felt alot more stable. The only thing I found strange was when installing them i couldn't figure out why i wasnt lined up correctly. well the shocks will actually twist on themselves. i dont know if they all do that or if its just the way the ssd springs work. is this just the springs turning on the body and no big deal? i just made sure they were lined up the same and put them on. Also, i doubt c&d is online tonight so if anyone has these, how do you adjust the front height ? just curioius.
anyhow here are a bunch of pics. sorry i was in a hurry and they arent the best quality
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/jeepnrocks/450r/DSC01627.jpg
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[asdf450r]

Looks very nice, if you dont mind me asking how much did the entire revalve cost and what was the turn around time (not that it matters)? Im interested in getting this done myself

Thanks

[Mxracer53]

u cant ajust the front height because it was ajusted with preload and u dont have preload any more.:o the shocks look great telll how they work some of us are interesed in them too.;)

[jeepnrocks]

I'm not entirely sure but i think the advantage of a zero preload shock is being able to adjust ride height without losing travel. once again i'm not entirely sure but I will find out more after the holidays

[300racer]

those shocks looks good I can't wait till I get mine back. How long did it take for you to get yours back?

[WhiteZee]

Originally posted by jeepnrocks
I'm not entirely sure but i think the advantage of a zero preload shock is being able to adjust ride height without losing travel. once again i'm not entirely sure but I will find out more after the holidays
i dont want to sound like an *******, but you bought this shock rebuild and dont understand how the zps system works? your front shocks are no longer adjustable, and judging by the small amount of travel the rear shock comes with, that zps spring will cut down on that even more....

[bobbo97f150]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i dont want to sound like an *******, but you bought this shock rebuild and dont understand how the zps system works? your front shocks are no longer adjustable, and judging by the small amount of travel the rear shock comes with, that zps spring will cut down on that even more....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/bobbo97f150/450RTCS005.jpg

The front shocks are still adjustable, compression and rebound. My rear shock was rebuilt by TCS which I will venture to say is pretty similar to the C&D rebuild. You don't lose any travel. My shock stops when it hits the bumper. How would a spring, small or large, cut down on travel?

[jeepnrocks]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i dont want to sound like an *******
Too late.
from what i read abot zero preload, you can adjust ride height without losing travel .

[jeepnrocks]

quote is from zrider400

this is what Colby from C&D racing told me for adjusting ride height.

"If you were to remove the springs you will notice that the cross overs are different length. You can switch them around it will change the ride height."

[wvspeedfreak]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i dont want to sound like an *******, but you bought this shock rebuild and dont understand how the zps system works? your front shocks are no longer adjustable, and judging by the small amount of travel the rear shock comes with, that zps spring will cut down on that even more....

Actually the rear is not a zps,just the front.The rear is a dual rate(note the preload adjusting collar and rings are still there).

[wvspeedfreak]

Hey Jeepnrocks,what is your ride height at now?I am just curious to compare it to mine.If you have time,measure from the bottom of the frame to the floor front and rear and let me know what you got.I am just curious.

Thanks

[jeepnrocks]

i'll shoot you a pm whenever i get a chance. got lots of runing to do today !

[jeepnrocks]

by the way speed freak, i bought 22 inch fromt irazrs thinking they were going to be similar in size to the stock 22's. i was wrong. the aftermarket 22's seem considerably taller than the facftory 22's

[450r#221]

Let me know what you think about those C&d's. Im still not sure which way im going.I heard Dirisi is good too but not by someone that has them.

[Colby@C&DRacing]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i dont want to sound like an *******, but you bought this shock rebuild and dont understand how the zps system works? your front shocks are no longer adjustable, and judging by the small amount of travel the rear shock comes with, that zps spring will cut down on that even more....

You are wrong.
The front shocks are still fully adjustable ( comp, rebound, and ride height) Yes they have a zero preload spring but you can still adj the ride height. The (zps) spring on the rear does not limit the travel it has the same travel as it did stock. And actually Jeepnrocks bike now has 1'' more travel in the rear than stock after my rebuild and the optional new valve body that we installed to give the 450 a longer shaft. So don't bash on my customers when you don't know anything about our product.

[jeepnrocks]

Thanks colby, i knew they were still ride height adjustable. I don't even want or need to mess with the height of the front right now. i was just curious. I'm going to measure the front and rear this week as soon as i get a chance. I believe I have read 1/4 - to 1/2 inch lower in the back is a pretty good setting.
I wish I could give all you guys a better report but the holidays and weather are keeping me from riding till later this week.

[WhiteZee]

Originally posted by Colby@C&DRacing
And actually Jeepnrocks bike now has 1'' more travel in the rear than stock after my rebuild and the optional new valve body that we installed to give the 450 a longer shaft. So don't bash on my customers when you don't know anything about our product.
excuse me, i had no idea that you were installing new valve bodys and a longer shaft, i have never heard anyone say anything about that.

about the rear zps, when i say that it looses travel, the point at which the shock is fully compressed would stay the same, but when the zps is installed, from what i understand, the amount of useable travel is less, since the shock is compressed more with the zps spring.

[beak7707]

I also agree with zee. Maybe the fronts still have adj ride hieght if you want to tear the shock apart and change the cross overs. But the spinner type adj for the ride height is no longer there. Elkas and other aftermarket shocks have the zps spring but you can still change your ride hight by turning the collar up top. When they were stock you could spin the nuts up top to raise or lower you preload, that is no longer an option. However you will get your lowered ride hieght from the zps spring now.

They do look nice I hope you like them, I was going to go with them untill I found a killer deal on elka's.

[wvspeedfreak]

Keep in mind that this is an upgrade on stock shocks,not high end aftermarket shocks like Elka,pep,etc..
They are intended for people who may not be able to afford $1000 front shocks and is a super improvement over stock,you just dont have as many luxuries as the high dollar units.

[jeepnrocks]

i agree, for 625 bucks you can't beat this deal with a stick.
I also feel that 90 percent of the people out there with elkas and axis will never see the limit of their shocks... ever. I hope to find the limits of these and have the need for something really high end but that may never happen. who knows. In the end it all comes down to rider ability and i would wager that you could throw gust, ballance or any of the other top pros on a stock 400 ex and they would spank every one here that has a fully modded xc or mx 450r/yfz/250r/x400
just my .02

[kazpr]

Originally posted by jeepnrocks
gust, ballance or any of the other top pros on a stock 400 ex and they would spank every one here that has a fully modded xc or mx 450r/yfz/250r/x400
just my .02


They could use reverse and beat me :)

[Ralph]

Originally posted by jeepnrocks
i agree, for 625 bucks you can't beat this deal with a stick.


625 for just the front:confused:

[ZRider400]

thats the price for front and rear...