Stock Shock Revalve PICS

[Power Stroker]

I got my front and rear stock shocks revalved for +2 +1 a arms and for MX racing. C&D racing did it for me and they did an excellent job, couldn't be more pleased. They are very helpful and courteous. They used elka parts.

rear shock http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid143/p330f072e7547e61a667dac111d4ec228/f68ec1c6.jpg

front shockhttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid143/p8ec27b2afbcacd9186bae7d15ebdecdc/f68ec1c9.jpg

close up of the front shock, check it out triple ratehttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid143/p1e762e91a17c6b6edc7c5bdd351e0187/f68ec1ce.jpg

Finally the burgards came in, I didn't get everything aligned yet and also these pics are with the stocks wheels and tires, so it will drop more. These shocks really dropped the quad alot. I haven't had any ride time yet and it will be a while too.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/p241407a9f2bda71d311def996215a62d/f6584580.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/p2b3a4529e9c3d97a113ff84ab7f8449c/f6584554.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/pb901d658406c60895fa30e3bb24696fa/f658452f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/pe942ffbc157b95bca7a1b042f8cdfe85/f6584540.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/pe44792b90532fea4d96818495b86e163/f6584567.jpg

[Jersey450R]

how much was everything out the door to in the door?

[Power Stroker]

u have a pm

[brif]

Are those set-up as ssd?

[jmoney45]

That's great. It's awesome that we finally get stock shocks that can be rebuilt to 'aftermarket' specs, and cool that we have a site sponsor like C&D to hook us up. I'll go this route when I widen the R.

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by brif
Are those set-up as ssd?

I guess I can't answer that I am not very smart when it comes to suspension. All I know is that they are triple rate. You should ask Colby at C&D. What is ssd?

[rap169]

can u pm me on what this costs?

[Power Stroker]

u have a pm

[dart450r]

send me a pm also for the price... i'm interested

[jeepnrocks]

may i have a pm also, im interested

[jst]

pm with price please.

[drthrottle]

We're not talking under the table. How much did it cost? The biggest deciding factor is the $$. We're all honest here. How much?

[chris450R]

hey yeah man i would really like to get a price on that too. i really needs a better set up for mx. when you get them on post a review on how they work, feel, perform, etc. all that good stuff. thanks, chris

[DirtDevilBT]

how bout a pm over here! and can I get a b!tchin linkage too?

[kazpr]

Price??

[Jersey450R]

the price for this revalving isaround 400-475 depending on what you get

[spincr4hire]

let us know how they ride

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by Jersey450R
the price for this revalving isaround 400-475 depending on what you get

CORRECT

[jeepnrocks]

and for 475, can they be set up to work with the gt thunder linkage ?

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by jeepnrocks
and for 475, can they be set up to work with the gt thunder linkage ?

You will have to ask Colby at C&D on that question.

[xsr_racing28c]

is that $475 the price for all three shocks??? Hey powerstoker, can you pm me with the exact price of what it cost you and what yur setup is? thanks alot, Jason

[hondaracer305]

That is awesome man, ive gotta do that in the future, they look great!

[brif]

How about a pic with them on the bike?

[xsr_racing28c]

hey powerstoker , can you pm me with the price and setup you went with?
thanks ,jason

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
hey powerstoker , can you pm me with the price and setup you went with?
thanks ,jason

Your mailbox is full, so I can't send u a pm, but the revalve job cost me $450 without shipping and I have them set up for MX along with +2 a-arms and 175lb. rider.

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by brif
How about a pic with them on the bike?

I will post a pic with them installed, but I am waiting on my +2 +1 burguards.

[sharkinthepool]

heck with pms just post the price.

[Colby@C&DRacing]

Ok guys here is the deal. I have been testing this setup for about six months and have been really happy with it. This kit is a triple rate in the front and a dual rate in the rear both with lowered ride height. We revalve the shocks for your application ( xc/mx) stock or aftermarket arms. You really wont believe how well these shocks can perform when rebuilt and resprung. The first versions of this set used elka spring but we no longer use elka's springs for this setup, we have out sourced our parts from another vendor to serve exriders members better. We are also working on changing some internal parts on the rear shock to increase its travel. The turnaround time on this work is about a week.

If you guys have anyother questions feel free to call me
308-696-7805

[hsr]

Do you rebuild these shocks to ssd/zps?

[kazpr]

Originally posted by Colby@C&DRacing
We are also working on changing some internal parts on the rear shock to increase its travel.

How long until you get these changes made? What kinda price also please? Will the rear work well with the GT Thunder link? Thanks alot Colby.


<edit> Also what is the comaprison of this setup vs. say a Elka?

[Colby@C&DRacing]

The shock conversions are ready to go now. It will not work with the gtthunder linkage. We lower the ride height with springs he does it with a linkage. THere is no need for a new linkage with our setup. The problem on the stock rear shock is primarily valving and spring rate.

[hsr]

Are the stock shafts the same diameter as the shafts that elka uses? So are these more comparable to a works shock or are they better than that??? And what brand of springs do you use to replace the stockers?

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Colby@C&DRacing
The shock conversions are ready to go now. It will not work with the gtthunder linkage. We lower the ride height with springs he does it with a linkage. THere is no need for a new linkage with our setup. The problem on the stock rear shock is primarily valving and spring rate.

so your revalve/springs will make the rear end stop bouncing/bucking side to side on whoops/braking bumps then?... thats mainly what i want fixed.... that and the fronts since i already have +2 arms. i was considering the GT thunder linkage but after seeing this , i think i wanna have you guys do my shocks instead.

[Colby@C&DRacing]

We do not replace the shock shafts, We revalve and respring all three shocks. We get rid of all the bounce and buck of the stock rear shock. and lower the ride height. These changes make the stock shocks a really nice shock for the money. Where else can you spend this little money and have a triple rate fully adj front and a dual rate fully adj rear shock?

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Colby@C&DRacing
Where else can you spend this little money and have a triple rate fully adj front and a dual rate fully adj rear shock?


lol...no wheres else.

thats why i'll be sending you my shocks this winter:D

[Martin Blair]

sounds good but i would still recomend gt thunder linkage its 250 for linkage and revalve and rear springs run 90 if you want if for extended swinger.

[Mikenar]

can you PM me a quote please, thanks!

[rap169]

i dunno what i want now, i was gonna go gt thunder, but now C&D are in the picture too. I guess we need some good reviews of both setups front and rear. Ive only heard about gT's rear, nothing on thier fronts yet.

[hsr]

I think that the culprit of the rear end bucking/swapping on the 450r isn't necessarily in the linkage itselfl, but it could have a lot to do w/ the valving and spring rate of the stock shock, C & D's revalve and re-spring seems to be the way to go to me?

[Martin Blair]

i dunno im going to run elka fronts with gt thunder XC rearend

[hsr]

I've been trying to find the differences between C &D's revalve and re-spring and an elka or aftermarket shock. The stock shock is basically being converted to an aftermarket style shock, correct?The stock shocks are of very good quality if you really think about it. Showa is the same stuff that honda used on carmichael's factory bikes when he still rode for them. Now dont' get me wrong it was totally re-worked and had all of the goodies on it and everything, but showa is good stuff. And with a revalve and re-spring like C & D does, i think that it would be right on par with a good aftermarket shock, just my opinion.

[ZRider400]

i wanna see pics of them installed on the quad...to see how much lower it sits......etc

[Martin Blair]

im getting the elka fronts and the reuilt rear and linkage from gt thunder the link and rear mod runs 250. And i get good deals from elka.

[450 Racer R]

it seems like a great deal, but it's useless if you're trying to set up your bike for MX like I'm trying. Is that right?

[xsr_racing28c]

yea i wanna know if this set-up is ok for MX also... i am strongly thinkin about this set-up but with the lowered ride height , i dunno if it will be ok... i have pm'ed C&D a couple of times , but they havnt gotten back to me yet... i hope to find out soon so i can send them in...

hey powerstoker, what are you using yur 450 r for??? mx or xc?? let us know... also , so is c&d gonna still use elka parts or what are they gonna use, cuz i like the elka stuff, but i dunno who else would do that... .~Jason

[RedRacer44]

Can you just have the rear shock done? I already have Elka fronts but might consider doing the rear shock mod if I can have it done. I already have the GT Thunder MX linkage and revalved rear shock but I like the dual rate spring set up.

Might have a MX GT Thunder link for sale if anyone is interested :)

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Power Stroker
I got my front and rear stock shocks revalved for +2 +1 a arms and for MX racing.

[450 Racer R]

would it be alright with a set of long travel a arms?

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
hey powerstoker, what are you using yur 450 r for??? mx or xc?? let us know...

MX racing as I stated before. I will post some pics as soon as my new a arms come in. Maybe today not for sure.

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by 450 Racer R
would it be alright with a set of long travel a arms?

You can't use stock shock length with long travel arms so you have to buy aftermarket 19 inch shocks with long travel a-arms.

[Colby@C&DRacing]

to answer the question no we nolonger use elka springs. I am going to switch over to TCS springs for these kits. I have been reading on the trx450r.org site and some guys have a concern with there being a problem with a lowered ride height and there being less exposed shaft length. This is not an issue with the correct valving. This setup has no bottoming issues and no bucking issues. I race both MX and XC with this setup and love it. Of course I know you guys are waiting for someone else to do a review so as not to just have my opion which is smart.

[Colby@C&DRacing]

I have done one of these conversions for an A class Iowa harescramble rider and believe he will be using them this weekend in the 12 HOURS race. :)

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Colby@C&DRacing
I have done one of these conversions for an A class Iowa harescramble rider and believe he will be using them this weekend in the 12 HOURS race. :)

do you have any pics of them installed on a 450r?

[400exvet]

I have read that the GT Thunder link gives you more travel. I don't think that's even necessary for XC? I was going to do the GT Thunder rear shock re-valve and link thing and leave the fronts alone. But for another couple of hundred bucks I like the C&D re-spring and re-valve of all 3 shocks. Plus, I will not have to worry about modifying the air box and skid plate. About how much lower will the C&D pkg. make the 450r sit? Thanks, Doug

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by ZRider400
do you have any pics of them installed on a 450r?

[xsr_racing28c]

GET PICS

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
GET PICS

Your not the only one waiting to see what these look like on the quad. I am still waiting for my a-arms for burgard, so just be patient. By the way I notice you have burgard arms, any complaints?

[RedRacer44]

I have the GT Thunder MX link and revalve....it dropped my quad's ride height almost 2 inches, from 7 3/4 inches to 6 inches. GT Thunder setup works wonders....I'm going to have to see some serious reviews over this setup (mainly concerning the rear) before I switch from my GTT setup.

[rap169]

yes, would somebody please try this rear shock out so we all can figure out what we want to do. I was leaning towards the gt thunder setup due to the increased travel, but i like the triple and dual rate springs of C&D.......

[Colby@C&DRacing]

Sorry for the delay in responce guys. We have been out of town since last wednesday preparing for the 12 hours. As stated before this setup works great for MX and XC. The cost for all three shocks is $550 installed. As far as pics I can't take any right now our 450 is stripped to the frame being powder coated. We had a Team at the 12 hours this weekend running my shock conversion in the A class they finished 12th. there is a picture of there quad in the 12 coverage they are team quadgods. Our shock conversion lowers the bike between 2 and 2.5 inchs

[kazpr]

Colby what is the difference of this $550.00 now vs what Power Stroker got done to his for $450.00? Thanks alot

[Colby@C&DRacing]

There is really only one difference the rear now has a better threaded preload adjuster. I would not have changed anything but I was forced to look elsewhere for my parts, which forced me to increase the price.

[the Z Man]

Hey guys, I just finished the 12 Hours Of ATV America on this conversion, We really enjoyed the set up, it took the hard hits and braking bumps with ease, and fatigue was not an issue.
I cannot post pics on this sight but I am sending Colby some pics of the quad after the race with no clean up, as you see it is how it finished..... Z
I reccomend this set up if $$ is an issue as it is for me, though it is not like the full blown +1 long travel, it is just as good as the TCS ZPS I have on my 400ex wich cost me double what C and D Racing is charging
Keeper Pinned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dirtriderex]

I'm on it this winter:devil:

[rap169]

do the spring come that way in black? Or do you send them to a powdercoater? I wnat to pc mine a different color and would rather get them bare.

[Colby@C&DRacing]

Here is a pic of Zmans bike after the 12 hours

[Colby@C&DRacing]

another

[Colby@C&DRacing]

Last one. Thanks for the pics Bob we will see you at the banquet in two weeks:)

[the Z Man]

Thanks for being a Sponcor for me this year, We can talk about next year at the Banquet ( ????? )
Thanks for the shock set up, the other team members really liked the set up and will be in touch with you for upgrades on theirs as well.
Keeper Pinned !!!!!!!!!!! The Z Man # 6 (overall finish for the season )

[Fred55]

Zman what team did you race on in the 12 hours race?

Did you race with Shane Buss?

[650ex]

This is just my opinion so dont hold me to it...I would not allow any kind of Elka part on my quad...Ive had nothing but bad experiences and know guys that have had nothing but bad experiences...Id spend the money on Works before id ever buy Elka again....The next set of shocks are gonna be PEP

[the Z Man]

Yeup, Shane The Hitman Buss, we ran # 88 The QuadGodZ, he was pulling some realy fast lap times for the the team, and he even took a hit for us,,
Did you race too? I saw there was quite a few riders out of Wisconsin... Z # 6

[bigblock]

I havent posted in awhile , but I had colby do this conversion on my 450r over a month ago and MX and XC has performed awesome once I dialed the rear end in, bucking was gone, and turning with the lowered ride height was night and day verses stock. You cannot beat this set up for the money!!!!!!!

[Fred55]

Originally posted by the Z Man
Yeup, Shane The Hitman Buss, we ran # 88 The QuadGodZ, he was pulling some realy fast lap times for the the team, and he even took a hit for us,,
Did you race too? I saw there was quite a few riders out of Wisconsin... Z # 6

No, I didn't race, I wish that I could've but I had other things going on:(

Shane lives pretty close to me, I've raced/riden with him a few times, and he said he had a good time racing when I spoke with him on Monday, he was tired though! lol I wish I woulda been able to come and watch you guys! He did mention the wreck he had also, it didnt sound too pretty!

[the Z Man]

Well, we may be meeting sometime soon, I want to keep in shape so I might come over and ride some week-end, I 'll be sure and tell him for Fred to come and join us!!!! Z # 6

[Fred55]

Fred's not my real name though..my first name it Tom...the Fred comes from my last name, Friederick

[the Z Man]

So, wouldn't it be Fried ?? like chicken//lol,, Just kidding Tom, hope to ride with you soon, Z

[Power Stroker]

I just got them installed so check the first page to see them mounted on the 450R.

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Power Stroker
I just got them installed so check the first page to see them mounted on the 450R.

looks good.....


id consider adjusting the camber on them arms so that the tires are atleast verticle....and not angled outwards.

Let us know how the ride and if you think it was worth the money.

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by ZRider400
looks good.....


id consider adjusting the camber on them arms so that the tires are atleast verticle....and not angled outwards.

I stated at the beginning that I haven't got anything aligned yet.
So simmer down ;)

[ohguy79]

Hey stroker,
as soon as you get a chance to test those out can you let us know how they work? I am very seriously thinking of having C&D do mine this winter. Thanks for all the pictures and info.

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Power Stroker
I stated at the beginning that I haven't got anything aligned yet.
So simmer down ;)

lol sorry about that.... i have the tendancy to just look at pics and ignore the text:o

are your shocks still ride height adjustable?

[Power Stroker]

Originally posted by ZRider400
lol sorry about that.... i have the tendancy to just look at pics and ignore the text:o

are your shocks still ride height adjustable?

Yes they are