Firearms

[Pappy]

well, i havent been happy with the finish on my 11-87 since i bought it 2 years ago.

about 2 weeks ago i slipped out for some squirrell huntin and when i got back in i forgot to wipe the firearm down (dad on life support so i have an excuse:p )

anyway, i decided to refinsh the shotgun, starting with the reciever. you can see the barrel and thats pretty much what the reciever used to look like also:mad:

[Pappy]

the finished reciever

[red]

is that pc

[Pappy]

Originally posted by red
is that pc

nope, its a new coating process ive started doing. this particulair coating is made for firearms but can be used elsewhere

[red]

how do u find time to do all this....man i must just be really lazy

[Bush0102]

is it a coating you invented?

looks good, as always!

[Ericthered rdr]

Hmmm I got a very old Winchester that need reblueing It would look good in that finish...Hmmmmm......

[JDiablo]

i think it is the molycoating stuff looks sweet i alreayd have some stuff done in it

[MY450R]

is it moly??
looks real nice there pappy

[Pappy]

lol no i didnt invent it.

i started doing molycoating and found this process also. its still a form of moly ..or i can use teflon based coating.

they offer 14 different colors but so far matt black has been the easiest. ill try up some other colors on a few race guns i have.

[JDiablo]

what other colors are avaliable pappy?:devil:

[Pappy]

the usual...

gloss black, matt black, red, blue, silver, matt silver, olive drab, and now gun blue color which i cant wait to try out on one of my carry guns...its a bit wore down:p

[sharkinthepool]

It sort of looks like the parkerizing that comes on the express's


how durable is it???

[Pappy]

yes its very similiar to the factory finish but a bit higher quality (or so i hope..lol)

the factory finish rusts if you look at it, this stuff is supposed to hold up and passed the 500 hour salt spray test. (hell of a note, ill spray it down with water and let her sit for a few days to see:eek: )

impact resistance blows away any normal coating so it should be pretty tuff

[JDiablo]

well pappy im going to have to make a list of "high wear" parts to send to you to try out the diffrent colors if you get them:D

[cletusEX]

I talked to you about doing this to one of my duck guns and it looks sweet, I'll be in touch with you in a few weeks.:D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by cletusEX
I talked to you about doing this to one of my duck guns and it looks sweet, I'll be in touch with you in a few weeks.:D

i had you in mind the entire time i was doing this one:p

[YLW400]

my 870 looks like poo....maybe I could get that done :D

[Bush0102]

Originally posted by 300exrida
well pappy im going to have to make a list of "high wear" parts to send to you to try out the diffrent colors if you get them:D

high wear?? Dont tell me you want to molycoat your banana!:p

[Pappy]

Originally posted by YLW400
my 870 looks like poo....maybe I could get that done :D

well let me make sure this stuff does as they say and id be happy to hook you up.

its expensive...it might cost you and cletus a duck hunting trip:devil:

[JDiablo]

no,lol maybe the bottom of my steering stem....and some other lil sutff

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by Pappy
yes its very similiar to the factory finish but a bit higher quality (or so i hope..lol)

the factory finish rusts if you look at it, this stuff is supposed to hold up and passed the 500 hour salt spray test. (hell of a note, ill spray it down with water and let her sit for a few days to see:eek: )

impact resistance blows away any normal coating so it should be pretty tuff


Damn PAP I wish you would of had that a few weeks ago. I sold my 870 wingmaster slug gun and spent a boookooo of cash on a berreta for deer season. If you would have had that I would have just coated the 870 and kept it. It was beyond blueing (someone got silicone on it and it just would not take blueing anymore) so that would have been a good option.

[YLW400]

there are no ducks in Delaware! :blah: :D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by YLW400
there are no ducks in Delaware! :blah: :D

you lie:devil:



i did a batch today along with the reciever.

these are the small brackets that bolt to a 450R headpipe to hold the heatshields in place, and the small shield

[Pappy]

the throttle assembly turned out like new. my wife even b!tched me out thinking i had bought a new one:p

[Pappy]

supposedly it also acts to disapate heat so a oil cooler was done:)

[Pappy]

even did some ball joints.

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
even did some ball joints.

are those mine?i noticed the balljoints were darker then when i sent them to you?:D

[Pappy]

no i didnt have this stuff (the matt color) when i pc'd your quad or i gladly would have.

[JDiablo]

yea just wondering,lol but still great work:D

[Ralph]

So you gonna let us in on what this stuff is? is it sprayed like powder or paint. Baked...?:confused:

[JDiablo]

i have some parts done alreayd in this,it is a very very thin paint like substance that pappy said needs a curing time ,i forgot how much it is,and no need to worry about messing up threads and what not,i think paps siad it goes on .004 inches or something:eek2:

[Pappy]

its a dry film lubricant thats sprayed as a liquid over prepped metal. its then cured at 325 for an hour

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Pappy
its a dry film lubricant thats sprayed as a liquid over prepped metal. its then cured at 325 for an hour

sounds very cool, and perfect for my temperature ranges. You gonna try a frame in it?

[Pappy]

no its way to expensive for something as large as a frame..atleast for me

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Pappy
no its way to expensive for something as large as a frame..atleast for me


nevermind that idea then. Is it up there with chroming?

[Pappy]

no chrome work is pricey but you get what you pay for.

the expense in this is again, prep work and materials. the actual agent used in the coating is only around $30 a pint

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Pappy
no chrome work is pricey but you get what you pay for.

the expense in this is again, prep work and materials. the actual agent used in the coating is only around $30 a pint

so it wouldnt be worth it for you to do your own frame? I would imagine prep is similar to powerocating and at 30$ a pint it shouldnt be all that expensive.

What am i missing here?

[Pappy]

there really wouldnt be any benefit over pc on such a large object. this substance/coating is designed for certain things and it does them well. i dont think the appearence would be all that flattering on such a large object, and there really isnt any use for the lubricating qualities associated with this coating. it could be done mind you, but why i cant answer:p


now, on to the other side of this. if you dont have a proper spray booth yer screwed. thus stuff will stick and coat anything it contacts and there isnt any getting it off. then, you have to have a supplied air respirator because certain colors contain lead. its pretty harmless unless you did alot of parts without protection etc. im tested monthly for lead thru work so im good to go:p

for small parts and firearms (im sure there are many many other uses) this stuff seems like the cats meow. time will tell as i beat the snot out of it and see what the real story is:p

[Woodsrider]

Pappy, im very interested in getting some of this for a 38 special that was my fathers when he passed away, would it be too much to ask to get a link to the supplier sent to me in a pm?

[Pappy]

id be happy to send it to ya.


did a little more playin:eek2:

[Ralph]

is that stuff anything like ceramic, i know you spray that on liquid and the cure in an oven.

[Pappy]

yes the headpipe is ceramic coated

[JDiablo]

pappy you cermaic coated your headpipe?how much will it be to do a HMF 400ex one?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 300exrida
pappy you cermaic coated your headpipe?how much will it be to do a HMF 400ex one?

send it up...ill coat it but you gotta polish it:scary:

[JDiablo]

word,ill pay for shipping both ways and if you got some of that red polishing compound stuff you were telling me about,no places around here got it,so ill buy some off ya,just let me know how much i should throw in the box,and ill throw in the money for rims and tires too hopefully if i don't spend it :mad:

[Pappy]

www.eastwoodcompany.com has all the stuff you need. i just saw they started carring zoop seal so that should make a few folks happy.


get your self some 000 steel wool. you will need that to polish your pipe:eek2:

[JDiablo]

i actually got 00 and 0000 wool that i bought the other day,and of course then don got tripe 0 wool,can i send up my rear hubs to to get PC'd real quick too?:devil: just the look of them makes me sick:scary: lol

[Pappy]

00 or 000 should be ok

throw the hubs in with the pipe but wash them first:o

[JDiablo]

yea yea i know the drill already:devil:

[JDiablo]

do you want me to polish to pipe before i send it out to you?or or you coat it first then i polish it?

[Pappy]

just degrease it and wash it really good. then dry it and send it

[JDiablo]

Ok it is unused so it shouldnt be that hard,ill try sending that stuff out today,if not ill do it ASAP monday

[Woodsrider]

Pappy I just got to checkin my email and noticed my pm in-box has been full for over two months:o I cleaned it out, so could you send that again?