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Thumperz4Life
12-20-2004, 10:04 AM
Alright my little brother outgrew his CRF100 and is looking to get a CR85 Expert. We ride mostly in the Sand (Glamis, Dumont, Pismo), I know that the CR85's make good power on the dirt but will it make it in the sand? My bro weighs about 120lbs. Anybody familiar with these bikes?

Mxjunkie
12-20-2004, 10:15 AM
yeah i own one :) im about 145, they make 20 horse power stock, i started with a xr100 or crf100 also, they do decent in the sand, you have to rev them a little and stay in the high rpms..

id recomend putting a fmf golden serires sst then a fmf shorty-very loud 6 inches long, or a turbinecore2 Q slilencer

vforce carbonfiber reedvalve and a twinair airfilter and it'll run extremly well :macho

Thumperz4Life
12-20-2004, 10:39 AM
Im looking for him to be able to keep up with me and my buddies in the dunes. So your saying that with a pipe, filter, and reeds it should be able to lay down some good power and roost in the sand with a 120 pounder on it?

Mxjunkie
12-20-2004, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Thumperz4Life
Im looking for him to be able to keep up with me and my buddies in the dunes. So your saying that with a pipe, filter, and reeds it should be able to lay down some good power and roost in the sand with a 120 pounder on it?

yeah man, once you do those mods, maybe a few gearing mods, and it'll surprise everyone :macho in a 600ft stright away i beat my friend, he had a 400ex, whitebrothers eserires slipon and a uni airfilter, i had the fmf pipes

with a 120 pound kid on it that thing should fly

even stock it'll do good

Honda400exrox
12-20-2004, 11:24 AM
my little brother has 1 he is 13 has CR85 and he is 70 pounds and it beats the CRF150 at everyhing

Syrus
12-20-2004, 11:35 AM
Um... if he just outgrew that CRF100 then a CR85r wont do him for much longer. Id look for a CR125 or a CRF150, waste of money buying a 85, he will get bored with it fast, and if hes 120lb, hes already perfect size for a 125, and that gives him lots of bike to grow and learn on. Just my 2 cents :cool:

Honda400exrox
12-20-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Syrus
Um... if he just outgrew that CRF100 then a CR85r wont do him for much longer. Id look for a CR125 or a CRF150, waste of money buying a 85, he will get bored with it fast, and if hes 120lb, hes already perfect size for a 125, and that gives him lots of bike to grow and learn on. Just my 2 cents :cool:

what is wrong with u?:huh? a CR85 kills a CRF150 in sand, it kills the CRF150F in hills and it kills the CRF150 at throwing roost and if anyhing he'll get bored with a CRF150 before he gets bored of a CR85

Mxjunkie
12-20-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Syrus
Um... if he just outgrew that CRF100 then a CR85r wont do him for much longer. Id look for a CR125 or a CRF150, waste of money buying a 85, he will get bored with it fast, and if hes 120lb, hes already perfect size for a 125, and that gives him lots of bike to grow and learn on. Just my 2 cents :cool:

it depends on how tall this kid is, im 5'7 and i fit my cr80expert fine, i was 5'4 and i was tippie toe

I-7
12-20-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Syrus
Um... if he just outgrew that CRF100 then a CR85r wont do him for much longer. Id look for a CR125 or a CRF150, waste of money buying a 85, he will get bored with it fast, and if hes 120lb, hes already perfect size for a 125, and that gives him lots of bike to grow and learn on. Just my 2 cents :cool:

I actually think that a cr85 will be a lot better in the sand... and I also recommend looking into the big wheel model for him for the sand. Also, the xr100 is considerally smaller than a cr85 and going from a xr100 to a cr125 is ridiculous. Im 5'8 and I still feel small compared to my 250f and 125.

Get your brother a cr85, it will do good in the sand with proper riding. And if you get the big wheel version, it will give him more to grow into and make it easier to ride with a bigger wheel.

Hondadudeehhhh
12-20-2004, 11:48 AM
a cr125 is way too big for a 120 pound kid.

My advice......400ex :eek2: but if the quad is too expensive yeah get him an 85

Scott-300ex
12-20-2004, 12:02 PM
cr80's will keep up with a 400ex stock and your gettin an 85, stock he'll definetly be by you i mean, you won't have to wait for him, especially if you get mods done.


when i had a bike it was hell to ride in sand, the loose stuff i could barely keep it up, so i had to just go fast.

and 2-strokes are fun as hell, don't get him a 4-stroke, 2's are fun to roost in the sand

i remember when i first started sliding with my dirtbike in the sand, waaaaaaaaaaaay cooler than sliding with a quad, i could do donuts and stuff, he will have fun on an 85

Sportrax10
12-20-2004, 12:06 PM
I dont know much about dirtbikes.. but how about a kx100... Since its in between the 85's and 125's it might be about the perfect size...

As for the cr85's I have a couple of friends that ride them and your little brother would probably fit pretty good on one...:macho

Syrus
12-20-2004, 12:07 PM
Hmm.. if its such a big jump to go from an XR100 - CR125 then how come i had no problem doing it ? im 5,7 barely 120lb's and i went from a '96 XR100 to a 2001 CR125 no problem pal. I borrowed my friends CR85r because thats what i was going to buy at first and it seemed to small for me, not bike size but the 85cc just didnt do it for me.. if u know what i mean. I was bored with the bike after a day for riding :o

Like i said, just giving my 2 cents... you can either take it from someone who has expierence on those bikes or u can just listen to some jhon doe who just replys to make it look like he knows what hes talking about:rolleyes:

If hes older than 15, i wouldnt buy him an 85, trust me he will be bored with it soon, unless hes a whimp :ermm:

Mxjunkie
12-20-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Syrus


If hes older than 15, i wouldnt buy him an 85, trust me he will be bored with it soon, unless hes a whimp :ermm:

im 15 and im not bored with mine, so i guess im a whimp eh? :ermm:

Syrus
12-20-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
im 15 and im not bored with mine, so i guess im a whimp eh? :ermm:

Probably ;)

I-7
12-20-2004, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Syrus
Hmm.. if its such a big jump to go from an XR100 - CR125 then how come i had no problem doing it ? im 5,7 barely 120lb's and i went from a '96 XR100 to a 2001 CR125 no problem pal. I borrowed my friends CR85r because thats what i was going to buy at first and it seemed to small for me, not bike size but the 85cc just didnt do it for me.. if u know what i mean. I was bored with the bike after a day for riding :o

Like i said, just giving my 2 cents... you can either take it from someone who has expierence on those bikes or u can just listen to some jhon doe who just replys to make it look like he knows what hes talking about:rolleyes:

If hes older than 15, i wouldnt buy him an 85, trust me he will be bored with it soon, unless hes a whimp :ermm:


Hey.. if you talking to me.. i've ridden both and I do think a 125 is not a great step-up bike.. Maybe he will outgrow a cr85 but definatley not a big wheel. And the comment about getting bored of it.. if you got bored of it so fast, then you obviously weren't riding it very hard because those bikes can work and they move well. Nothing that size comes close to them.


And theres a difference between canadian riding and so cal riding.. ;)

Tommy 17
12-20-2004, 01:41 PM
heres my imput... i had a cr80 for years (83cc)... i rode my friends 125s all the time and i was like 12 years old... the only problem was holding the bars straight... i wasn't strong enouf to hold onto the bike for long periods of time... the handle bars were 2 wide and it just weighed to much... i was dead in 15 mins where i could ride the 80 for hours...


the bike didn't have to much power for me but it was just 2 heavy...

Hondadudeehhhh
12-20-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Syrus

Like i said, just giving my 2 cents... you can either take it from someone who has expierence on those bikes or u can just listen to some jhon doe who just replys to make it look like he knows what hes talking about:rolleyes:

If hes older than 15, i wouldnt buy him an 85, trust me he will be bored with it soon, unless hes a whimp :ermm:

Someone who is older than 15 def shouldnt be on an 85, im 15 and im too big for an 85. Im also kind of taller than a lot of people my age that ride. If he gets bored from an 85 he can sell it after a year and get a 125. Why put a kid on a 125 and let him get hurt? It's not about growing into a bike its aboout having fun. 120 pounds sounds like a small kid so i would guess hes like 13, a 13 year old doesnt belong on a 125 in my opinion. I-7 is right, a big wheel will be great for him, if he doesnt think it has enough power than bore er to 107 :D . Hes not stuck with one bike for the rest of his life.

i still think you should put him on a four wheeler :blah:

Syrus
12-20-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by I-7


And theres a difference between canadian riding and so cal riding.. ;)

Yes there is a difference, we ride a lot harder and have more balls. But honestly if u think there is a difference, your a moron.

:rolleyes:

Mxjunkie
12-20-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Syrus
Yes there is a difference, we ride a lot harder and have more balls. But honestly if u think there is a difference, your a moron.

:rolleyes:

uh limmie see, sand just to name ONE :rolleyes:

btw can u tell me when the crf150 became a better bike the the cr85expert? causes thats so much bs, the suspension on the 150's blow, the power blows and the overall bike blows, even magazines say that and the crf230 arent good bikes at all

if you read his post hes trying to keep up with them, not be behind still, a piped xr100 would take a crf150 :rolleyes:

I-7
12-20-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Syrus
Yes there is a difference, we ride a lot harder and have more balls. But honestly if u think there is a difference, your a moron.

:rolleyes:

Yep.. you said he should get a 125 or a crf150... I'd really like to see how that 150 gets around the desert compared to the 2 stroke 85... Didn't mean to hurt your feelings :huh :p

Syrus
12-20-2004, 02:45 PM
yyaaa... because there no sand in Canada ! oh wait there a sand pit right across the road from me, about 75 acres of sand... maybe not any desert, but its pretty much the same.

And if you wernt such a pathetic blind child, you would see i never said the CRF150 would be better in sand.. i said it would fit him better so he would have something to grow into.

**** guys all i said was giving the dude some advice on dirtbikes, ive had about 60+ motocross bikes with my dad, im not some kid who knows nothing, i know more then most ppl, and im giving him help, and if u have a problem with what ive sugested, drop me a pm and we will talk about it... not ***** back and forth like little kids... well MXJunkie talks for himself, but I-7 you should be a tad more mature when it comes to replying on a topic.

I-7
12-20-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Syrus
yyaaa... because there no sand in Canada ! oh wait there a sand pit right across the road from me, about 75 acres of sand... maybe not any desert, but its pretty much the same.

And if you wernt such a pathetic blind child, you would see i never said the CRF150 would be better in sand.. i said it would fit him better so he would have something to grow into.

**** guys all i said was giving the dude some advice on dirtbikes, ive had about 60+ motocross bikes with my dad, im not some kid who knows nothing, i know more then most ppl, and im giving him help, and if u have a problem with what ive sugested, drop me a pm and we will talk about it... not ***** back and forth like little kids... well MXJunkie talks for himself, but I-7 you should be a tad more mature when it comes to replying on a topic.


Hmmm... maybe that is why the crf150 and cr85 have the same exact seat height? And maybe why the cr85expert seat height is 2 inches more than the crf150? You are the one getting all personal about it. I never doubted your knowledge... I just thought that the cr85 was a better fit.. Go find some people that would put a kid from an xr100 to a cr125, riding in the desert... You wont find many. Obviously, you don't have much knowledge about these kinds of bikes... and if you read this thread over.. you will see that you were the person jumping all over my reply. I just said that its a big jump. Never personally attacked you..I'm done with this thread... grow up syrus

MotoX3
12-20-2004, 03:13 PM
trust me... a kid that size wouldnt be waaaay outta control on a 125 unless hes very good....and about the 15 year old on a 85 comment....ive raced 15 years olds on 85s and theyve beat me on my 125....that 85 expert would be great for him....

Scott-300ex
12-20-2004, 03:41 PM
yeah, my kx60 would smoke a xr100 when i had it.


also, syrus, im not flaming but you said he'd get bored on a 85, well since they can keep up and i've heard of beat 400ex's, then i guess everyone on this site who doesn't have a 450 or a predator is bored as hell everytime they ride.


although i can keep up with a 185 2-stoke bike so i don't know how 85's will keep up with 400's but who knows, there was a yamaha 80 or 85 with us but he was to afraid to race or just scared he was ganna loose.


but CR85's rip

Thumperz4Life
12-20-2004, 04:51 PM
Wow, got a lot of replies on this one! Well my little bro is in fact 13 and like i said he's about 120 lbs and stands about 5'5. I took him to the local shop to size out bikes and the crf250 was too tall for him and a tad to heavy, maybe in a year he will be able to handle it. The cr125 is about the same size as the crf250, so that out. The cr85 was just right, in fact the expert model with the big wheel fit him perfect. Im sure he'll only have the cr85 for a year or so if he gets it, I was just curious if the 85's can handle their own in the sand.

BTW- If it was up to me, he would be on a TRX!

Scott-300ex
12-20-2004, 04:53 PM
man, if i were you i'd ride his 85 as much as you ride your R,

ZapsRacing
12-20-2004, 05:36 PM
The CR85 Expert would be a good fit. If he grows out of it o-well. Thats why there is so many shops around. The powerband is nice on the cr85's. I rode my friends when i still had my kx100. They have a lil bit more punch when ya hit the powerband. If he rides'r like he means it, he should rip around pretty good on it.

cr_85_2003
09-07-2005, 09:27 PM
CR85s are so fast. They may not be quite as fast as a 125 but honestly its not too much different if you ride the pipe and put a few hop ups on. I beat alot of 125 riders. I got off an xr100 and went right to a CR85 and now im turning 15 next year and the bike still fits. It was the perfect transition. I highly recommend the CR85 over the crf150 because youll never keep up with the 150.

trict_out
09-07-2005, 09:58 PM
wow...OLD post. haha josh still had his cr85 :D

Eddiesanders250
09-07-2005, 10:36 PM
i very much disagree that a 13 year old shouldnt be riding a 125. im 13, 5'10, 135. the cr85 is small for me, and yes i do belong on a 125.

trict_out
09-07-2005, 10:50 PM
5'10 is pretty tall for a 13 year old, Not all 13 year olds belong on a 125 persay, size and weight is a big factor. 125's can be a little to much bike for dexter you typical 13 year old band student.

09-08-2005, 08:03 AM
I've been racing 125's since i was 11. Its about skill and size, not age.

cr_85_2003
09-08-2005, 12:57 PM
Well ive still got a 125, and i just find 125s are so tall. i like being able to ride being able to touch both feet on the ground (toes). 5'10 is a huge 13 year old. If you can handle the 125 and dont mind the size then obviously take a 125.