99 Mustang GT vs. 96 Prelude?

[Andrew400ex]

Whats faster? My 99 Mustang with k&n and short throw vs. a 1996 Honda prelude VTEC. I think the mustang's faster but some kids are saying the prelude is faster.

[250x#93]

I dunno lol:devil:

[yoshz400rider]

haha the mustang is a GT right no problem dusting the prelude its got a V8

[Atreyu]

What kind of race are you talking about? In a 1/4 mile the stang should get it by around 10 feet or so (considering both are good drivers).

[yoshz400rider]

one more thing the mustang has 260 horses and 310 ft lbs of torque 14.6 in the quarter miile to the preludes 131 cubic inches 168 horses 212 lbs of foot torque and a quarter mile time of about 16.9 a good running V6 mustang will smoke the prelude so the people that think the prelude is fast tell them to print you out a time slip or just smoke him in it when his girlfriend is riding in it worked for me once in our 1995 mustang cobra smoked a tricked civic and got his girls number we dated for abotu 8 months haha

[yoshz400rider]

more than ten feet considering the mustang will do about two seconds faster in the quarter

[LazeR]

Is it a v6 prelude ? i know my step mom had a accord v6 vtec and that car got with it! Mustang GTs arent that fast though, my friends VW Passat 1.8T kept up with a mustang GT, i'd say the mustang would win though

[yoshz400rider]

the prelude is a 4 banger and no way a vw kept up with a mustang GT a V6 mustang def not a GT though except the 96 maybe because that was the first year they switched to a 4.6 and had alot of problems

[nhyfzrider]

MUSTANG. come on, my grandfather is turning over in his grave. THIS TOPIC SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!:eek2:

[yoshz400rider]

ya cuz there is no comparison 4cylinders just arent fast unless they have lots of work done i know a guy that has NOS in his cavalier it still only runs a 16.2 haha I gotta post some pics when our cobra is done 347 stroker turbocharged should put out about 550 horses and turn tens and still be a pure street car

[user101]

theres no replacement for displacement:D ;)

[Bush0102]

Originally posted by Atreyu
What kind of race are you talking about? In a 1/4 mile the stang should get it by around 10 feet or so (considering both are good drivers).


hahaha are you kidding?

the stang should run in the mid 14s on the quarter, that prelude will run maybe a 16.2 at best

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by user101
theres no replacement for displacement:D ;)


thats bull ****, i mean, a v8 vs. a 4 banger, sure, but like 426's are better than 440's and which one would you take? a 426 fo sho and i would rather have a 302 than a 350, and i could beat a lot of bigger motors in my car with my 302 that are bigger than my engine.

I mean come on, ports, valve sizes, intakes, cams, compresion pistons, air filters, carbs or bigger injectors, exhaust, those are more than cubes, like in V-8s or quads, now, a 4 banger has to have a lot done, but the pro ones run 8's and ive seen some 7's i think.


it all matters with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Bush0102]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
a 4 banger has to have a lot done, but the pro ones run 8's and ive seen some 7's i think.


and pro v8s run 4s. Honestly, 4 cylinder engines are built for economy, a v8 is built for power.

[yoshz400rider]

well put bush

[440ex2001]

Iknow for a fact the Mustang will eat him up stock for stock. I drive a 98 GTP 3.8l vs with a super charger and I pissed a a guy off in a brand new mustang GT the other day on the way to work because he was riding my arse and then went to pass me. I nailed it and he had to pull back in behind me a about 90mph. That GTP has humiliated alot of rice burners including Vtec hondas. So you'll get him for sure.

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by user101
theres no replacement for displacement:D ;)


Right on brother!!!
My GT350 was wicked while it was running. But no matter how wicked that 289 HIPO was my dads 99 saleen with the s351 package would trounce it!

[sharkinthepool]

HAHA:D I got a snake in the garage that would like to have a shot at that GTP.

Is that the labeling on that car now? Which one has the supercharger and which one does not?

Isnt the Bonneville the ssei?

[440ex2001]

It wouldnt be worth the trip. If the snake your talking bout is a cobra. It wouldnt be much of a match up. Those cobras are nasty.

[yoshz400rider]

Hey sharkininthepool what do you have do you have a Cobra what year. I got a 95 cobra thats about to have a 347stroker with a turbocharger. Cant wait to race some Vipers in it the Cobra should have about 550 horses and go in the tens in the quarter mile.

[quadrcr161]

god there is quite a bit of stupidity in this thread. i love it when people talk all kinds of trash without ever touching either car.

1st off a 94 up prelude vtec will turn a hellofa better time then a 16 sec pass, hell my crx would do better then that stock.
a 94 up prelude should clock off a 14.7-14.9 1/4 mile stock with a good driver. i rode to the track in the car, and watched it run 2 days after the guy got it then rode home in it. depends on the year of the GT it would be a very close race if not the prelude takes it but not by much.
again it depends on a lot of things, year of each car, track conditions and most of all driver.

[440ex2001]

LOL

[sharkinthepool]

Originally posted by yoshz400rider
Hey sharkininthepool what do you have do you have a Cobra what year. I got a 95 cobra thats about to have a 347stroker with a turbocharger. Cant wait to race some Vipers in it the Cobra should have about 550 horses and go in the tens in the quarter mile.

NO! I like them but I got a 1966 Shelby Cobra. 289 HIPO putting down about 320 HP.

[yoshz400rider]

thats a beautfiul car you have

[sharkinthepool]

It is Pretty Nice. I do not like the attention it draws. Makes you real leary of driving it anywhere. It has not even been to car shows in the past couple years.

Some chump decided to get a little too close to it with some dumb-*** rodeo belt buckle on and scratched it. Carved it to the metal, oh I wanted to kill him. 21 coats of feathered laquer and 6 coats of clear are hard too fix!

[yoshz400rider]

HEY QUADRACR are you serious?????
HAHAHAHAHA
Preludes do not run 14s not even close just like everyone thinks there neons are fast and cavilers they run 18s stock my buddy has a cavi with NOS runs a 16.2 you obvioiusly know nothing about cars a 4cylinder prelude does not run 14s the mustang does that is stock vs stock the mustang puts out 100 more horses comon man think before you talk. I could miss a shift in the mustang and still blow away the prelude my buddy has a prelude and although they are quick for a 4cylinder they will take the neon,cavi,civic etc. they dont stand a chance when running against the V8

[Atreyu]

At best, a stock prelude will only run a high 15 or low 16. A stock Mustang GT will run and average of high 14's low 15's. The V8 seems to respond a lot better to mods too.

[sharkinthepool]

Like it was quoted before... There is NO replacement for Displacement. Everything you add on to a V-8 only adds to the HP.

The only advantage that a prelude would have be it a v-tec or not a 4 or 6, is the weight of the car! That is it! It could be turboed and it is still going to have problems chasing down a V8 that is breathing good!

[quadrcr161]

if i still talked to the guy and know where he had the time slip hosted i would post it, btu i havent talked to him in a few years.
i was standing there when he clocked off a high 14 sec pass , time after time that night. car was bone stock and he had it for 2 days.

100 hp more? hmm quick google find came from

mustang gt (http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=1079&trimid=-1&src=VIP)


Coupe GTS Coupe GT Coupe Convertible Cobra Coupe GT Convertible Cobra Convertible
Standard Engine 3.8L 145 hp V6 4.9L 215 hp V8 4.9L 215 hp V8 3.8L 145 hp V6 4.9L 240 hp V8 4.9L 215 hp V8 4.9L 240 hp V8
Horsepower 145 @ 4000 RPM 215 @ 4200 RPM 215 @ 4200 RPM 145 @ 4000 RPM 240 215 @ 4200 RPM 240
Torque (lb-ft) 215 @ 2750 RPM 288 @ 3300 RPM 288 @ 3300 RPM 215 @ 2750 RPM 285 288 @ 3300 RPM


looks like a gt only come up to 215hp at 4200rpm

quick prelude google search

prelude specs (http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2176)



Engines Size liters/
cu. in. Horsepower Torque EPA city/hgwy Consumer Guide Observed
ohc I4 2.2 / 132 135 142 5-speed manual: 24/29

4-speed automatic: 22/27

5-speed manual: --

4-speed automatic: 24.6


dohc I4 2.3 / 138 160 156 5-speed manual: 22/27

4-speed automatic: 21/26

5-speed manual: 23.1

4-speed automatic: --


dohc I4 2.2 / 132 190 158 5-speed manual: 22/26

5-speed manual: 21.9



prelude makes 190hp, show me where the extra 100 hp come from?




you have friends that cant drive to start off with. i want to see pics of your turbo'd mustang. what size intercooler are you running? how old are you, it dosent sayin your profile.

ive seen plenty of 4 cyl break into the 14's easly. had a friend teg clip off a 14.9 with a 1.8 gsr motor. seen a crx smoking with a 1.6 doch zc motor click off a 15.2.

youve watched the fast and furioes to many time to think NOS is the answer to everything. :rolleyes:

edit: if you think your can get in the 10's with only 550hp good luck.

[440ex2001]

We all now how those import guys are they get pretty offensive and start making up specs to try and solidify their claims. The last time I was at the drag strip 1/8 mile rag strip (piedmont) Thier was a guy in a honda prelude with all the spoilers and ground effect you could stick on thier it had grapichs and black wheels lots of stuff. Well he lined up against a full size 04 dodge pick up with a HEMI. The import guys started purging and all that crap. The truck beat him by at least 30 feet. It was really funny. The announcer started say"HEY DOES THAT THING HAVE A HEMI!?" Everyone was laughing I kinda feel sorry for the guy driving that import.

[quadrcr161]

Originally posted by 440ex2001
Thier was a guy in a honda prelude with all the spoilers and ground effect you could stick on thier it had grapichs and black wheels lots of stuff.

thats your problem, body kits dont make you fast. i didnt make up specs, he is the one claiming 100 more hp. elevation has a lot to do with different times also.

[Dannys400ex]

this thread is so funny, how can you guys even compare a 4 banger to a v8 stang? i have a 2000 prelude with the vtech and my best friend has the all mighty mustang although it only has the 6 cyl and i can smoke his azzz, go ahead and laugh if you wish but i know i can because its happened alot more than once, now can you all even compare the prelude to a 4 cyl mustang? i didnt think so.

[440ex2001]

Well he had the typical loud *** stupid sounding exhaust and NOS. Still got killed

[quadrcr161]

Originally posted by Dannys400ex
this thread is so funny, how can you guys even compare a 4 banger to a v8 stang? i have a 2000 prelude with the vtech and my best friend has the all mighty mustang although it only has the 6 cyl and i can smoke his azzz, go ahead and laugh if you wish but i know i can because its happened alot more than once, now can you all even compare the prelude to a 4 cyl mustang? i didnt think so.

its a v8 mustang, and its vtec, vtech is a cordless phone

[440ex2001]

Originally posted by Dannys400ex
this thread is so funny, how can you guys even compare a 4 banger to a v8 stang? i have a 2000 prelude with the vtech and my best friend has the all mighty mustang although it only has the 6 cyl and i can smoke his azzz, go ahead and laugh if you wish but i know i can because its happened alot more than once, now can you all even compare the prelude to a 4 cyl mustang? i didnt think so.
We arent comparing a prelude to a 4cyl stang or a 6 like you beat and I have also beat...IN MY 93 SUNBIRD. Thats not saying much. We are comparing a GT stang against a vtech honda. Your post really didnt prove anything.

[Dannys400ex]

but why ? SOUNDS PRETTY FAIR TO ME

[yoshz400rider]

exactly we are not comparing a V6 we are comparing a V8 260 horses is what the mustang gt has check up the specs again sorry the mustang only has 70 more horses you want to see the turbo thats fine with me ill take some pictures this weekend the engine is at the machine shop but i got the supercharger at home in a box I will be glad to snap some pictures of the complete thing when it is done also I am 19

[quadrcr161]

if you post some pics, thats cool, i respect any fast car. i only use my crx for what its used for, good gas milage. i will try to get in touch with the guy in the prelude and see if he still have the time slip posted, ill also try to find the pics of his turbo build up. i stay away from the drag stip because of all the irritating kids in mommys accord. plus i have other things to worry about

[yoshz400rider]

got two different drag times for both under perfect conditions then from local track

Mustang Gt 14.1 Prelude 15.2
Mustang Gt 14.6 Prelude 16.0

either way you look at it the GT wins by a second which is alot in drag racing

My brother also machined a pulley for the turbo we are gonna run anywhere from 8 to 16 pounds of boost gotta play with it a little first

[quadrcr161]

ill put my 1.6 zc crx will pull a better time then the 16.0 prelude. what elevation are you at?

where did you find those times btw?

[yoshz400rider]

car stats and some site off google we are up in the air quite a ways

[quadrcr161]

the elevation can have something to do with it, our 1/4 mile is only 500ft above sealevel. i would go run my car but i hate going to the strip on friday nights. the hour or so driver there and back dosent bother me, its just the idiots. once i get a new cat and my cv joint fixed i might go grab a time on it.

[NitrousEdge]

Originally posted by yoshz400rider

My brother also machined a pulley for the turbo we are gonna run anywhere from 8 to 16 pounds of boost gotta play with it a little first

Turbo's don't use pulleys, superchargers do....



And Stock to stock a gt mustang will walk a prelude all day...

[yoshz400rider]

your right i meant supercharger

[Andrew400ex]

Wow, pretty heated...sorry i should've made myself more clear. I got a 99 Mustang GT 4.6L with 260hp and 310ft lbs of torque stock,with a K&n(i dont think it matters much) and a short throw shifter. This GIRL's car is STOCK. Ye its a girl. She's not challenging me,we're real good friends but a lot of guys are like she might out run u. Now i doubted it but i was gonna be like STFU and turn out to be wrong, but this only reassured me. Mustang will take the VTEC. Thanks.

[quadrcr161]

Originally posted by yoshz400rider
your right i meant supercharger

bbwwwaaahhhahaha, you say i dont know **** about cars and you cant event tell the difference between a supercharger and a turbo? wow i wish i would have read your post a little harder.

go race her, or actually have a guy drive her car. you wil prob win but i dont think youll walk off like you think

[yoshz400rider]

I know the diff just forgot my brother just bought it at a swap meet I dont know as much about them as he does but still know the basics

[Bush0102]

Originally posted by yoshz400rider
exactly we are not comparing a V6 we are comparing a V8 260 horses is what the mustang gt has check up the specs again

horsepower doesnt win drag races. torque does. Again, the mustang will dust the prelude.

[Bobbs07]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
thats bull ****, i mean, a v8 vs. a 4 banger, sure, but like 426's are better than 440's and which one would you take? a 426 fo sho and i would rather have a 302 than a 350, and i could beat a lot of bigger motors in my car with my 302 that are bigger than my engine.

I mean come on, ports, valve sizes, intakes, cams, compresion pistons, air filters, carbs or bigger injectors, exhaust, those are more than cubes, like in V-8s or quads, now, a 4 banger has to have a lot done, but the pro ones run 8's and ive seen some 7's i think.


it all matters with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



350 is way faster then a 302 dumbass

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by Bobbs07
350 is way faster then a 302 dumbass

your stupid



my car has a 302 and i could smoke 350's, everyone also thought this one kids car was fast with a 350, with **** done to it, and then they rode in mine and they are like wow, they all think or know i can beat him, and his is a crate and he did **** to his heads too, and maybe even more, and i can take him

your just a retard, so, will a 460 have more power than a 440? or more than a 426? think about that @sshole, its all how its built, cam, valves, ports, intake, carb, injectors, compression pistons, exhaust, all of that $hit

your just dumb

[440ex2001]

No one can say that a 350 is always faster than a 302 or vice versa. You cant call some one they are stupid for thinking one is faster than the other. You can argue which engine has more potential. I had a 81 z28 and got waxed by stangs all the time it had a 350 with some mild work done mostly bolt on stuff. and the stangs were 93ish with 302's. Just about a month ago I got one of my friends with a 95 stang and a 302 to race one of my bro's friends and his 01 0r 02 z28 LS1. The Camaro won everytime. So in this case a 350 was faster than a 302. You dont know much about engines if you just think a 302 will always when against a 350 or the other way around. There are to many variables. You really show your ignorance for calling someone stupid for not thinking the same way as you.

[Scott-300ex]

good point man, i guess i got out of hand, that guy just pissed me off saying "350's are faster than 302's dumbass"

i've said twice that it all depends on how its built, cam, valves, ports, intake, carb, injectors, compression pistons, exhaust, all of that $hit

so im not saying a 302 will always win, it depends whats done to it and stuff, im just saying, that a 283 could beat a 390, its not the displacement, its on the inside that counts.

That was my point, i was trying to make.

off the subject of stangs and rpeludes, 350's and 302's

there is a point where the motors engineering takes part in how much power a motor can make. (obviously) BUt when you start to artificially aspirate a motor almost all the time, all bets are off. I say this because some say INLINE motors rev way higher then V shaped motors. LIke say A REAL JAP CAR not a rice burner. take the skyline gt'r and the supra for example, both inline 6 and will smoke every car mentioned in this thread with MINOR work.Obviously im tlaking about the turbo models. the skyline and supra can make over 1000HP with way less money put into it then a v8. and its still streetable, no high comp pistons, loopy cams etc. Granted there are excpetions, but damn those inline 6 turbos are insane motors. These cars are fairly rare though. I MISS MINE, had a 300zx TT with boost controls, wastegates blow off valves, exhaust and intake, reprogrammed comp, all parts from greddy and a jim wolf computer with 17" antera 3 stars, man I miss it.

I for one LIke the new stang and been thinkin about buyin one regardless of how much faster the vette is, cuz ill make it a vette/burner STOMPER.

[sharkinthepool]

I hate to get in the middle of this...

..but stock for stock. a 302 stang and a350 camaro. For years has been proven that if one is faster than the other it is minimal. HOW. The weight diffirences between the two!!! Also when I say minimal. I am talking the lights at the launch type of minimal! .010 of a second type of minimal! Hot Rod, Car Craft, even Fast Ford and Mustangs, magazines have always stated the same!

[sharkinthepool]

Besides, This is about a V-tec Honda and a V8 Stang.

[hondalover]

ive got a b16 in a crx running mid 14's and my friend has a ls turbo in his honda civic hatchback, and smoked my other buddy in his Cobra mustang by a cars length from a 20mph roll, The last time we were at the track his little 4 cylinder was running 13.2 in the 1/4 with 225 horsepower to the wheels when it was dynoed. There are fast 4 cylinders out there, im not trying to rip on v8s, just open your eyes the whole world isnt filled with stupid ricers, and NOS is a ricer term try nitrous on for size

[YZ400EX]

The V8's are fast, but everyone comes accross all wrong on imports..Honda makes little cars with alot of power..I mean I own an Integra GSR with 180 horse stock (not to the wheels), but the weight ratio is in my favor so I smoke tons of V8's. I have beaten many many V8's including mustangs with my Integra GSR. Alot of the wins have to do with take offs and also the gearing plays a huge role in it all. Everyone always dogs on 4 cylinder cars, but do the math..The newer hondas and other 4 bangers have over 200 some close to 250 HP and the V8's only have a little over 300 + the imports are a smaller car so the weight to power ratio kinda evens out and the 4 bangers get better gas mileage..Yes the V8's are faster and they should be, but with a small amount of money and mods you can make a 4 banger smoke any of the V8's. This is a fact!!!

[440ex2001]

its actually ponounced N.O.S i you cll it noss and think its flamable u watchtomany movies.

[NitrousEdge]

Originally posted by 440ex2001
its actually ponounced N.O.S i you cll it noss and think its flamable u watchtomany movies.


lol I always yelll NAWWWWS right before my car blows up!!!



13.2 is a pretty quick car - I take it you guys are pretty young?

[NitrousEdge]

Originally posted by 440EXGUY
, but with a small amount of money and mods you can make a 4 banger smoke any of the V8's. This is a fact!!!


OK, I was right up there with ya in that post untill this line! Take a new Cobra and $1000 (small amount of $$$) bucks and you have a consistently low 12 second car. You honestly can't get many (if any) 4cylinder cars in the low 12's for a thousand.


And like was posted earlier in this thread - HP doesn't win a drag race, TORQUE does.

[YZ400EX]

Originally posted by NitrousEdge
OK, I was right up there with ya in that post untill this line! Take a new Cobra and $1000 (small amount of $$$) bucks and you have a consistently low 12 second car. You honestly can't get many (if any) 4cylinder cars in the low 12's for a thousand.


And like was posted earlier in this thread - HP doesn't win a drag race, TORQUE does.

Ok Ok..I may have been a bit off with that line, but I didnt mean the real high end V8's either..I am talking normal run of the mill cars you see running around most often..

[MOFO]

Originally posted by 440EXGUY
Ok Ok..I may have been a bit off with that line, but I didnt mean the real high end V8's either..I am talking normal run of the mill cars you see running around most often..



what? Are you talking about Grand Marquis or something? :rolleyes:

[TRX250X]

I'm glad some people realize that it doesn't matter what size a v8 engine is, the ones that are faster depend on what is done to them. For those people who think the 350 will always beat a 302. Look into chevy's own stable at the 1st generation Z-28 with a 302 motor (yes, chevy had a 302, check out http://www.camaro1stgeneration.com/cam1stgen/z28history.html ) This thing put down tons of power because of the way it was built. I've seen one of these before, and it was a sweet car. My high school youth group leader was rebuilding it.

I'm a ford man. I like the mustang 5.0. My first truck had the 5.0 in it. Of course the mustang motor was a lot different than the truck motor, further proving that what is done to the engine makes it a fast motor, or not.