View Full Version : big gun or yoshimura for 400ex?
much2fear
11-05-2004, 11:36 PM
Which pipe is better for hill climbing for a 400ex? These are both full systems.
thanks
- much2fear
TRXRacer1
11-06-2004, 01:19 AM
Big guns are not as good as a Yosh. If your doing hill climbs I wouldn't get a full system. You'll have better grunt with a slip-on and your stock head pipe.
400exstud
11-06-2004, 05:54 PM
yoshi
theTman
11-06-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by JR3
yea get a yoshi slip on
400exstud
11-06-2004, 05:54 PM
I have a? Why would a slip on have more power?!:huh
Kennethyfz450
11-06-2004, 06:27 PM
neither
1.fmf powerbomb header
e series pipe
2.tc
3.lrd
4.sparks
5.ct racing
6.trinity
7.yosh
8.fmf powercore
9.big gun
10.dg
11.cobra
Toadz400
11-06-2004, 06:39 PM
The stock headpipe would be better because it gives more low end power than a bigger diameter pipe.
I would think a Big Gun would be an excellent choice for hill climbing because of the low end power it gives. I have a Big Gun slip-on and before when I had a 14t on it would pull like a 440.
chucked
11-06-2004, 07:02 PM
wtf? y does everyone talk so bad about big guns?
littleugly03
11-06-2004, 07:12 PM
because they suck you should get the R4 or the Hmf those are the 2 best pipes for the 400ex.
chucked
11-06-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by littleugly03
because they suck you should get the R4 or the Hmf those are the 2 best pipes for the 400ex.
how would you know, by reading reviews in dirt wheels?
littleugly03
11-06-2004, 07:16 PM
no because i ride with all the guys a hatfield and jeff and they would say the same thing and my brother ugly would to
400exstud
11-06-2004, 07:22 PM
anybody wanna say that there are "the best" pipes for different types of riding. x-6, and white for top end. t-4 and yoshi for mid. big gun for low end.
that's just how i see it. any pipe can be a shinning star in the type of riding it was ment for.
ny300exrider
11-06-2004, 07:35 PM
big gun is a good hill climb pipe its got good low end which will help you lug it up the hills
chucked
11-06-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by littleugly03
no because i ride with all the guys a hatfield and jeff and they would say the same thing and my brother ugly would to
Why do they suck? just because you say so?
FasstMidnightZ
11-06-2004, 08:03 PM
i'm with chucked all the way big gun is a great pipe for low end . how come u dont think so :ermm:
Toadz400
11-07-2004, 12:40 AM
Well, at least I know of two other people on this site that support Big Gun...
What is everyone's problem with Big Gun? I can promise you it makes a lot more bottom end than an X-6 pipe or a Yoshi pipe. And the last time I checked, you don't want a top end pipe for hill climbs?
Go with Big Gun and a smaller front sprocket!
And whoever said R4, what are you thinking?? I'd take a Cobra pipe over one of those anyday! Pieces of crap and they fall apart!
chucked
11-07-2004, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Toadz400
Well, at least I know of two other people on this site that support Big Gun...
What is everyone's problem with Big Gun? I can promise you it makes a lot more bottom end than an X-6 pipe or a Yoshi pipe. And the last time I checked, you don't want a top end pipe for hill climbs?
Go with Big Gun and a smaller front sprocket!
And whoever said R4, what are you thinking?? I'd take a Cobra pipe over one of those anyday! Pieces of crap and they fall apart!
and you can polish it and make it look bling
much2fear
11-07-2004, 08:55 PM
Is it true that I would lose some hp with a big gun?
Toadz400
11-07-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by much2fear
Is it true that I would lose some hp with a big gun?
NO!
Why does everyone think the Big Gun is horrible??? If you want something that sucks, get a DG or Cobra pipe!
much2fear
11-07-2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Toadz400
NO!
Why does everyone think the Big Gun is horrible??? If you want something that sucks, get a DG or Cobra pipe!
sorry, that was just something i heard on other forums.
does the big gun have a nice sound to it? how loud is it? Oh and im talking about the race series
YZ400EX
11-07-2004, 11:06 PM
I used to have a big gun full system and I loved it! Couldnt say anything bad about it ever..The system that I had was super loud, but sounded great..It definately gives a tremendous amount of low end power..I switched to HMF just because I wanted to try something else, but the Big Gun was great..Dont let anyone tell you different!!
initall
11-08-2004, 07:19 AM
I love my Big Gun Race slip on it is loud, I get compliments on it all the time on how it sounds. And the low end power is great. I wouldn't trade it for any other pipe.
Toadz400
11-08-2004, 03:44 PM
The Big Gun has an awesome deep throaty sound to it. I'd definately get it if you're looking for good low end gains.
much2fear
11-08-2004, 04:41 PM
will there be any top end increases, or will it be like stock on the top end?
I want to also add that I will be running it with the airbox lid removed, a K&N air filter, and of-course the proper jetting.
Thanks
- much2fear
Dannys400ex
11-08-2004, 05:58 PM
i have a 440 with the big gun full race system and it rocks,no problems with it here, get a big gun system and you wont regret it.
Toadz400
11-08-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by much2fear
will there be any top end increases, or will it be like stock on the top end?
I want to also add that I will be running it with the airbox lid removed, a K&N air filter, and of-course the proper jetting.
There will be little top end gain, the pipe focuses highly on low end and mid power. I run mine without an airbox lid and it helps greatly with throttle response. You will definately notice when you have the jetting dead on - you won't be able to keep the wheels down.
Vince44
11-09-2004, 07:32 PM
I would go with a Big Gun Race series
I have one on my 2005 400ex and it pull very hard compared to the stock
a lot better than the yosh.
It have one of the best sound i've ever heard,
very loud:D
Get a Big Gun and you wont regret it
FasstMidnightZ
11-09-2004, 07:49 PM
couldn't say it better my self :)
LTZ400rider
11-09-2004, 08:10 PM
id get the sparks
Toadz400
11-09-2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by LTZ400rider
id get the sparks
For low end power Sparks wouldn't work, at least the X-6...I have never tried the X-4 though, but I doubt it's as good as a Big Gun for low end power.
QuadJunkies
11-10-2004, 12:14 AM
Ive had three Yoshis and LUV it on my Honda!!!... I think that would be a great choice from the two........ ;)
jhr400EX
11-10-2004, 09:23 AM
I love my big gun. Great low and mid power, and sounds really good too.
chucked
11-10-2004, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by LTZ400rider
id get the sparks
Thats like asking, peanut butter and jelly or ham and cheese? and saying "turkey and mustard"
cals400ex
11-10-2004, 10:42 AM
my buddy switched from a big gun slip on to a x-4 and he gained about 3 bike lengths in a drag race from 1st to the middle of 5th gear, which is quite substantial. this was on a mild 406.
jahaiap
11-10-2004, 08:27 PM
my friend has a big gun race full and he sapnks me like a redheaded stepchild off the line and through midrange...but on top end he cant walk away from me...besides his jetting that is the only difference in our 400s
400exstud
11-11-2004, 06:19 PM
my buddy switched from a big gun slip on to a x-4 and he gained about 3 bike lengths in a drag race from 1st to the middle of 5th gear, which is quite substantial. this was on a mild 406.
on a built bike any system would gain that much.:scary:
Steve-o 400EX
11-11-2004, 07:07 PM
I swear by my e-series, i have a 416, hotcams stage 2, stock header, i run it with no discs and it screams up hillclimbs, it will bounce off rev limiter all day.:macho
cals400ex
11-12-2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by 400exstud
on a built bike any system would gain that much.:scary:
i wouldn't put money on that :macho
also, i really wouldn't consider his bike built. he had a rated 10:1 wiseco piston. which the compression was probably closer to stock than 10:1. it was 1mm larger than stock, which isn't much either. he was running a stage 1 cam. going from a slip on to a full system and gaining 3 bike lengths is quite a bit. he had he welds in his stock header grinded off too. losing by 3 bike lengths in a drag is getting beat pretty bad.
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