Best pipe for 400EX? quiet

[Derag2]

What are a couple pipes for the 400EX that will give it all around more power. I don't want it to be really loud thou because i find loud pipes to be a little on the annouying side and i ride near houses so.

When ever i get a pipe i'm going to get a k&N. If i ride in sand would riding without a box lid but with an outerwear be okay or would it just be better to use the lid but put a couple wholes in it.

Also which one of the jets kits is the best one to use? I havn't doing anymod to any 4 wheeler before so this is all pretty new to me.

[jmpulse]

http://www.lteracing.com

[400exstud]

White brothers, or HMF.

There is no way the LTE even makes close to 6-6.5 hp over stock!!!

You would have to bore, or go higher comp. with a high rev. cam to get that much power.:p

[chucked]

Originally posted by 400exstud
White brothers, or HMF.

There is no way the LTE even makes close to 6-6.5 hp over stock!!!

You would have to bore, or go higher comp. with a high rev. cam to get that much power.:p

theres no way any pipe alone will do that

[littleugly03]

the R4 or the hmf would be your best bet. the hmf is the same as the R4 hardly any differince just price wise it is.:eek2:

[400exstud]

Thank you for seeing it my way Chucked

[440exnacsracer]

the k&n will be fine in sand, they are great filters and will withstand years of abuse. as for exhaust, i will agree with most, the HMF is a very well designed pipe, with good increases in power, and with the quiet core, spark arrestor, or both, it should not be very loud at all

[hondarider2006]

you won't go wrong with the HMF and a quiet core;)

[jmpulse]

Originally posted by 400exstud
White brothers, or HMF.

There is no way the LTE even makes close to 6-6.5 hp over stock!!!

You would have to bore, or go higher comp. with a high rev. cam to get that much power.:p

You must be on something, I have never made a claim like that, so you must be claiming that WB and HMF make that. I will state LTE will make the power output of other wide open pipes, when the LTE is restricted. The WB E-series was sad, to make 96dB, you could run only 6 disks, but to make full power, you needed to run 12 disks. I would guess that that would put the WB in the 98-103dB range!

The neat thing about the LTE system, is that it responds really nicely to mods! The more mods, the better the pipe helps. I am over 6hp with a 426, 10.5:1 piston. A dead stock motor will get about 4hp gain, real world. In a side by side db for db comparson, the LTE system will out preform other systems out there.

Here is a little to look at about it... http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88268

[BUILT TO RIDE]

the r4 has better top end, and is alot louder than the hmf, they look the same tho.

[TRXRacer1]

Originally posted by jmpulse
The neat thing about the LTE system, is that it responds really nicely to mods! The more mods, the better the pipe helps. I am over 6hp with a 426, 10.5:1 piston. A dead stock motor will get about 4hp gain, real world. In a side by side db for db comparson, the LTE system will out preform other systems out there.

OMG! Would you please stop pushing these POS's on everyone. How do you expect to get any respect when you make crazy claims like a 4hp gain on a stock machine. The only thing I can think of is that you either own stock in them, have a friend that owns the company or you foolishly paid for one and are trying to justify it. I read all the reviews out there, not just dirt wheels and they just aren't worth the money.

[jmpulse]

Originally posted by TRXRacer1
OMG! Would you please stop pushing these POS's on everyone. How do you expect to get any respect when you make crazy claims like a 4hp gain on a stock machine. The only thing I can think of is that you either own stock in them, have a friend that owns the company or you foolishly paid for one and are trying to justify it. I read all the reviews out there, not just dirt wheels and they just aren't worth the money.

I am not pushing LTE on anyone, just trying to let false claims be countered. Have you ever tested the system? So far, the only test out there is from Dirt Wheels, which there looks to be issues.

I have yet to see any real issues from people who actually own the setup, and these poeple have compared them to the big name systems. Here are just a couple from a quick search...

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104821&highlight=lte%2A

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123188&highlight=lte%2A This one has the can't be true dyno gain of 4+hp on the TRX400EX.

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105760&highlight=lte%2A

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88268&highlight=lte%2A Oops, a big name actually saying that they are quite good!

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102734&highlight=lte%2A And here is a little about how trust worthy Some concider Dirt Wheels.

Enough for now. If you want meet up, and do a head to head test sometime, let me know. Hell, I can even most likely arrange a head to head dyno challenge, for little to no cost, no game played.

Instead of attacking something new, that you don't understand, why don't you actually do some reasearch, and even test the product.

[ReconRider25]

hmf with quietcore.;)

[chucked]

Originally posted by jmpulse
I am not pushing LTE on anyone, just trying to let false claims be countered. Have you ever tested the system? So far, the only test out there is from Dirt Wheels, which there looks to be issues.

I have yet to see any real issues from people who actually own the setup, and these poeple have compared them to the big name systems. Here are just a couple from a quick search...

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104821&highlight=lte%2A

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123188&highlight=lte%2A This one has the can't be true dyno gain of 4+hp on the TRX400EX.

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105760&highlight=lte%2A

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88268&highlight=lte%2A Oops, a big name actually saying that they are quite good!

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102734&highlight=lte%2A And here is a little about how trust worthy Some concider Dirt Wheels.

Enough for now. If you want meet up, and do a head to head test sometime, let me know. Hell, I can even most likely arrange a head to head dyno challenge, for little to no cost, no game played.

Instead of attacking something new, that you don't understand, why don't you actually do some reasearch, and even test the product.

owned!

[Yamaha350x]

They sell quiet cores the the R4 and T4 pipes now

[TRXRacer1]

Originally posted by chucked
owned!

lol, owned what? More BS isn't owning anyone.

[400ex men]

the stock is a quiet 1:)

[littleugly03]

Y to bad there not going to make the R4 any more that sucks it was great but the HMF iss your best bet you cant go wrong with that.:)

[Derag2]

Is the HMF pipe Round or oval? Also is there only one kind or HMF pipe also if I order one do i just go with one spark arrestor or none? or what. Will the spark arrestors make it less noisy?

[jmpulse]

Originally posted by TRXRacer1
lol, owned what? More BS isn't owning anyone.

BS, hmm, ok. Please provied all the evidence you claim to have. I have shown at least one big name stating that the system is putting out equil power as other system, making less noise.

I have also offered you a test session. What exactly are you afraid of?

[TRXRacer1]

Originally posted by jmpulse
BS, hmm, ok. Please provied all the evidence you claim to have. I have shown at least one big name stating that the system is putting out equil power as other system, making less noise.

I have also offered you a test session. What exactly are you afraid of?

Your killing me man, seriously. You haven't offered any evidence yet besides opinion and a manufactures dyno(never trust) and I never said you couldn't come on out and show me a test of the pipe compaired to others. Next time your in Milwaukee come on by. I'll be glad to have you over. As far as me offering evidence I don't have to, your the one defending the POS pipes. I already stated the facts:
$ to gian ratio is not worth it.
the only mag willing to test it so far said it was junk
the two pipes won't help anything but sound and will hurt your low end(exhaust gas velocity)
You can't trust a manufactures dyno
twice the part to damage is never a good idea(especialy at those prices)
more weight is never an advantage

[n00b on a 400ex]

ok, i got a question, which would be better? an HMF slip-on, or a full system for my 400ex

[skippy]

gt thunder is one of the best pipes out for a 400ex

[hondarider2006]

Originally posted by n00b on a 400ex
ok, i got a question, which would be better? an HMF slip-on, or a full system for my 400ex

Well it depends if you have motor mods or not, and if not than do you have any planned for the future? If you do, than I would say get the complete system. If not, the slip-on will do just fine;)

[n00b on a 400ex]

dunno, i was thinkin about gettin some cams for it, and what im tryin to do mainly is keep up with a predator

[hondarider2006]

Originally posted by n00b on a 400ex
dunno, i was thinkin about gettin some cams for it, and what im tryin to do mainly is keep up with a predator

there is only 1 cam in the 400.