shocks came today

[ZRider400]

C/D racing sent me these shocks faster than i thought they would:eek:

thanks C and D racing ! :devil:

these turned out sweet.... cant wait to test them. (which wont be for a couple more months.....damn winter/snow)

http://predator.bikepics.com/pics/suzuki-drz400-02-bikepics-254901.jpg

[kazpr]

Is there anyway the tops can be powdercoated on these shocks? Like the reservoirs?

[R3Concepts]

Looks nice.

[Jersey450R]

do these lower the ride height like this? Zrider, pm me with a price please, thank you.

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by kazpr
Is there anyway the tops can be powdercoated on these shocks? Like the reservoirs?

they can probably be anodized a diff color.

[kazpr]

Get them put on and a picture taken!!

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by kazpr
Get them put on and a picture taken!!

i will once i get a-arms (havnt decided yet.... tryin to choose from burgard , JB racing, JD performance........)

and when ever i get frame back etc.

[Zwanter]

i thought you had a arms?....

[jeepnrocks]

how do you adjust the preload on the fronts ?

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Zwanter
i thought you had a arms?....

i did and sold them

wanted to start out with a new set.

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by jeepnrocks
how do you adjust the preload on the fronts ?

they are zps as in zero preload

[jeepnrocks]

thats a bit more expensive than the standare triple rate setup correct ?

[JRDrider22]

they are very nice. good job C and D!


hope you the best with the shocks

[rap169]

are the bottom springs stock ones cut down?

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by rap169
are the bottom springs stock ones cut down?

haha NO

[R3Concepts]

It was a simple question, dont be a jerk.

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by R3Concepts426ex
It was a simple question, dont be a jerk.

easy killer.

didnt say that in a way of being a "jerk" thats just how i talk.

its just kinda obvious that when having a shock revalve/resprung they wouldnt cut the springs.... because most of the time they use stiffer springs that are setup for the specific rider weight/skill and how much the a-arms are extended.

[R3Concepts]

Well this is how I talk, dont try to explain aftermarket shocks to me, especially your STOCKERS. Second let the guy know, instead of saying "NO". Tell him, C and D offers new springs with the package that I got and this is what they did, and so on.

[chris450R]

Originally posted by ZRider400
they are zps as in zero preload

what is better about zps over preload adjustable? what does the zps do to make it better?

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by R3Concepts426ex
Well this is how I talk, dont try to explain aftermarket shocks to me, especially your STOCKERS. Second let the guy know, instead of saying "NO". Tell him, C and D offers new springs with the package that I got and this is what they did, and so on.

are you done yet? :rolleyes:

lmao MY STOCKERS oh damn....you hurt my feelings.

sorry man but not everyone can afford pep shocks.

you sure know alot about MY STOCKERS, sorry for explaining shocks to you......but if you knew so much why didnt you just tell him? woulda made your post a lil more useful.

alright now back on subject.:huh

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by chris450R
what is better about zps over preload adjustable? what does the zps do to make it better?

zps lowers the quad a few inches, while still having the same amount of travel.


if you guys have any more questions , then you can search and check out the old thread. there was ALOT of info posted in it about this conversion.

[R3Concepts]

And your post telling rap169 " No" was useful? Right. Maybe if YOU actually knew what C&D did to your shocks then maybe you could explain it to rap169?:rolleyes:

[ZRider400]

man whats your deal? i just said what they did in the previous post.

when i posted "no" IT WAS AT 6:45 AM AND I WAS GETTING READY AND ABOUT TO LEAVE. ever think of that? i dont always have time to post stuff.

god dayum. i think you should take a breather from online...go outside...breath some fresh air. it will do you good.
wanna keep chatting about this? then PM me. stop filling this thread up with useless stuff.

and back on subject...... AGAIN.

heres the link to the old thread if you guys wanna see more info about it.

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127895&highlight=c+and+d+shock+conversion

[jeepnrocks]

i just called c&d and thats what mine are being set up as. i thought their regular package just had the standard preload adjustment that came on the shock. had them setup for b class rider, cant wait to try them out. i also paid an extra 75 for the extra inch of travel in the rear shock.

[ZRider400]

sweet man.

any more info about the extra inch in the rear? i didnt know they offered that.

[R3Concepts]

LMAO, No you said they were zero preload, not what spring rates or brand of springs that they used, is it a triple rate with a sag spring or dual rate with a sag spring....blah blah blah. Just a quick question of my own.. where does C&D think your bike will sit at? The collar looks to be run all the way up already?

[ZRider400]

they explain everything in this thread about the conversion they do. so check it out.
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127895&highlight=c+and+d+shock+conversion

[jeepnrocks]

hey guys, i think one of the links before has info about the extra inch of travel. its a little older and they basically said they were working with the internals of the shock to get some extra travel out of it. the package uses tcs springs and for an extra 75 dollars you can get the extra inch of travel. thats not a bad price at all in my opinion. i charge my girlfrien by the inch and she gets away at just under 100 bucks :eek: :eek: :eek:
before processing my order they asked me the normal stuff
weight with gear, type of riding, and how i would rate my ability.
I should have the shocks back tuesday after next along with my 13:1 piston i ordered.

[jeepnrocks]

p.s. im camera happy, so when i get them back and on the quad i will post so many pics that you guys will be sick of looking at the 450r haha :macho

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by jeepnrocks
p.s. im camera happy, so when i get them back and on the quad i will post so many pics that you guys will be sick of looking at the 450r haha :macho

looking forward to seeing them:devil:

i'll be the same way once i get my frame back from getting PC'ed, new arms and then eventually put the quad back together.

oh ya and i'll be getting a new axle too, because my durablue "twisted" :huh im getting a new replacement then selling that one....and getting LSR.

[jeepnrocks]

here is a 450r without shocks haha... looks kinda mean this way

http://trx450********.ipbhost.com/uploads/post-2-1102385191.jpg
http://trx450********.ipbhost.com/uploads/post-2-1102385263.jpg

[ZRider400]

haha....nice

[450r#221]

Im still learning about shock upgrades,so go easy on me,but got a few questions.What is the price difference between revalved stock and Elka/Axis/PEP etc. ?Can i get shocks now and A arms later?Im a C class rider working toward B Do i really need high$$$ shocks or will revalved STOCKERS (haha) be enough? Is the difference from stock to
revalved highly noticable and is the difference from revalved to high$$$ even more noticable?And last question, Do i nedd to decide on standard or long travel a arms first or will the shocks work on both?

[jeepnrocks]

hey 450r221,
i havent got mine yet so i cant tell you how different they are but from what i heard they are really sweet. if you were to get a set of front elkas, bottom of the barrel the only adjustment they would have is preload (pretty sure) and they would set you back around 500(pretty sure)
once you get your shocks revalved you cannot (shouldnt) change to longer a-arms and a long travel setup requires a completely different shock.
I would guess these are as good as standard travel aftermarket shocks becasue that is essentially what they are.
I have heard, but cannot speak from experience, that a well dialed in standard travel is very close to a long travel setup in performance for most riders

[ZRider400]

ive ridden with TCS shocks, and elka shocks b4 so im really excited to test these out and compare them to fully aftermarket.......but again....winter:ermm:

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by 450r#221
Im still learning about shock upgrades,so go easy on me,but got a few questions.What is the price difference between revalved stock and Elka/Axis/PEP etc. ?Can i get shocks now and A arms later?Im a C class rider working toward B Do i really need high$$$ shocks or will revalved STOCKERS (haha) be enough? Is the difference from stock to
revalved highly noticable and is the difference from revalved to high$$$ even more noticable?And last question, Do i nedd to decide on standard or long travel a arms first or will the shocks work on both?

the price difference is alot....

front/rear revalve from c/d racing is 550

elka front shocks with rezzys and compression adjust..... around 750+

rear shock....even more $$$

i didnt have enough cash right now , and NEEDED suspension this comming season so that is why i went with the c/d
setup.
next winter i will be upgrading to long travel though:devil:

[450r#221]

SO what you saying is that the revalved shocks are designed and or intended to be used only on stock size a arms?Id like to go +2up front . Is that considered long travel ? Or is long travel those gull wing shaped arms?

[jeepnrocks]

there are 2 types of plus 2 a-arms. standard and long travel. you couldhave the stock shocks revalved to work with the standard +2, but a long travel a-arm requires a longer shock.

[450r#221]

Thanks alot.Thats what im gonna do.I talked to a few people about going to a high compression piston but they said dial in the suspension first. Id like to do it all but its big$$$.Sound like ill worry about the piston when tax money comes in . :rolleyes:

[ZRider400]

thats the whole reason i had these shocks redone, so that they would be setup for my +2 a-arms.

you give them your specs and they set them up exact for you.

[450r#221]

My problem is ,I dont have enough $ for the shocks and the arms together.So id like to get the shocks now,use them with my stock arms,and get the+2 arms later and not have to get new shocks. Also if the revalved shocks are only slightly better than stock ,ill just suck it up, wait and save for elka's or something.

[jeepnrocks]

hey z how does the height adjustment work ?

[rap169]

its ok...no offense taken. Lol. I didnt think that stock springs would be used, but they just look too much like stock in that red color. I wish they used something different. White would be nice. Sorry for the stupid question and causing alot of posts that were off topic.

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by rap169
its ok...no offense taken. Lol. I didnt think that stock springs would be used, but they just look too much like stock in that red color. I wish they used something different. White would be nice. Sorry for the stupid question and causing alot of posts that were off topic.

no big deal man.... sorry i didnt fully explain it, i just thought everyone read that other post about them.....but i guess not.

ya they are the same as stock color. they do have TCS printed on them though but it cant be seen in the pic.

[R3Concepts]

Save up the money and get arms and the shocks revalved at the same time, the valving will be super stiff if you run the stock arms with shocks that are set up for +2s. The ride height on those shocks is that top collar. But it doesnt look like you can use a spanner wrench on it. Did they set it up with a c-clip collar or a pinch bolt collar and you cant see it?

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by R3Concepts426ex
Save up the money and get arms and the shocks revalved at the same time, the valving will be super stiff if you run the stock arms with shocks that are set up for +2s. The ride height on those shocks is that top collar. But it doesnt look like you can use a spanner wrench on it. Did they set it up with a c-clip collar or a pinch bolt collar and you cant see it?

this is what Colby from C&D racing told me for adjusting ride height.

"If you were to remove the springs you will notice that the cross overs are different length. You can switch them around it will change the ride height."

[R3Concepts]

Hmm.... crossovers should be used to change spring rates, not adjust the ride height.

[450r#221]

Hey jeepnrocks,Did you get those shocks yet?If so ,how do you like them and what A arms did you get? Im going to get mine soon if the feedback is good.

[450 Racer R]

post pics of install too

[jeepnrocks]

nope, i talked to c&d today and they said the springs should be in from tcs today or tomorrow and they would probably be shipping them out monday. I'll post up a bunch of pics as soon as i get them