Pappy's 450R MX rebuild

[Pappy]

Well, after a whole lot of things kept me from getting this done a month ago, the quad is now ridable. i am still awaiting another set of nerf bars and factory black fenders but here she sits in here current state.

Laker Custom fenders, Elka Suspension with linkage, Burgard +2 chrome arms and +1 stem, Burgard beadlocks and grooved radials with turfs. Burgard custom Exriders.com billet clutch cover, Rekluse Z-start clutch, LSR axle, Curtis Sparks full exhaust, W.E.R. dampner,LSR anti-fade, TAG bars, RTC levers,Duncan bumper, AC grab bar and nerfs and more.

The frame was powdercoated Gun Metal Grey along with the hubs, rocker cover and misc. parts. Just about everything that can rust or corrode was molycoated for extra protection. Distinctive Chrome (Popo) took care of the chrome subframe and small brackets and spindles.

I am dedicating this to my dad who passed away wednesday night after a battle he couldnt win. I know you didnt get to see it finished pop, but I think you would be proud of what we have accomplished.

I want to thank my brother for his hard work on this quad also, along with several close friends. C & D Racing, Dusty and Colby along with Jeff from the Quadshop and I couldnt forget Izzy at Burgard Cycle. You guys are the best and got me everything I needed and I thank you.

[chad502ex]

Pappy- very very sweet look'n quad. I'm sure your very proud of that thumper.

Now, comes the motor work!

Sweeet!

chad502ex.com

[Jersey450R]

that quad right there I have to say is the baddest, most awesome quad i've ever seen, excellent job pappy.

[Hammer trx450r]

I cant stop looking at it

[Pappy]

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[Jersey450R]

Oh my ***ing god!!! I think I just turned into a hater! lol.

totally disgusting...sick!

[jaywoodsrider]

That is one bad machine pappy, good work and sorry about your pops.

[Jersey450R]

Pappy, what kind of coating/paint did you put on your head pipe?

[Pappy]

the headpipe is ceramic coated straight from Sparks. I thought it was ruined the other night, i was running the quad , checking over things and my dog "Moose" wouldnt leave me alone. he leaned against the header and ran out of the shop on fire:eek: I chased him down and put him out but it left a nasty black mark on the pipe (stunk real bad too:p )

Fortunatley the coating did its job and after a few more warm up cycles the mark disappeared:D

[Jersey450R]

omg, i'm sorry about your dog but i just laughed real real hard when i read that...THe dog ran out on fire, lol!

[Pappy]

oh it was funny at first here also, until he realized he was smoking and took off into my woods...full of dry leaves:p luckily he only recieved a slight burn and is recovering nicely:D

[theTman]

:eek2:

[Jersey450R]

hahaha, yea i'm still laughing! oh and yea, your quad is now my permanant wallpaper, thanks pappy!
another thing, i might be interseted in shipping my frame to you for powdercoat, maybe around mid december.

[One_Bad_400]

WOW!!!! :eek2: that is one slick ride, that is exacly how i pictured mine to turn out if i get black plastic!! good-job !!

did you have to call burgard to get those a-arms, because i was thinking about them for mine but they didnt have them on there site

[Pappy]

You can order Burgard products thru our site sponsor C & D Racing, Burgard direct or if its a rush or special color thru me. I try not to be in sales, but if someone needs special attention im glad to pitch in to get you going.

[450 Racer R]

How's the grooved radials up front?

[Pappy]

radials are good on hardpack and loose loam. they were the preferred weapon all thru the 80's and early 90's and even today.

i really wanted to try and bring some old school styling to the new 450R so i decided to use them

[exrider360]

OMG its beautiful i want one i dont wnat a dirtbike anymore

[dirtmomma]

So I'm curious is the the TT racer also or is that ANOTHER project????? This thing is BEAUTIFUULLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[ZRider400]

wow thats one of the nicest 450r's ive ever seen.

its now my desktop background:devil:

[TWISTED]

Originally posted by dirtmomma
So I'm curious is the the TT racer also or is that ANOTHER project????? This thing is BEAUTIFUULLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! :D What he said. Is that the 450 that you were building for TT? I'm still hoping for the unveiling at Vixxens!!!

[roostin_dale]

Originally posted by TWISTED
What he said. Is that the 450 that you were building for TT? I'm still hoping for the unveiling at Vixxens!!!

dirtmomma is a she not a he!!!

anwyays, pappy, that thing looks amazing!!! great job

[TWISTED]

OOOPS!! Sorry.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by TWISTED
What he said. Is that the 450 that you were building for TT? I'm still hoping for the unveiling at Vixxens!!!

yes this will serve dual purpose. if i get a chance to run TT i will run the knobby class and it can be easily fitted with a sway bar.


right now the quad is at Twiggs Cycle on display for the rest of this week.

[kazpr]

Congrats pappy and sorry about your loss :( Best of luck to you and your family!

[Dupontster]

First off, sorry to hear about your Dad....I am sure he would have been proud....Best of everything to you and your family.....Next is that 450R....That thing is beautiful.....Really looks sharp......You all should be proud.....

[dirtriderex]

Nice quad, you ruined the moment when you mentioned your father passing away. I am sorry about the loss and God be with him.

[QuadJunkies]

Originally posted by Pappy
Well, after a whole lot of things kept me from getting this done a month ago, the quad is now ridable. i am still awaiting another set of nerf bars and factory black fenders but here she sits in here current state.

Laker Custom fenders, Elka Suspension with linkage, Burgard +2 chrome arms and +1 stem, Burgard beadlocks and grooved radials with turfs. Burgard custom Exriders.com billet clutch cover, Rekluse Z-start clutch, LSR axle, Curtis Sparks full exhaust, W.E.R. dampner,LSR anti-fade, TAG bars, RTC levers,Duncan bumper, AC grab bar and nerfs and more.

The frame was powdercoated Gun Metal Grey along with the hubs, rocker cover and misc. parts. Just about everything that can rust or corrode was molycoated for extra protection. Distinctive Chrome (Popo) took care of the chrome subframe and small brackets and spindles.

I am dedicating this to my dad who passed away wednesday night after a battle he couldnt win. I know you didnt get to see it finished pop, but I think you would be proud of what we have accomplished.

I want to thank my brother for his hard work on this quad also, along with several close friends. C & D Racing, Dusty and Colby along with Jeff from the Quadshop and I couldnt forget Izzy at Burgard Cycle. You guys are the best and got me everything I needed and I thank you. I would LOOOVEEE to race that thang!!!:blah:

[QuadJunkies]

Originally posted by Pappy
radials are good on hardpack and loose loam. they were the preferred weapon all thru the 80's and early 90's and even today.

i really wanted to try and bring some old school styling to the new 450R so i decided to use them that application works VERY well on our HardPack Track also. :)

[Gabriel Racing]

nice bike!


im curious, why didnt you go Long Travel up front?

[Pappy]

ive owned both styles and truthfully if they are both set up correctly the difference is so small as to not be noticable.

[infantry317]

Sweet R Pappy, sorry about your Father.

[littleugly03]

Nice quad pappy you do alot of great work. keep it up:devil:

[Dave400ex]

Very nice Pappy. That thing is amazing. I think it's the nicest one yet. Also I saw you at the Ironman sitting on the bleachers there at the finish line, I was going to say Hi, but you were sitting with those other guys talking. I had the white EXriders shirt on.

[Pappy]

that was me and rick hetrick....you should have said hey:D

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
that was me and rick hetrick....you should have said hey:D

he wasnt so sure if you were going to buzz him off or not:eek2:

[Dave400ex]

lol. I didn't want to interupt the conversation. Watching Harlen running up and down Pro row taking pictures was amazing though.

[wvspeedfreak]

Very nice 450 Pappy.You going to let me cut a donut in your yard with it when I come up there?:D

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

Wow that did turn out nice :eek2: wish that was sitting in my showroom ;)

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Silverfox@C&DRacing
Wow that did turn out nice :eek2: wish that was sitting in my showroom ;)

a little birdie told me that i am supposed to be recieving a frame some chick named dusty:confused: could it be:devil:



as far as interupting....dude if you think enough of me to wanna say hi then by all means you just come right up and do it. noone in this world is worth not meeting atleast once:blah:

[Shuee_400]

Thats is a really good looking bike. And for a good cause sorry for the lose.......

[kazpr]

Originally posted by Pappy
as far as interupting....dude if you think enough of me to wanna say hi then by all means you just come right up and do it. noone in this world is worth not meeting atleast once:blah:

WOW nice one! Pappy sounds pretty dang cool :)

[One_Bad_400]

did you take one of the springs out or is the first sping compresed and i cant see it?

[Pappy]

the top ssd spring is usually compressed somewhat

[Shawn H]

Pappy thats Bad ***:cool:

Sorry to hear about your POP:(
our Prayers are with ya

Is that Gun metal Gray actually like a black? Do ya have a close up of it?

L8R
Shawn

[Pappy]

i dont know if a picture can capture what it really looks like but ill try.


its really cool, in the sun it looks anywhere from black to a deep dark rich metalic silver. my brother says it looks to plain and i should have done it a trans color. (his crap will now be pc'd pink:devil: )

[Pappy]

side view

[ZRider400]

pappy, do you plan on getting nerfs?

[Pappy]

yes. i had a set here and a local fella walked in and wanted them for a race so he bought them. i have more due in so ill get them on as soon as they arrive and get polished.

[One_Bad_400]

what all do you have done to the engine?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by One_Bad_400
what all do you have done to the engine?

its stock.

i had planned on sending it to C&D Racing. Colby wanted to give it some bite but i just ran out of time. i really needed to get it wrapped up before i get slammed with building other peoples quads this winter.

this one rolled out saturday and theres a new naked quad in the garage now:scary:

[Pappy]

1/4 angle

[chris450R]

dang it, Pappy! you have the baddest 450R i have ever seen. AHHH! i want it right now. i will trade with you! oh and sorry to hear about your father, that really sucks. so what do you charge for PCing the frame? just tryin to get some ideas for later on.

laidher, chris

[Pappy]

1/4away

[Pappy]

rear 1/3

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
i dont know if a picture can capture what it really looks like but ill try.


its really cool, in the sun it looks anywhere from black to a deep dark rich metalic silver. my brother says it looks to plain and i should have done it a trans color. (his crap will now be pc'd pink:devil: )

pappy,that color is the chit!I love it i gotta get more stuff done in it:macho

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 300exrida
pappy,that color is the chit!I love it i gotta get more stuff done in it:macho

well all i have here is your frame and swing arm...lol and i think the swing arm should be black to match the houser arms so that leaves the frame...and im pretty sure you want that trans red. so buy another quad and we will talk:devil:

[JDiablo]

yup i still want the frame trans red,do the arms and swinger that color to,and the frame that same red as the sub:devil:

[spincr4hire]

SWEET :eek2:
great job, Pappy

[roughrider01]

Very nice Pappy! Its got the Darth Vader look. :cool:

[TCracin440ex]

grove them tamers so it can have the old school mx quad look....the kinda look that went outta style with gary denton

[quadrcr161]

went out of style? i still see grooved turfs around, im actually runing a set because they work. since when did building a quad have to have style?

nice looking R pappy, should go with TT racing, you wont get it as dirty.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
grove them tamers so it can have the old school mx quad look....the kinda look that went outta style with gary denton

you dont groove tamers for style, you groove them for track conditions.


and to bash denton is pretty low...especially since he can still outride most of the pro's today:o

[TCracin440ex]

not bashing denton...hes a bad arse riders...but what im sayin is...with itp holeshots, kenda klaws, and razrs people really dont run tamers as much...i see more klaws, holeshots, and razrs than tamers...

i like tamers cuz they are cheap....i have a set of mxr's and ill never buy a set of them again rubber compound is too soft

[quadrcr161]

exactly pappy, a set of grooved turfs, and radials will not only hook but give you more of a controlled traction such as sliding through corners on a real hard track. now the MXR's are great on a looser surface and usually dont slide as well, and if you are sliding them your just baking off rubber.

[Hawk III]

I agree with pappy on this one. grooved tamers flat out own. on certain tracks there is nothing else better, in fact if i had to pick one tire for mx (thank god i don't have to) it would be grooved tamers. the only reason they don't seem quite as popular today is itp owns them now, and they want to push their "itp" stuff. Don't get me wrong i run the mxr's also for certain tracks, but the grooved tamers are hard to beat

[Hammer trx450r]

Out of style with Gary Denton? What kind a chit is that? What was he a 6 or 7 time national champion. How many championships have you got? What a punk ars comment:huh

[quadrcr161]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Out of style with Gary Denton? What kind a chit is that? What was he a 6 or 7 time national champion. How many championships have you got? What a punk ars comment:huh

8 time champ, of TT and MX when you had to run both. was a very good image for the sport and keeps active in it.

[Dupontster]

Pappy, are you bringing that thing to Budds this weekend....?
Make sure you has plenty of wax on it because there will be people drooling all over it.....

[Jersey450R]

where can i get grooved turf tamers at? i want to make an order.

[Hammer trx450r]

This is my opinion on it. Tammers are great tires but with the new 4 strokes torque and the tech that goes into tires now adays, Im gonna try something else. I mean they are from golf cart equiptment arent they?

[dirtmomma]

Originally posted by Jersey450R
where can i get grooved turf tamers at? i want to make an order.

C&D carries them I think :)

[D-7#61-450r]

Hey Pappy nice quad! I really was getting ready to tear my 450R down gusset the frame and give you a call to do it in that color. I guess you beat me to the punch with your vary own quad. I am still going to do a rebuild and give you a call just gotta do some color research. Bring that thing to Budds. on the 14th would love to see it and talk to you about mine.
Hey when you pick up your quad from twigg tell Dan Laferty the Fredericksburg Va. boys said hi. We bought 4 quads from him a year ago. The 1st and 2nd 450R and 2 YFZ's great people to deal with
Terry

[Pappy]

well i can tell you this....after building mine.....an all black and chrome R would be the chit. ive pondered grabbing another frame and making the switch:p not that i dont like this color one bit, but you cant beat the black on black combo.


id love to come to budds, but im sure ill be slammed with family again this weekend doing their best to console me since my dad passed away. (im like...go home please:p ) if i can find a way ill do my best to swing down.

[PBlackmon]

It sux that I just now found these pics!! Holy ****!!! That has to be the baddest quad ever made! Awesome job pappy, I hope to see more like that from you in the future:eek2:

[xsr_racing28c]

Tight quad Pappy!!!! Mine is on it's way, but it still won't even look close to as nice as yurs... man... you sure have a way with quality looking chit!!! i will be sendin some parts yur way this winter, to be pc'ed the same color as the burgard beads you did sold to me with the trans red or candy apple rings ( forgot what color..LOL ) Best of Wishes on yur lose man!!!! keep yur head up

[Rico]

:eek2:

I"m comin up to race it next weekend pappy....:devil:

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

Originally posted by Rico
:eek2:

I"m comin up to race it next weekend pappy....:devil:

wait in line buddy :devil: :macho

[Rico]

Originally posted by Silverfox@C&DRacing
wait in line buddy :devil: :macho

I'll stand in line behind you anyday......:devil:

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Rico
I'll stand in line behind you anyday......:devil:

dont you have a wife...shame on you,lol

[Wayne64SS]

PAPPY bike looks gorgeous bro I really like it. Sorry to hear about your pops im sure hes in a much better place.

On a more cheery note i was wondering wassup with the EXRIDERS clutch covers you posted bout awhile back. I want a chrome one for my 450r and i thin kyou said it coudl say EXRIDERS 450R. Thats what i want..... pm me if you want homie.

[Pappy]

to order the clutch cover call Burgard Cycles. 1-888-771-8600

they are the only manufacture authorized to build the covers. tell'm pappy sent ya and to get you squared away:macho

[450 Racer R]

that's the place for the grooved fronts too?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 450 Racer R
that's the place for the grooved fronts too?

yes you can get them from Burgard or C & D Racing, they sell Burgard radials.

[exrider44]

Pappy that is one sick ride you have! Great job.. :D

[stocktires]

I'm lovin it paps! Makes me want to rip my R apart again

[yfzrider93]

Very nice quad man. One of the nicest 450r's i've ever seen. I am very sorry to hear about your pops, I lost my mother 10 years ago and I know how it feels to loose a parent. My prayers are with you.

[culookn]

hey pappy, what bend ar your tags, and do you have a lonestar stem? if not is it the regular length or the +1? i cant stop stairing at your ride. you caught me lookn hahaha

[Pappy]

I run Burgard products and its a +1 stem. the bars ar CR double high

thanks for the compliments folks.,...i like it also

[ridered300]

Hey Pappy this is Matt over at Bare Performance...

Smoking R man, that things killer!

Just wondering if you want an all black gripper seat cover to complete that stealth look, if so give me a shout and we'll hook you up!

Have a good one!

Matt
(765) 744 0320

[Pappy]

thanks matt:p

i have a quadtech cover here that i couldnt install until after it spent its week at the dealer.

my bro is picking his R up shortly and ill either get one from you for it or give him the QT. i appreciate the offer tho!

[WhiteBros400ex]

SICK:eek: :macho :blah:

[JHF219]

Need any yard work done ? im sure with that quad i could do some serious damage !! :devil:

[EXtremeEXer50]

hey pappy where the action pics or are u just gunna let it sit around and look pretty...haha

[CBW]

looks good there pappy,,,cept keeping the plastics good is gonna be a ****** huh??

[Pappy]

ride it, scratch it...replace it:devil:

[CBW]

Originally posted by Pappy
ride it, scratch it...replace it:devil:


damn straight!!............good attitude:macho

[Pappy]

truthfully once the black gets nasty i will switch to silver or white maybe even blue. black was soley for the look.

[CBW]

Originally posted by Pappy
truthfully once the black gets nasty i will switch to silver or white maybe even blue. black was soley for the look.


yep well it looks darn good......

[Pappy]

well cody isnt the best photographer :p

[Pappy]

and im not the best rider so we manage:D

[Pappy]

The sparks exhaust has less bottom and mid then the hmf did but pulls smooth.

[Pappy]

i geuss i need to go get some grass seed now:p

[theTman]

Originally posted by Pappy
i geuss i need to go get some grass seed now:p


new backround:D

[Pappy]

dig the custom carhart chest protector:o

im built more for lifting the quad then riding it...but i dont care. as long as i have a smile on my face im happy:D

[wvspeedfreak]

I was just up at Pappy's house this morning and let me tell you that quad looks better in person than it does in the pictures.I came home and now somehow my 450r looks pretty boring lol.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by wvspeedfreak
now somehow my 450r looks pretty boring lol.

ummm....we can fix that:chinese:

hey it was cool seeing you and meeting the rest of the family.

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
The sparks exhaust has less bottom and mid then the hmf did but pulls smooth.

looks like it has to much power for you ken:devil:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 300exrida
looks like it has to much power for you ken:devil:

is there such a thing as too much power:confused: :devil:

[JDiablo]

from the pix that cody took i would say yes:devil: lol j/k so what is the total value of this quad now:confused:

[Pappy]

value...ummmm

i guess you could add up all the parts and custom work and get a value....or offer it for sale and see what someone is willing to pay.

any offers:confused:

[JDiablo]

my 400 for it,with all the new bling bling,and 500 on top of it>?:devil:

[Pappy]

id say your a bit low......

i geuss if you wanted one built like this it would be around $13,500 and that would include a brand new 450R. and yes, i have the technology to make that happen:scary:

[JDiablo]

o it was worth a try....but i know you are going to re-consider after you see it put toghter...so ill be waiting:devil: :blah:

[wvspeedfreak]

Originally posted by Pappy
ummm....we can fix that:chinese:

hey it was cool seeing you and meeting the rest of the family.
Yeah,seeing that quad definately got me wanting to do some custom work to mine.Knowing me the teardown could start any time now:D .I also enjoyed talking with you guys again.I'll be seeing you again soon.......................probably with a truck bed full of parts to get coated:D .

[hondaracer305]

sorry to hear about your loss man :( . you gotta very nice looking R.

[ZRider400]

is the sparks exhaust louder than the hmf you had?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by ZRider400
is the sparks exhaust louder than the hmf you had?

"WHAT DID YOU SAY"

that is the badest quad ive ever seen. sorry about your father,hope everything goes well.

:)

[MY450R]

omg!! i have a raging hard on for that thing
very nice pappy very nice!!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by MY450R
omg!! i have a raging hard on for that thing
very nice pappy very nice!!


down boy down:devil:

[450r#221]

Nice job!:macho Sorry about your dad:(

[Pappy]

the sparks full system on this quad is now for sale.

[JDiablo]

i guess it is to loud for your liking then paps?

[Pappy]

all the pipes except stock are too loud for me...lol

and i agree that something needs to be done about the noise. friday evening i went hunting about 1 mile and a half from our local mx track and for 5 hours straight all i could here was the track. i couldnt even hear leaves rustling...its gotton bad and if we dont stand up and control ourselves then we will be screwed in the long run

[littleugly03]

nice quad pappy i love that thing

[chad502ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
the sparks full system on this quad is now for sale.

what? what will replace it?

[oldsandman]

Originally posted by Pappy
all the pipes except stock are too loud for me...lol

and i agree that something needs to be done about the noise. friday evening i went hunting about 1 mile and a half from our local mx track and for 5 hours straight all i could here was the track. i couldnt even hear leaves rustling...its gotton bad and if we dont stand up and control ourselves then we will be screwed in the long run

Damn straight! I love a strong sounding motor but we are just going to lose more riding areas and the public opinion battle unless we get some self control.

Great job on the quad! I wish I had someone out my way that did the quality pc'ing you do.

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by chad502ex
what? what will replace it?


stock:eek2:

[depotman19]

what specific model of sparks exhaust system is it?

and what are you asking for it?

[mikes450r]

hey quick question pappy..i read your post about your dog burning it self on the head pipe....well i have the same pipe and i went for a quick ride with my warm ups on and they melted on to it...you got any ideas on getting it off without messing up the exaust pipe...thanks for your help

[chad502ex]

Originally posted by 300exrida
stock:eek2:

:o

[Pappy]

Originally posted by mikes450r
hey quick question pappy..i read your post about your dog burning it self on the head pipe....well i have the same pipe and i went for a quick ride with my warm ups on and they melted on to it...you got any ideas on getting it off without messing up the exaust pipe...thanks for your help

keep riding it and it will mostly turn to dust. once it burns itself off, hit it with some 000 steel wool

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by chad502ex
:o

:confused:

[mikes450r]

alright sounds easy enough..thanks

[jwick07]

just joined not too long ago and tonight found this picture

it looks perfect great job

some day soon i hope mine will be half that cool

by the way how is your fireball of a dog doing

also did you sell that pipe??

[Out_Sider]

i couldnt help but bring the thread back from the grave... that quad is just to sick :D

[Pappy]

its about to get much sicker thanks to LSR racing and Axis shocks:cool:

[Out_Sider]

be sure to hit me up with pics when that happens.. i LOVE axis :macho

[Pappy]

looking at the action pictures reminded me:( i broke a few bones in my right foot starting the quad before we started taking pictures. all these months later im still hobling around and sucking on pain killers:grr:

lesson learned.....boots are mandatory:scary:

[450r51]

sry to say this but i really dont like the quad, way too boring for me. straight black is not my style.

[Shawn H]

Lets see your Quad 450r51?:rolleyes:


It's still took alot of hard work and it still nice regardless of all the black.

[450r51]

oh i know it took along time im just not personally a fan of all the black. regardless of what an r looks like i still like it, if i can figure out how to work my camera ill try to post some pics. plus the only color that should be on a honda is RED.

[roostin_dale]

Originally posted by 450r51
plus the only color that should be on a honda is RED.

and why is that? you can get a stock one in Black Red or yellow...

:devil:

[shamisc]

Originally posted by roostin_dale
and why is that? you can get a stock one in Black Red or yellow...

:devil:

YELLOW????:confused:

[roostin_dale]

Originally posted by shamisc
YELLOW????:confused:

ohh, you got me there,lol. I guess the 450s arent yellow yet are they?

[450r51]

no chit 450rs rnt yellow. and all i said was that im not a fan of the black. since hondas signature is red and their slogan is RIDE RED, yes then all hondas should be red

[bwamos]

Originally posted by 450r51
no chit 450rs rnt yellow. and all i said was that im not a fan of the black. since hondas signature is red and their slogan is RIDE RED, yes then all hondas should be red

By that logic, all:
Honda's should be Red
Yamaha's should be Blue
Suzuki's should be Yellow
Kawasaki's should be Green
KTM's should be Orange

and no variations whatsoever. What a boring world it would be.

It's not a factory racer.. so it can be any color he likes. ;) As soon as honda pays the rider to race.. then they'll wear red. :)

Besides, about the only thing left on that thing that is "Honda" is the engine casings, and a few gears.. lol.

[450r51]

thanks *** like i didnt know that

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 450r51
thanks *** like i didnt know that

hey new guy.....take your attitude to a different thread, or better yet away from here all together;)

[450r51]

what i cant swear, didnt know that my bad. wont happen again

[TCracin440ex]

i dont think it was quite your swearing because last time i checked *** aint a bad word...he is refering to your sarcastic attitude and remarks...id just say watch the attitude and you should be fine arround here

[450r51]

just one question tcracin is it because i was criticizing his quad because last time i checked, i didnt know it was bad, im sry if pappy cant take criticizim

[TCracin440ex]

no no no you got it all wrong...I never once read pappy tell anybody that they have to like his quad

hes a grown man and can accept that everybody will have their opinions...Opinions are like *******s everybody has 1, but everybody's is different

[Pappy]

your free to critize all you want....its your attitude thats got to go.

[450r51]

thank you, but tell me what i did wrong. i think my attitude was fine. and anyways all hondas will always look good to me

[TCracin440ex]

ok the point where you said that honda should be red...another member posted his reply to that comment and you said "thanks *** like i didnt know that" just the phrasing to me made it come off like you had an attitude...imo

[kyleschonert]

ok kid, the point is, is that your like 14 with a quad you didnt pay for, and nobody appreciates your sarcastic attitude. The Whole "thanks ***, like i didnt already know that. " If you didnt like his quad, keep it to your self. Pappy has an awesome quad, look at that thing. The all black may be a little plain, but i stilll like it when it is as trick as that. And with all the quads being one color, how gay would it be to go to races and not see different color schemes, thats like watching a black and white movie. Just keep the sarcastic remarks to yourself and if you dont like somebody's quad, or somebody, keep it to yourself, just like the forum rules have stated.

[Pappy]

she has changed slightly:eek2:

[DH400EX]

I liked the black better , imo. But the white looks pretty good to.

[chad502ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
she has changed slightly:eek2:

you bring'n that sweet machine to Rausch?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by chad502ex
you bring'n that sweet machine to Rausch?

yessir

[450robot]

thats awsome man, i didnt really like the white all that much in the beginning, but the carbon hodd really makes it look cool

what kind of graphics were you planning on getting? quadtechs would look pretty mean on that

[Pappy]

I will be running ATVRiders.com site graphics and should have them today.

[MX#9]

I'm an old fuddy duddy because I think all Hondas should be red too.
Of course,I think that all Yamahas should be yellow!

It is still a cool quad there Pappy,and, even though I'm too cheap to drop that kind of cash,I'd sure like to ride it for a day.

[Pappy]

i was always partial to the white 250r and even the white atc250 trikes(well, white was used..lol)

when i first got back into quads in the late 90's early 00, one of the first quads that caught my eye was i believe a full LSR 250R based quad. that look stuck with me and it has pretty much carried thru to this day.

dont let the looks fool you, the engine is bone stock. and if i didnt do all the powdercoating work myself she would be still sporting the stock paint....lol

[fastrider450r]

WOW pappy, very nice. How do you like the Custom Axis?
Do you like them better than the Elka's?

[kyleschonert]

that white looks even better than the black. Those elka's would look great with that white plastic. But axis does to. What plus inch a-arms are those?

[Pappy]

the axis are very nice, much more plush at slow to mid speeds then the elka's. but at speed i think the elka may be a bit better.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by kyleschonert
that white looks even better than the black. Those elka's would look great with that white plastic. But axis does to. What plus inch a-arms are those?

they are Lonestars new XC arm and are +1/2

[fastrider450r]

very nice they are lonestar a-arms right?

[fastrider450r]

i saw your other thread that is a nice lonestar swingarm!

[Pappy]

yep, the new LSR swingarm/linkage should top off the suspension nicely. i also have new graphics and a Rossier exhaust due in today. maybe i will finally be done after that:p

[fastrider450r]

Originally posted by Pappy
yep, the new LSR swingarm/linkage should top off the suspension nicely. i also have new graphics and a Rossier exhaust due in today. maybe i will finally be done after that:p
probably not:blah:

[MX#9]

Funny you metioned the white 250r's.
Me and my big mouth on "hondas should be red".
I had an 86 and 87 250r and both were white and BLUE!

I guess on a soapbox I lost my memory!

Excuse me while I cook up a batch of crow.

[Pappy]

lol...i didnt mean to show you were wrong..haha i never even considered it.

i enjoy alot of colors, difference and personal taste is what its all about!

[JDiablo]

Hey pappy those LSRs like teh ARS or ARSX?lol or w/e the initails are>?you have to use 20 inch shocks?

[Pappy]

yes, you have to use the LT 20" shocks

[Pappy]

graphics installed.

the company is sending me new tank graphics, not sure but i think they may be redesigned.

[Pappy]

Rossier exhaust installed!

Easiest pipe ive ever installed, 5 minute install.

[wvspeedfreak]

Cool.How does it sound?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by wvspeedfreak
Cool.How does it sound?

very throaty. deep like it should be.

i have heard absolutley nothing but good things about this pipe and im excited to get to have one. once we get done the rausch ride and i have dyno numbers to compare to a stock 450r i will do a full report on the exhaust.

[450robot]

looks alot better with the graphics!

you gotta give me a weather report of rausch creek on saturday

if it turns out to be nice, im gonna kick myself for not going

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 450robot
looks alot better with the graphics!

you gotta give me a weather report of rausch creek on saturday

if it turns out to be nice, im gonna kick myself for not going

its going to be typical august weather. will you and the quad melt of ya get mud or water on ya:confused: :p

[kyleschonert]

from the angles on one of those pics. it looks like your wheels are cambered in a bunch. Do you like it that way? I cant find a good feel for it, when i rode my friends whose was toed in perfect, but with works shocks, then mine thats cambered in to much, but elkas, they both feel jumpy, his b/c his shocks, and mine b/c my camber. It just feels weird. I guess it just takes some getting used to. Those graphics look bad!, and so does that pipe. How much better than the sparks is it?

[bpimpdaddy21]

Is that the short can Rossier? It looks like it, but I could be wrong. Also, how loud is it? I have read 105 dB with no sparky, but just wondering how loud it seems to you. Let me know. Thanks!

[chad502ex]

dyno results on this quad was amazing. I won't spoil the results and let Pappy and crew announce the results. But I was able to dial this puppy in on the dyno with MOBILE DYNO. We both got to take it for a spin and splash some mud on the crome finish..... doh! :p


I think there is a picture or two of us turning the wrenches for pappy while he served up an AMAZING :eek2: Saturday night meal.



Thanks Pappy and ATVRIDERS.com for the awesome weekend

[Dupontster]

Originally posted by chad502ex
dyno results on this quad was amazing. I won't spoil the results and let Pappy and crew announce the results. But I was able to dial this puppy in on the dyno with MOBILE DYNO. We both got to take it for a spin and splash some mud on the crome finish..... doh! :p


I think there is a picture or two of us turning the wrenches for pappy while he served up an AMAZING :eek2: Saturday night meal.



Thanks Pappy and ATVRIDERS.com for the awesome weekend

I'll second the great weekend....Food was awesome....Pappy & Harlen are da men....Even had fireworks.....Was a shame gettin that thing dirty though.....Chad got his dirty though so everything was even...:D.... Pictures will be up in a little while...

[TWISTED]

Hurry up with the DAMN PICS!!!!! We blew a trailer tire out in Waldorf.

[Dupontster]

Originally posted by TWISTED
Hurry up with the DAMN PICS!!!!! We blew a trailer tire out in Waldorf.

Sorry it happened, but I am glad that I turned off...I didn't want to get my hands dirty again....

[Pappy]

that pipe ROCKS!

i turned the R over to Mobile Dyno and Chad and walked away:eek2:

after several runs on the dyno, some tweaks to the carb the old girl ripped off a 39.4 HP run! thats amazing on a bone stock engine with just an exhaust!

she does rip, when noone was looking i lit in to her and boy you gotta hang on now. :D


so chad, how much did they pay you to take my quad and hit every puddle in the place:devil:

to the person asking about the front end. i have one side misaligned and had no time to correct it. i knew i couldnt ride it anyway due to being ill, but we should have her fixed this week.

[chad502ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
so chad, how much did they pay you to take my quad and hit every puddle in the place:devil:



Pappy, the truth is nobody payed me,,.... ;) but really i was going soooo fast i din't have time to manuevor around the mud puddles. Sorry bout that! I know clean'n her up was probally a biatch! Really, It was flying,....

:macho:

[Pappy]

haha, clean up will take 10 minutes, no harm done. its made to get dirty!

i cracked into it today and its a beast!

[Pappy]

here is a pic in the sunlight...and clean...lol

[jwick07]

papy looks great, I might have liked the black a little better though but still great work man.

Hey I have been really considering the grooved front tires, I live in Kansas and the tracks or just about anywhere you ride the ground is really hard and my hole shots just seem to be wearing down fast. So how do those tires hold up and preform on the track trails.

[Pappy]

i dont know how well they will work or last on trails, but they work really well on hardpack tracks. wear is probably a little better on that type of track and the handling is better IMO.

but when its wet or the track is loose loam, its time to have some regular tires.

[jwick07]

thanks papy do you know were I can get the best buy on them. I really would like to get a set

[450robot]

Originally posted by Pappy
here is a pic in the sunlight...and clean...lol

ive said it many a time, and i will say it again, looks awsome oappy

can i get a next suggestion in for you next rebuild on it (unless ya get a different quad)

those white plasitcs and graphics with carbon fiber would look awsome with a deep candy red powdercoated frame

[Pappy]

Originally posted by jwick07
thanks papy do you know were I can get the best buy on them. I really would like to get a set

id try C&D Racing, Burgard Cycle and K&K ATV.

[jwick07]

Thanks again and sorry for typing like I'm stupid

So its Pappy not Papy my bad man

Later
Jess

[Pappy]

no prob man, ill answer to almost anything..lol

[400exrider0004]

hey pappy could you post some pics of your black 450 with the nerfs on and your powdercoated clutch cover if you have the pictures.
Thanks and awesome bike!!

[jwick07]

Hey Pappy did you sell the old Elkas that you had on this bad quad in the first picture on this thread. I'm looking for elkas that will work with plus two inch arms

Thanks again

[redrider05]

pappy you ever get that outlaw swinger and axis shock on the ride yet?

[krt400ex]

That bike is sick!!!! Nice job. How long did it take you to build??

[Pappy]

it only takes me a few weeks to build one, its waiting on parts that holds up the works.

we have built them in 2 days before.....it all depends on if we have every part here or we are sitting on our hands like everyone else waiting on slow companies to ship parts that they are so fast at taking money for.:mad:

[chad502ex]

Pappy is da man!:macho

[MMcCannon]

Sick quad! Anything different now? If so, any pics?

[450r51]

Originally posted by MMcCannon
Sick quad! Anything different now? If so, any pics?



yea, he parted it out.......and bought a yammie.:( :devil:

[Mr.Holeshot382]

This is by far the nicest 450r ive ever seen!I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!