wheels are spinning here

[Pappy]

ok, a few weeks ago i was asking about the crf 250 engine for a project that has been in my head for awhile.

i have access to a dual overhead cam, 250cc, electric start 12:1 honda engine and im considering either a 450r based chassis or possibly even a cannondale for the weight savings. im leaning towards the R .

any more opinions?

[Rdhanded2]

The R would be sweet, but it would be awesome to see the Cannondale frame done up. I have never seen an engine swap into a cannondale frame.

[FourFiftyFour]

someone has put a yzf426 motor in a cannondale frame before, and i know of someone putting a ktm motor in a cannondale frame

[JR3]

yea a cannondale swap would be cool ive never seen 1 and it would be light

[Pappy]

i think we are going to make this happen:p

[WhiteZee]

i would consider using a 250r frame, they are a lot shorter(vertical) then the new 4-strokes, and there are tons of parts for them. since this will be for your kid, you will want a smaller frame.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i would consider using a 250r frame, they are a lot shorter(vertical) then the new 4-strokes, and there are tons of parts for them. since this will be for your kid, you will want a smaller frame.

considered it but i know the 4 stoke will fit in the R chassis and i imagine it also would fit in the 250r with out much trouble. heck i might even use a 300ex chassis!

[exrider360]

use the 300ex frame and body it ouwld be the ultimate sport class race or begginer.

[Tommy 17]

pappy i think a 450r or a 400ex would be the way to go... plastic, seats, brakes, etc are all very cheap for them bc they are made in america... there is also a huge supply of parts just layin around everywhere it seems...

[Rico]

Originally posted by exrider360
use the 300ex frame and body it ouwld be the ultimate sport class race or begginer.

It would be, but 400ex parts are half the price of 300ex...

[exrider360]

rico thats true to use the 400ex frame

[Pappy]

yeah but i have 450R stock parts everywhere...fenders also:p swinga rms, a a rms stems...lol all i need is a frame and some fabrication time:devil:

[theTman]

450r:)

[lil400exdude]

if you were to choose the cannondale your son might not find it as the most comfotable as the other ful size quads. im 5 9 and dont like my dads, the plastic seems to be very wide, but thats just my opinion good luck....

[Dave400ex]

Have Burgard build you a special chassis!

[TheFontMaster]

Pappy, what about that 250r roller that you boutght a couple months back?

[WhiteBros400ex]

I say scence u have all the stock R parts it would be easier to do it with a R frame.Although it would look really sick done up in a c dale frame.

[SRH]

kinda ot, but on some other site i saw a yfz with a yz 250f engine

[Pappy]

Originally posted by TheFontMaster
Pappy, what about that 250r roller that you boutght a couple months back?

i wasnt able to get it, thats right about the time my dad got sick and passed away so i never had the free time to go get it:(

[sampleez]

so it looks like the motor ur gettin is a yzf or rm or kx right.... because the honda is a sohc.. if it is a yamaha, i've heard from my bike ridin buddies that you don't want a 02 and under because they don't have a decompression release and are hard to start. and about putting it in a 300, i don't think this be allowed at a sanctioned race, because the 200/300 class is air cooled

[Pappy]

no the engine IS a honda:devil: its from a street bike that jeff from the quadshop turned me on to. it was only sold in the USA for 3 years but is very popular in europe. the fact that it has E start, a good compression (12-1) and is cheap is the reason im considering it.

id still like to get my hands on a 250cc based engine that is more popular but the prices seem a bit high

and im not worried about racing it in any events unless its an open class. its more of a project for fun then a serious racer.

[LazeR]

As this gets underway, we're definately going to need pics :D

[SRH]

an nx 250... im rigth arent i..

[bradley300]

Originally posted by exrider360
use the 300ex frame and body it ouwld be the ultimate sport class race or begginer.

sport class requires a stock frame with matching engine cases

[brandonpeake]

go with the 450R frame , its hard to argue with free parts!

[FourFiftyFour]

Originally posted by lil400exdude
if you were to choose the cannondale your son might not find it as the most comfotable as the other ful size quads. im 5 9 and dont like my dads, the plastic seems to be very wide, but thats just my opinion good luck....

im only 5'6" and i fit on the cannondale just fine, i am more uncomfortable on a 400ex and 450r than i am on a Dale

[MichaelS693]

Originally posted by Pappy
jeff from the quadshop turned me on


:eek2: :devil:

[Rdhanded2]

Originally posted by MichaelS693
:eek2: :devil:


hahaha true!

[SRH]

here yo go pappy a laegers built yfz 250f from europe

http://predator.bikepics.com/pics/yamaha-banshee-03-bikepics-255885.jpg

[Pappy]

yep thats what i have in mind...except based on a honda engine. im still thinking using a crf250 engine would be the ticket:macho

[400EXrider#91]

that would be sweet pappy and you should go with the R frame

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
yep thats what i have in mind...except based on a honda engine. im still thinking using a crf250 engine would be the ticket:macho

why dont you sell your r motor and put a crf engine in it then your son woudl be ready to go, i think you could probly get your pipe to work too

[Rico]

This YZ250F bike motor in a YFZ body should do the trick...:eek:

I'm sure Cody could handle it but pappy would need a seat belt.. :devil:

[Pappy]

my R is complete..lol

i have a new R chassis due here next week to start this deal...just weighing my options on the engine

[AtvMxRider]

How old is Cody?

[Pappy]

he will be 12 in june

[AtvMxRider]

Is he going to race this quad?

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Rico
This YZ250F bike motor in a YFZ body should do the trick...:eek:

I'm sure Cody could handle it but pappy would need a seat belt.. :devil:

wow that is one awesome looking quad :eek2:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Is he going to race this quad?

no clue...i just want him on a quad i built for him. the factory isnt offering anything along these lines so ill wrench him out a badass quad:D

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Pappy
no clue...i just want him on a quad i built for him. the factory isnt offering anything along these lines so ill wrench him out a badass quad:D


Then I would go with the crf250 bike motor or the yfz250.

[SRH]

Originally posted by Rico
This YZ250F bike motor in a YFZ body should do the trick...:eek:

I'm sure Cody could handle it but pappy would need a seat belt.. :devil:

i just posted that on the previous page wtf and you get the credit for you i give you the finger:mad:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
i just posted that on the previous page wtf and you get the credit for you i give you the finger:mad:

rotflmao!

[400EXrider#91]

Originally posted by SRH
i just posted that on the previous page wtf and you get the credit for you i give you the finger:mad:

rico i think you pissed him off

[Rico]

Originally posted by 400EXrider#91
rico i think you pissed him off

Wouldn't be the first time I"ve pissed her off....:devil: Plus the pic I posted is a lot more clear and you can actually see the pic..:scary:

[Jersey450R]

the 250's move, almost as quick as the 450's but with alot less power. actually, i think it could be useful with less power in some situations.
-Does that yahmaha hybris look photoshopped to anyone else?

[xsr_racing28c]

Pappy, i think that this is an awesome idea!! sorta on the lines of a CRF 450 conversion but going with the CRF 250 motor would put it in a much more interesting class... i've always wondered if anyone had attempted this yet, and now that i see a couple of those quads complete, i think it is well worth it...

I would use the 450r chassis, cuz the parts are easy to get ahold of and the chassis has a nice look to pop in that motor... So are you gonna make it a modded quad, or keep everything stock but the motor??? i think a fully modded CRF 250 R would be tight!!!

PS, pappy did you get my hubs and rear brake to powdercoat yet>?> if not it should be there in a couple days... also, your exhaust is in that box also... any questions on the PC job or anything, shoot me a pm

[Pappy]

xsr_racing28c

everything arrived today.

[WhiteZee]

i would seriously consider a 250r frame, the distance from the foot pegs to the seat is a lot less then the 450r, i think your son will have problems reaching the pegs while leaning, i have problems with it.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i would seriously consider a 250r frame, the distance from the foot pegs to the seat is a lot less then the 450r, i think your son will have problems reaching the pegs while leaning, i have problems with it.

ever hear of custom pegs:devil: heck i might even chop the frame height:eek:

[JDiablo]

So watcha doin here pappy?250 engine in a YFZ frame or wat?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 300exrida
So watcha doin here pappy?250 engine in a YFZ frame or wat?

i have secured a new 450R frame and subframe. and i have purchased all the needed suspension parts (hubs, calipers brackets etc) and a trip to Burgards will net me the a arms, stem and swing arm.


all i need to do now is find me the engine:) it would be much easier to do a yfz hybrid because the engines (250cc thumper) are easier to come by

[JDiablo]

wow pretty sweet,can't wait to see her done:D

[SRH]

id just get him a 450r or 400ex and let him run it, the 250fs have more power than a 400ex and close to a stock 450r

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
id just get him a 450r or 400ex and let him run it, the 250fs have more power than a 400ex and close to a stock 450r

the point is i build quads. i dont want to run out like 400,000 other folks and buy him one that i can build for less...and better:devil:

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
the point is i build quads. i dont want to run out like 400,000 other folks and buy him one that i can build for less...and better:devil:

just remember the crf 250 is a high maintence motor

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
just remember the crf 250 is a high maintence motor

good thing i have a mechanic on staff;)

what do you take me for? i have built almost $100,000 in quads in the last 18 months and not one of them has blown up, broken down or fallen apart.

i do believe i can manage:p

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
good thing i have a mechanic on staff;)

what do you take me for? i have built almost $100,000 in quads in the last 18 months and not one of them has blown up, broken down or fallen apart.

i do believe i can manage:p

thats because you dotn ride them after you build them :p having a fat wallet doesnt mean you know anything about dirtbikes:huh

[YFZ450Ridr]

so do u have any pics of what all you have so far? this sounds like one hell of a projecet! i wish my dad would build somethin like that for me, ever consider an adoption:devil:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
thats because you dotn ride them after you build them :p having a fat wallet doesnt mean you know anything about dirtbikes:huh

i dont ride them? i bet you ive run more races then you have this season. i garuntee the bikes ive built have been thrashed since ive built them, infact i know they have.

btw..how many races did you run on your factory yfz with a few bolt on parts?

my wallet isnt connected to my brain. it takes money to make money, dont mistake that for unintelligence. maybe you need to spend more time on the seat of that yfz before you bark out who doesnt ride what.

and i dont pretend to be joe racer, but i wont be belittled by some arm chair know it all. get out in the garage and do some work on quads before you spout off to someone who has a wrench in his hand 7 days a week sport

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 250EXridr
so do u have any pics of what all you have so far? this sounds like one hell of a projecet!

as of right now all thats being done is aquiring the needed parts to see what is what. the engine will be the hardest to get and may involve the purchase of a new bike to donor the damn thing:p

[derekhonda]

Originally posted by Pappy
the point is i build quads. i dont want to run out like 400,000 other folks and buy him one that i can build for less...and better:devil:

I understand exactly where you are coming from, and am no way trying to raise your kids for you because i know you hate that (and i woulda already ****ed up im sure)

But you are taking him from a 90, which he has clearly mastered, to (if you go the 250cc thumper route) a bike that is somewhere in the mid to high thirties in horsepower. There should be some step in between in my opinion, stick him on a 300ex or 400ex for a year, might not be as special to him or to you, but its a critical stage.

and, if you go the 250cc route, stay away from the 2001 yammy, no auto decompressor lever and its a pain

[SRH]

sorry i cant help it i ride stock...and your rigth i only have about 14 races down this year, never mind i will never make a comment to you again


by the way...whats not bolt on about your 450r?

[Pappy]

derek...do you honestly think i would blindly throw any 11 year old on such a machine?

the point is i want to build it and i shall. infact i may have orders for more depending n how the bike comes out.

i could turn cody loose on my R and not have a second thought...simply because the kids has brains and doesnt ride like an ***. he respects power.

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
derek...do you honestly think i would blindly throw any 11 year old on such a machine?

the point is i want to build it and i shall. infact i may have orders for more depending n how the bike comes out.

i could turn cody loose on my R and not have a second thought...simply because the kids has brains and doesnt ride like an ***. he respects power.

im sure your kid could handle it, hes got the same riding style as me, check out my avatar, i think you referred to it as textbook...

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH


by the way...whats not bolt on about your 450r?

lets just say your way out of your league when you question my ability to build anything. i have to prove things to myself...noone else.

as far as whats not bolt on? lets just say i dont throw down my hand until the pot gets big. you want to know...bring the yfz and your attitude here and ill show ya.:D

[derekhonda]

Originally posted by Pappy
derek...do you honestly think i would blindly throw any 11 year old on such a machine?

the point is i want to build it and i shall. infact i may have orders for more depending n how the bike comes out.

i could turn cody loose on my R and not have a second thought...simply because the kids has brains and doesnt ride like an ***. he respects power.

Well, i just havnt been paying a whole great deal of attention to this thread, but thats what it sounded like you were hinting at. Either way, i do believe he could manage the power, but he probably would be faster on a machine more suitable to his needs. Either way, youll make the right decision, always do...

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
im sure your kid could handle it, hes got the same riding style as me, check out my avatar, i think you referred to it as textbook...

he has more style and class then you will ever have ..riding or not. you are arguing over a hypothetical quad and my ability to build it.

i have the record to stand on. nuff said

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
lets just say your way out of your league when you question my ability to build anything. i have to prove things to myself...noone else.

as far as whats not bolt on? lets just say i dont throw down my hand until the pot gets big. you want to know...bring the yfz and your attitude here and ill show ya.:D

pappy i think your way out of your league i dotn mean to be a dick but your kid was going bigger on his trx 90 than you were on your 450r,and you looked like you were about to fall off the back and i could build your 450r...i know your proud of your son and what you have and what you can do but dont get carried away, i mean derek is right thats a big jump, and your r to me isnt all that special....sure its pretty but in my opinion you get too carried away with pc and polish, maybe y oull be on the next monster garage ...i mean i like something thats usable...u wana get pissed at me and get me banned thats up to you i replied to your post trying to give you some pointers and you replied like y ou were some god...

[Pappy]

Originally posted by derekhonda
Well, i just havnt been paying a whole great deal of attention to this thread, but thats what it sounded like you were hinting at. Either way, i do believe he could manage the power, but he probably would be faster on a machine more suitable to his needs. Either way, youll make the right decision, always do...

i dont think he could handle the power...not yet. but he is at that age where the next 3 years he will grow like a weed and the quad will be there for him to grow into.

the power doesnt concern me as much as the weight. he has the brains to know when to stay off the throttle and get on the brakes but the controling factor is that he isnt physically strong enough, or even heavy enough to handle the quad. alot of growing gets done between 11 and 14 and thats when the project will pay off.

and if i do a good job on it and just so happen to sell 4 or 5 of them then so be it.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
pappy i think your way out of your league i dotn mean to be a dick but your kid was going bigger on his trx 90 than you were on your 450r,and you looked like you were about to fall off the back and i could build your 450r...i know your proud of your son and what you have and what you can do but dont get carried away, i mean derek is right thats a big jump, and your r to me isnt all that special....sure its pretty but in my opinion you get too carried away with pc and polish, maybe y oull be on the next monster garage ...i mean i like something thats usable...u wana get pissed at me and get me banned thats up to you i replied to your post trying to give you some pointers and you replied like y ou were some god...

pay attention to what i post.

and again...why worry about me? im nobody..just another person in the world. why waste your time? '


so build it if you can...nothing stopping you ...is it?

[Mxjunkie]

eh im going out on a limb here but srh needs a chill pill :ermm:

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
pay attention to what i post.

and again...why worry about me? im nobody..just another person in the world. why waste your time? '


so build it if you can...nothing stopping you ...is it?

yeah i dont want a 450r thats whats stopping me

[EPDP99]

yeah I agree that ur r looks like chit!!!!










Yeah right, im thinking someones alittle jealous.

[SRH]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
eh im going out on a limb here but srh needs a chill pill :ermm:

sorry alot of you kids look up to pappy but im not going to let him talk down to me ...its ridiculous

sorry i just dont liek the looks of pappys r, i think it looks bad...im not jealous i like the looks and parts that are on my quad more...im done here i cant battle with pappy and his army lol

[Mxjunkie]

Originally posted by SRH
sorry alot of you kids look up to pappy but im not going to let him talk down to me ...its ridiculous

you aruging with pappy is ridiculous, if he belives and wants to do it, why even bother? and its not only kids that look up to pappy i might add..;)

just grow up and be mature and dont agrue, hard to belive a 14 year old is telling you this..:o

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
yeah i dont want a 450r thats whats stopping me



oh it sa honda vs yammy thing? paleeze. ive owned both, built both and like both.

i think your just a sour person.

[Syrus]

Originally posted by SRH
sorry alot of you kids look up to pappy but im not going to let him talk down to me ...its ridiculous

sorry i just dont liek the looks of pappys r, i think it looks bad...im not jealous i like the looks and parts that are on my quad more...im done here i cant battle with pappy and his army lol

SRH, i seem to recall doing a flame battle on the boards with you last night, u just dont give up, do ya ? First you diss Canada, then you go and diss Pappy, and his quad that he worked on, and bought with his own money, I dont think he really care what you think of it, or he would of asked you before he built it. So since its his, just keep ur comments to yourself, before you get banned from the boards.

And why wouldnt pappy go crazy with the powerdercoating and polishing ? He owns his own PC business, who wouldnt powdercoat every possible part if you have the option for free .. ?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
sorry alot of you kids look up to pappy but im not going to let him talk down to me ...its ridiculous

sorry i just dont liek the looks of pappys r, i think it looks bad...

i give what i get bud...if you dont like it review the posts youve made. no army...i am an army of one;)


and you dont have to like my R ...you dont even have to like me. i build my quads to suit me...my tastes and make myself smile when i ride them.

so here just to make sure you get that bad taste in your mouth one more time:chinese: i think you get off thinking your a big man because you disagree with me...lol.

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
oh it sa honda vs yammy thing? paleeze. ive owned both, built both and like both.

i think your just a sour person.

where do you get that from, if i wanted a 450r i would of bought one....i wanted a yfz...maybe i am sour...but i like it, i just really dont like taking crap from people on the internet, i think its stupid you feel you have the right to talk down to me because your an ex rider moderator with hundreds of kids who idolize you goodluck with your quad im sure youll be doing all the welding and fabrication, cant wait to see the pics

[Mxjunkie]

all that matters is, everyone builds something to suite their needs,wants and intrests, and theres a good in everything they build, and a bad, but if you dont like what they built, then just say it in a nice way, or say, i like this type of plastic etc etc..then everyones happy and theres no bashing or hard feelings..:)

[derekhonda]

respect man, it goes a long ways, and you gotta give to receive

[SRH]

Originally posted by derekhonda
respect man, it goes a long ways, and you gotta give to receive

:( crap i dont really respect people i dont know

[BSTURDIVANT]

I think that if you pay attention to what Pappy says- he is like 100s of us on here that want to be unique and build something that hasn't been built yet! Sounds like a project that could end up in a production one day- Cobra has!!

[Pappy]

trust me dude. i will talk smack to you in person. i cant stand the internet either simply because computer muscles get pumped and when there is a face to face meeting some how it was all taken out of context. ill back up what ever i say on the net in person and thats a promise.

and i dont come off like a moderator...i say what i feel and state my opinions openly (just like you) but the problem is i am a mod so that makes me a target. well shoot away because your firing blanks.

i dont let anything go to my head either so keep convincing yourself thats the case. i help more folks out on this site then you would even dream of. and yes...sometimes it costs me money but i was taught you do right and good things will come to you. so far thats been workin.

and yes...ill be doing the welding and fabrication. i have that technology:macho

[YFZ450Ridr]

just dont be a hardazz about it, theres no point in fighting over the net, especially on a forum site all it gets you is banned.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by BSTURDIVANT
I think that if you pay attention to what Pappy says- he is like 100s of us on here that want to be unique and build something that hasn't been built yet!

yeah well i want to know what you guys have up your sleeves since you sold off the R's:scary:

[SRH]

Originally posted by 250EXridr
just dont be a hardazz about it, theres no point in fighting over the net, especially on a forum site all it gets you is banned.

i know that im not fighting with him even tho it may seem that way just disagreeing were poking fun both ways, i think the crf project would be cool ...pappy said he wasnt familiar with bikes so i just reminded him the crf is as much or more maintence than 2 stroke and he seemed to come off really cocky.. so i fired right back...so many misunderstandings on the internet...

[BSTURDIVANT]

Just like you- building from the ground up- will contact you about powdercoat when were done with frames! Yes still with Rs-just not with any big bores!! Way too much power and like to break ankles!!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
so i just reminded him the crf is as much or more maintence than 2 stroke and he seemed to come off really cocky..

why not tell me something important...like the weight center will be too far biased to the rear and it will handle like a fat kid riding a tonka truck? why not tell me the engine maybe too narrow and the kick start may not come close to clearing the frame? why not tell me the engine has a tendency to need the valves adjusted damn near every 2 hours. why not tell me......


just because i dont post alot of tech information doesnt mean im not knowledgable. maybe i am trying not to come off like a know it all and would like to include the membership in problem solving and working out problems associated with a build?

srh...you have made too many people think your attitude is that of a freshly banded bull and it gets you no where. if your goal is to see how many people think your a highly pissed off sourpuss then buddy...you are on the right course:D

[YFZ450Ridr]

Originally posted by SRH
i know that im not fighting with him even tho it may seem that way just disagreeing were poking fun both ways, i think the crf project would be cool ...pappy said he wasnt familiar with bikes so i just reminded him the crf is as much or more maintence than 2 stroke and he seemed to come off really cocky.. so i fired right back...so many misunderstandings on the internet...

i wasnt really drecting it at you i was jsut saying that if people wouldnt fight as much this place would be worlds better.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by BSTURDIVANT
Way too much power and like to break ankles!!

mine broke 2 bones in my foot 2 weeks ago:( never try and start one of them things in sneakers:mad:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 250EXridr
i wasnt really drecting it at you i was jsut saying that if people wouldnt fight as much this place would be worlds better.

this isnt fighting. there hasnt been a good fight on here for a few years now:p

srh knows what im saying and he will battle wits with me in the future. no hard feelings...its just the way some people bicker:macho

[exatak199]

in my sig

V V V

[Pappy]

Originally posted by exatak199
in my sig

V V V

people who use that expression are trying to cover the fact they dont have the intellect to openly debate an issue. the whole purpose of an arguement is to sort out issues. unfortunatley most people cant get thier thought process working well enough to express themselves in a meaningful manner:D

[400EXrider#91]

Originally posted by SRH
he seemed to come off really cocky.. so i fired right back...so many misunderstandings on the internet...

well i just read this whole freaking thread over just so i didn't misread anything. SRH i don't see how you feel pappy came off cocky at all the misunderstanding here is you have no clue how smart pappy is...nor how much this man will go outta his way to help a fellow rider

[exrider360]

what did i miss someone get me updated on here. id read it but there alof ot replies.

[CEET400ex]

I think Pappy kind of jumped the gun on this one. You're a moderator. I think one of the qualifications of being a mod is to set an example for the rest of the members, which I believe you have failed to do in this thread.:rolleyes:

[LazeR]

Originally posted by CEET400ex
I think Pappy kind of jumped the gun on this one. You're a moderator. I think one of the qualifications of being a mod is to set an example for the rest of the members, which I believe you have failed to do in this thread.:rolleyes:

That's the thing, Pappy doesn't go around being like im the moderator so do what i say!....He's just like one of the normal members...and he acts like a normal member until someone goes way outa line or posts something inappropriate! Then he acts appropriately. Just my .02

[Pappy]

Originally posted by CEET400ex
I think Pappy kind of jumped the gun on this one. You're a moderator. I think one of the qualifications of being a mod is to set an example for the rest of the members, which I believe you have failed to do in this thread.:rolleyes:


thanks for the info. i dont have to set an example because i am a mod, and when someone tries to kick me in the nutz i will respond, just because alot of folks cant get thier brain out of 1st gear doesnt mean i will gear down to wait up for them. this is the information superhighway not joe's driving school:D

[Rico]

Originally posted by CEET400ex
I think Pappy kind of jumped the gun on this one. You're a moderator. I think one of the qualifications of being a mod is to set an example for the rest of the members, which I believe you have failed to do in this thread.:rolleyes:

That's why I stepped down as a mod. I was ready to start talkin smack and being an azzhole, tired of being a nice guy.....:devil: :devil:

[jcv400ex]

I'd use the 450r base. OEM parts are even CHEAPER than 400ex stuff. Honda made racing affordable again!

[jcv400ex]

BTW Kenny, Is BK Performance...... Big Kitty Performance?!!? :p :devil:

[SGA]

Originally posted by Rico
That's why I stepped down as a mod. I was ready to start talkin smack and being an azzhole, tired of being a nice guy.....:devil: :devil:
One of them trouble maker types.:scary:

[SRH]

Originally posted by CEET400ex
I think Pappy kind of jumped the gun on this one. You're a moderator. I think one of the qualifications of being a mod is to set an example for the rest of the members, which I believe you have failed to do in this thread.:rolleyes:


ahh he can still say what he wants or should whether i or anyone else agree with it

[Pappy]

Originally posted by jcv400ex
BTW Kenny, Is BK Performance...... Big Kitty Performance?!!? :p :devil:

meow:devil:

[xsr_racing28c]

haha this is all BS... i think we should solve this little arguement with a poll on whos quad (SRH or Pappy) is better... how bout SRH posts his pic of his quad, and Pappy posts a pic of his and let the battle begin..

SRH, this ones for you !! Have you personally ever done business with Ken?? Well if you have done business with him and have gotten parts pc'd by him, or have boughten parts from him, you would know very well that this guy is a genuine person. You would also realize WHY everyone looks up to him, both as a builder and a person.. Personally, i think that his quad is an amazing piece of machinery, and most of all it reflects him as a person.. AND that by far should be 100% respected!!!Through thick and thin, pappy has went about to service all of his customers to the best of his ability, and that is something that most can't find these days... Most men that are as respected as him would take it for granted, but it seems to me that Ken never can have enough friendships, and that is an awesome trait!!!

Thanks for everything Pappy!!!!

[SRH]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
, pappy has went about to service all of his customers to the best of his ability, and that is something that most can't find these days...

i know the police have really cracked down on prostituition...

[Pappy]

Originally posted by SRH
i know the police have really cracked down on prostituition...

you said you wouldnt tell:(

so gimme back my money ******:devil:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
Have you personally ever done business with Ken?? Well if you have done business with him and have gotten parts pc'd by him, or have boughten parts from him, you would know very well that this guy is a genuine person. You would also realize WHY everyone looks up to him, both as a builder and a person.. Personally, i think that his quad is an amazing piece of machinery, and most of all it reflects him as a person.. AND that by far should be 100% respected!!!Through thick and thin, pappy has went about to service all of his customers to the best of his ability, and that is something that most can't find these days... Most men that are as respected as him would take it for granted, but it seems to me that Ken never can have enough friendships, and that is an awesome trait!!!

Thanks for everything Pappy!!!!


wow....that pretty thoughtful of you. i never sat back and realized what i look like in other people's eyes. i just do what makes me happy and roll on:p i do appreciate the kind words tho:)

[xsr_racing28c]

no prob man, just stating was i think about you.. it really pisses me off when a guy comes on here and attempts to rip apart someone that is so well respected... i am so sure that many others on here would say the same things that i stated earlier...

it just goes to show how imature this "SRH" is by saying that **** bout prostitution.. oh well, if you stick 30,000 plus people on a site, theres bound to be a couple dumbass' in the group right?? lol

[xsr_racing28c]

Oh yea, so is SRH gonna post some pics or what?? it seems like he can talk it up real good, but lets see if he can back up his words... wheres the YFZ???

[SRH]

shut

[SRH]

up

[SRH]

brrrrrrrrrrooooooooo

[Pappy]

im lockin her down:(

i dont want no fighting going on. it looks bad when its all BS.

maybe ill post pics when im done, maybe i wont.:ermm: