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6858-400ex
11-17-2004, 06:03 PM
what horespower does the blaster have compared to the 400ex

JRDrider22
11-17-2004, 06:08 PM
lets just put it this way. stock to stock a blaster will win. the blaster may win if its extrememly decked out against a stock 400.

the 400 will win otherwise

mojoe2878
11-17-2004, 06:09 PM
i dont know what the horse power is right off hand, but if you get beat by a blaster in a drag then either you or your 400 has some problems.

Dust_1503
11-17-2004, 06:10 PM
stock for stock no unless the rider on the EX weighs 500lbs and magically can operate one in that condition, and the kid on the blaster weighs 75. Then maybe.. and maybe only lol. I'll let other people give you all the tech. specifics.

400ex men
11-17-2004, 06:17 PM
i was racin one of my boys win my 400ex was stock and it out ren him e-z and his was a blaster with a pipe:)

Destructo
11-17-2004, 06:45 PM
How about stock 400ex vs. 250R?

Cole Trane
11-17-2004, 06:49 PM
250r will beat a 400. It all depends on the rider. I have never seen a blaster get even remotely close to beating a 400ex. But like I said, it depends on the rider. I am speaking only for drag racing.

dunedragger
11-17-2004, 07:11 PM
According to a test that Kawasaki did when the 700 kfx's came out, if you want an even race and you are racing a 2 stroke vs a 4 stroke you need to take the cc's of the 2 stroke and divide it by .75. For an example if you are racing a stock 2 stroke 250 cc quad you should be racing a 333 four stroke. Keep in mind when you are racing every 8-10 lbs equals one h.p. Anything that turns on your bike like a disk, or a rim, or an axle it weighs twice as much when it starts spinning. Thats why people change those types of products because shaving off weight is the cheapest h.p.
:confused:

Toadz400
11-17-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by JRDrider22
lets just put it this way. stock to stock a blaster will win. the blaster may win if its extrememly decked out against a stock 400.

the 400 will win otherwise

Stock for stock a blaster will NOT win. stock 400ex and a decked out blaster, blaster still does not win. Piped 400ex vs piped, ported, shaved head, aftermarket carb, and reeded Blaster...400ex still wins:D .

440ex2001
11-17-2004, 08:56 PM
i doubt a blaster could ever beat a 400. i beat a kid at the dragstrip by 2 seconds

khen
11-17-2004, 09:32 PM
My brother with his ported/polished/milled and piped blaster beat me on my piped 400EX up sand mountain Utah. He had just put in a fresh piston and it was running good. Between me and my EX I was about 90-100 pounds heavier than he was though.

300ex-boy
11-17-2004, 09:51 PM
never in a million years lol

LazeR
11-17-2004, 10:46 PM
On my stock 400ex, i raced a modded blaster, pipe/filter/port/polish/bored/reeds and yea it wasn't even a challenge :P Blasters are fast for a 200, but dont compare to a 400ex.

hondarider2006
11-18-2004, 12:02 AM
no:o

Skannes
11-18-2004, 12:07 AM
me and my best friend kamden race down north beach in sitka alaska and i always kick his ***** he has a 2003 Blaster stock. But i keep telling him to get a toomy, then he will win but. with a stock blaster will not beat a 400ex.

YZ400EX
11-18-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Skannes
me and my best friend kamden race down north beach in sitka alaska and i always kick his ***** he has a 2003 Blaster stock. But i keep telling him to get a toomy, then he will win but. with a stock blaster will not beat a 400ex.

Not even with a Toomy could he beat a 400..Theres just no way. My friend had a Blaster that had a Vitos 240 BB kit, full FMF exhaust, and K&N and still couldnt beat me in a drag..It was pretty close though..After the BB kit it was a lot faster, but still isnt fast enough which he learned..Thats why it is long gone..

Toadz400
11-18-2004, 11:10 AM
Blaster and 400ex shouldn't even be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence:o .

400exstud
11-18-2004, 10:02 PM
My brother with his ported/polished/milled and piped blaster beat me on my piped 400EX up sand mountain Utah. He had just put in a fresh piston and it was running good. Between me and my EX I was about 90-100 pounds heavier than he was though.

And might i ask if he put a new piston in after that race, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one?:rolleyes:

khen
11-18-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by 400exstud
And might i ask if he put a new piston in after that race, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one, and after the next one?:rolleyes: What's your point? He had the blaster for about 1 1/2 years and he put 2 pistons in it. I never said it was as reliable as my EX, that wasn't the question. :mad: :rolleyes:

400sEXridr
11-19-2004, 07:32 AM
stock for stock a 400ex will smoke a blaster if the guy on the 400 knows how to shift properly

flipstick04
11-19-2004, 10:00 AM
Blasters DO have the potential to beat 400s when modded properly... it just takes lots of cash.. go over to atvsource forums and ask Rod_blaster if his will beat a 400.

440ex2001
11-19-2004, 10:42 AM
Not my 400

Toadz400
11-19-2004, 10:53 AM
Who cares if a $20,000 Blaster will beat a stock 400ex, you still have to put a load of money into the Blaster just to get it close to competeting with the 400ex. It's just not meant to be that fast.

PBlackmon
11-19-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Toadz400
Blaster and 400ex shouldn't even be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence:o .
They don't even compare:huh

Blasta400ex
11-19-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by PBlackmon
They don't even compare:huh

hey ******* u ride a warrior a blaster will smoke a warrior....u shouldnt be dissin a qaud wen urs isnt all thaT hot...

a modded blaster will beat a modded warrior

a blaster with port and polish/ bigger carb pipe air filter will beat a 400ex stock

440ex2001
11-19-2004, 02:23 PM
He isnt blasting any one man calm down :) he stated his opinion. If I say a vette is faster than a pinto that doesnt mean I'm bashing pintos you silly goose.

Toadz400
11-19-2004, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Blasta400ex
hey ******* u ride a warrior a blaster will smoke a warrior....u shouldnt be dissin a qaud wen urs isnt all thaT hot...

a modded blaster will beat a modded warrior

a blaster with port and polish/ bigger carb pipe air filter will beat a 400ex stock

Woa dude, take your ADHD pills before your mom has to lock up the sugar cabinet again!

You are wrong about a Blaster with port and polish with a bigger carb and pipe beating a stock 400ex. They just don't compare.

400exstud
11-19-2004, 09:18 PM
my friends bored out blaster with holeshots could only beat me through the first gear because i let him count the start and my tires were balled.

ny400
11-20-2004, 06:42 AM
that aint true im stock and i am 5 quad lengths ahead of a blaster wid procicuit pipes k&n .80 weisco pistonc....its the rider

Kennethyfz450
11-20-2004, 08:47 AM
OH MAN I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THIS STORY i was going to tell...


I went to LANd Between the lakes a few months ago and tthey have a little drag strip and this guy was getting beat 1-3rd by a blaster!!!!!!!

he would eventually catch up and all of his buddies was laughing at the guy who owned the 400ex he was getting so mad!!

the blaster was stock and the 400 just had nerfs...

anyhow another guy jumped on the 400 ...
raced the blaster
both took off the same
it was really close
then the 400ex pulled on it


What i am trying to say is if their is not a good rider on a 400ex a blaster could sqeeze a win if the distance is very long... man i would have been ashamed if i lost by a blaster when i owned a 400ex

sparks400
11-20-2004, 11:34 PM
dude my old blaster had port and polish, wiseco piston bored .020, open airbox, full pipe, jet,and i think some other sutff, more suspenion, and i beat 400's, thats thiight was nice, i put every cent into that thing, but now i got 400 and like it a lil better, i just miss the ole 2 stroke sound and powerband

Toadz400
11-20-2004, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by sparks400
dude my old blaster had port and polish, wiseco piston bored .020, open airbox, full pipe, jet,and i think some other sutff, more suspenion, and i beat 400's, thats thiight was nice, i put every cent into that thing, but now i got 400 and like it a lil better, i just miss the ole 2 stroke sound and powerband

Obviously the people on the 400's couldn't ride because my friend has the same and more mods than that and his Blaster is not as fast as my slip-on piped 400ex!

sparks400
11-20-2004, 11:40 PM
looks like ur friend cant ride

markk
11-21-2004, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by JRDrider22
lets just put it this way. stock to stock a blaster will win. .

the 400 will win otherwise


HAVE U BEEN DRINKIN!!!!!!!!!!:blah:

Toadz400
11-21-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by sparks400
looks like ur friend cant ride

No, because switching around it's still the same. Blasters just can't hold their own that well...just accept the fact:o .

frosti108
11-21-2004, 04:28 PM
ya dude i dont know why people are comparing the blaster to a 400ex. the blaster is more around the 300ex area. infact, theyre about equals stock for stock. back when i had only a slipon and an airfilter, i smoked a blaster with reeds air filter, full pipe and so on...

BOTTOM LINE-

comparing a blaster to a 400ex is basically the same as comparing a 300ex to a 400ex. it just DOESNT compare ;)

chowmylap
11-22-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by flipstick04
Blasters DO have the potential to beat 400s when modded properly... it just takes lots of cash.. go over to atvsource forums and ask Rod_blaster if his will beat a 400.

i had a toomey equipped blaster and traded it in for an ex. it was like night and day between the two. the 400 has more power everywhere, with the exception of off the line compared to the blaster.
still miss the blasty though, it was a lot of fun to ride.
i got a lot of useful tips from rod_blaster, the things he has done with that quad were awesome. he's what i consider one of the foremost authorities on blasters, he's either done it or tried it. hollywooddirt is also a great source of info on atvsource.
just my two cents

Juggalo
11-22-2004, 12:23 PM
my friends 310cc ported polished everything done to it blaster was abotu dead even with my quad. at the time i was only running pipe filter and stage 2 hotcam. this blaster won 3 times in the mod blaster class at our local drags. last time it was there it beat an LRD blaster that had their top of the line kit. this was a fast blaster for sure...but it couldnt beat even a mild 400ex.

2001-400ex'er
11-22-2004, 06:07 PM
My friend has a Blaster with a Toomey pipe. For a blaster it is pretty quick and fun to ride but when we drag I can still kill him. Blasters are just take alot of money to even be comparable to a 400ex.

racer94
11-23-2004, 10:40 AM
any four wheeler will beat any four wheeler depending on what is done to it and who is riding,and what terrain you are riding on....i have seen blasters beat 400's,i have seen 400's blow away blasters,i have seen my own 300 ex walk away from every four wheeler made as well as i have seen alot of four wheelers beat mine...in all out drags the banshees are supposed to be baddest but i have seen them get spanked by virtually the smallest quads made.i have also seen them so freakin fast it was crazy..with the right mods and setup,rider combo any four wheeler is capable of winning...just depends on what who and where really...have a good one!!

Toadz400
11-23-2004, 10:42 AM
You have a point but we were discussing stock Blaster vs stocker 400ex, there is no place that a stock Blaster will beat a stock 400ex. A 400ex is superior to the Blaster in every possible way besides weight.

racer94
11-23-2004, 11:00 AM
well the blaster revs alot quicker,turns more rpm,and is lighter...in a short drag stock to stock yes it has a chance...longer drag less likely to win,400 has alot more power,top end then the blaster would ever think about having...i am not a big fan of blasters but they can hold their own for their size....the only thing that saves them is being a 2 stroke......

400exstud
11-23-2004, 04:31 PM
unrelated to motors but they [blasters] are much too narrow for their own good!

hart
11-23-2004, 04:59 PM
im with the 400, every body just ask ur self this question how reliable could a blaster be if it is totally done up , with the 400 u get great reliable power , and if u wana add more u can basically do it with out worry , and if i remember correcty it was in a old atv action shoot out against the 300ex and the 300 won in every catagory except speed witch the blaster one barley , its basically a begginer quad its like saying a stock 400ex will beat a stock 450r go figure.

Myrtle150
11-23-2004, 05:44 PM
it doesnt matter what you put on a blaster...they werent designed to be race machines and never will be-they suck....i used to have one and let me tell you..it was the biggest hunk of trash i ever bought. every time i rode it, something broke. and no-it wasnt some old pos. It was new off the floor. blasters and 400's dont compare

hart
11-23-2004, 05:49 PM
Point and Case exactly :D

racer94
11-23-2004, 05:49 PM
that is why this thread can go on forever because opinions are like a** holes everybody has got one..in my opinion the 400 isnt all it is cracked up to be,and either is the blaster either one,the ultimate quad is an 250r chassis with yz426f engine,but that is my opinion,doesnt mean it is right...

hart
11-23-2004, 05:56 PM
True yes , but that would be one awsome ride man ;)

Toadz400
11-23-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by racer94
that is why this thread can go on forever because opinions are like a** holes everybody has got one..in my opinion the 400 isnt all it is cracked up to be,and either is the blaster either one,the ultimate quad is an 250r chassis with yz426f engine,but that is my opinion,doesnt mean it is right...

No one is saying that the 400ex is "godly" or anything like that. This thread is about whether or not a Blaster would beat a 400ex in a drag, stock for stock. No matter what, if there are equally good riders on the quads and both know how to ride the quad, the 400ex will always win, always.

racer94
11-23-2004, 09:23 PM
i guess that makes two a**holes,me and you....back to opinions,your opinion means sh** to me,and i have seen stock blasters run with stock 400's,very often no but does happen occasionally.....

Toadz400
11-23-2004, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by racer94
i guess that makes two a**holes,me and you....back to opinions,your opinion means sh** to me,and i have seen stock blasters run with stock 400's,very often no but does happen occasionally.....

The riders on the Blasters are probably better than the ones on the EX. I have seen a stock Blaster against a 400ex, blown away, piped Blaster against a 400ex, blown away, etc...just keep going up the list and it's constantly getting blown away, and the rider is extremely good on the Blaster.

And my bad about calling you an a**hole, haha, I misread it and thought that you were saying some people were sounding like a**holes because of their opinions...once again, my bad:o .

racer94
11-23-2004, 09:36 PM
i was just saying opinions are like a**holes,and they are really..i am not saying a blaster will always outrun a 400,cause 90% of the time the blaster will get spanked,but it does happen...my wife has a blaster and i hate them,just giving credit to the little screamers,they are impressive sometimes,but i will give it too you they suck most of the time...lol

Toadz400
11-24-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by racer94
i was just saying opinions are like a**holes,and they are really..i am not saying a blaster will always outrun a 400,cause 90% of the time the blaster will get spanked,but it does happen...my wife has a blaster and i hate them,just giving credit to the little screamers,they are impressive sometimes,but i will give it too you they suck most of the time...lol

Yea I know what you were saying now, I just misread it which was really my bad. Sorry about that. Blasters can be made to scream...but that is after so much money is put into them, whereas you don't need to put a ton of money into a 400ex to make it that fast.

racer94
11-24-2004, 09:58 PM
i do agree,and the wheelbase of the blaster sucks

Toadz400
11-24-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by racer94
i do agree,and the wheelbase of the blaster sucks

YES it does, you feel like you are riding a mini-quad on those things. Extremely cramped and way too skinny and short. My friend just got a +4 G-Force axle for it and it's 50" so we think he accidentally got a Banshee axle, because it shouldn't be 50" with a +4 axle...it should only be like 46 at the most.

400 EX FREAK
11-24-2004, 11:38 PM
400ex weighs at 375lbs, blaster weighs like 150 i think, i raced my buddys blaster and on the holeshot we tied, then i smoked him, now he has a 240 bore kit in it so it kills mine .

khen
11-25-2004, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by 400 EX FREAK
400ex weighs at 375lbs, blaster weighs like 150 i think, i raced my buddys blaster and on the holeshot we tied, then i smoked him, now he has a 240 bore kit in it so it kills mine . Actually the Blaster weighs 320lbs.