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Bigg Pimpin
10-21-2004, 12:04 AM
I don't even have my 416 together yet and already got a guy on a stock '04 Predetor that wants to race. He seems to think he is just gonna smoke the 'lil ole 400ex in a drag race. :rolleyes: so as soon as I get it broke in I am going to head out to race this guy. I've never ridden a Predator nor had much experiance with them. I think he's gotta be smokin' something to think he's gonna outrun my 400. The Predator is supposed to be all stock and my 400 has a 416 with 10.8:1 JE, Fully ported head, Curtis Sparks full system, TC racing woods cam, K&N, no lid and choke delete.

he even offered to race title for title :huh I could be wrong but I am pretty confident I am gonna completly blow his fenders off! So what do yall think?

Cole Trane
10-21-2004, 12:58 AM
Be careful man, the predator's are a very fast quads. Even stock. A lot depends on the rider, so good luck.

LazeR
10-21-2004, 01:07 AM
Hopefully you smoke him, but i wouldn't race for "slips"

Bigg Pimpin
10-21-2004, 01:19 AM
Not to worried about the rider part. I know I can ride and I am taking into account that more than likely he can ride too so hopefully it will come down to he who has the better machine. I also think I will go down a tooth on the front before this race. Well I wasn't going to race for slips anyway even if I knew I would win. Just takes the fun out of it. Maybe a nice c-note though. Glad to hear they are fast should be a good race then.

MY450R
10-21-2004, 06:28 AM
i think you got a good race on your hands

steveatv3
10-21-2004, 07:40 AM
the predators deff. have some pep i have an 03 and my 440

10-21-2004, 07:45 AM
i think the predator will smoke you..ive seen them drag race and they are quick...tkae him into the woods or MX track and he might as well be on a stock banshee...you'll def. have an advantage then

n00b on a 400ex
10-21-2004, 09:25 AM
it depends where you race, wide open on a dragstrip or somethin the pred might take the lead, i dont know what your accel rate or top speed is though, so i dont know. on a trail or mx race you could take him. i have 2 friends with preds and those things are fast...even stock (04 and 04TLE pred), one thing i noticed is are you running a stock pipe? if so, take the end cap off unless its really dry (all it is is a spark arrestor and kinda silencer). but be careful about it, while it has back pressure, you might heat up the headpipes very fast, and i dont want you starting a fire cause of no spark arrestor.

UglyMotha™
10-21-2004, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by n00b on a 400ex
it depends where you race, wide open on a dragstrip or somethin the pred might take the lead, i dont know what your accel rate or top speed is though, so i dont know. on a trail or mx race you could take him. i have 2 friends with preds and those things are fast...even stock (04 and 04TLE pred), one thing i noticed is are you running a stock pipe? if so, take the end cap off unless its really dry (all it is is a spark arrestor and kinda silencer). but be careful about it, while it has back pressure, you might heat up the headpipes very fast, and i dont want you starting a fire cause of no spark arrestor.



:huh

zephead400ex
10-21-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
:huh

LMAO! I was thinking the same thing!

Don't get your hopes up too early their kid, the Pred's are pretty quick even in stock form. You might just get your arse beat.

mrnate400ex
10-21-2004, 10:07 AM
my guess is that you should get him in the first 4 gears, but after that the pred will take over. the top speed of the preds are quite a bit higher than the 400. if you want to win, make sure to keep it relatively short.

Flynbryan19
10-21-2004, 11:56 AM
I think you got more on your plate than you can eat.....:blah:


And I still think it'll be a struggle on the trails.....Too many people don't give the pred enough credit.;)

BrandonBlackmon
10-21-2004, 12:19 PM
I have an 02' 400ex and I have recently raced a predator. All I have is ITP holeshots (front and rear), we raced on an open road and I jumped out at first. Through third gear I was still ahead AND SURPRISED, but as soon as I shifted to fourth he passed me and there was no catchin' up.:(
I think with all you have in yours, you might have a pretty good chance. Let us know how it works out!

QuadJunkies
10-21-2004, 12:40 PM
I totally LOVE my Honda. but we have both the Predator and the Honda(mine is a 426 with all the trimmings:devil: )and I xan get off the line faster than he canBut.... he can blow by me in a 4th gear wheelie while I in 5th gear pinned:huh :o :grr: My honda is not slow. But its slower than a Predator...

n00b on a 400ex
10-21-2004, 01:14 PM
you could just slash the preds tires if nothing else works :scary:

UglyMotha™
10-21-2004, 01:20 PM
i eat predators in a 300ft drag with no sweat, anything after that there's no chance without running taller gearing and even still if i went to taller gearing then i'd loose on bottom and wouldn't be able to catch him on top besides drag racing is for sissy's who gives a crap :o

bama400ex
10-21-2004, 03:35 PM
i think you should race him for pink slips. that way a fellow predator rider can make a few hundred bucks parting out your 400ex on ebay.

lol
10-21-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by bama400ex
i think you should race him for pink slips. that way a fellow predator rider can make a few hundred bucks parting out your 400ex on ebay.


ummmmm.....ok:ermm:

Kilabanshee
10-21-2004, 05:26 PM
I raced a few predators with my 416 cam,pipe,filter,porting, ect and it basically came out to an even race or whoever got the best start won.

DEAL
10-21-2004, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by MixMasterMike
i think the predator will smoke you..ive seen them drag race and they are quick...tkae him into the woods or MX track and he might as well be on a stock banshee...you'll def. have an advantage then

Woods or mx? What are you talking about.
The predator is one of the best handling stock quads out there right now .. they are a little heavier then the rest but they can still hold their own on the track.

hond_rider52
10-21-2004, 05:49 PM
he should take you in a drag but not on the mx track

Kilabanshee
10-21-2004, 07:33 PM
Yeah with all the suspension mods to the ex you should have a problem on the mx track. I raced d6 xc and there is one guy who really gives me some competition on his predator they really are some good handeling and ballsey quads. I know they can be very fast woods quads but really havenot seen to many on the mx course I heard they kind of jump like a raptor which I know dont have the jump the best.

quadkrazy400ex
10-21-2004, 08:25 PM
with my mods in signature, i can outrun a predator through all of the gears, but the predator has more top end then mine so after awhile of running wide open, he could slowly catch up

but from a dead stop i could holeshot the predator pretty good and keep about 2-3 bike lengths ahead of it

440exnacsracer
10-21-2004, 08:40 PM
yall must not be racing good riders. i have NEVER been beaten by an ex, or a 450r. my predator (when stock) was faster than my 400ex w/440 kit, je 13:1 piston, hotcam, hmf exhaust, open airbox. ive raced several 440s and spanked them. then only things ive been beat by is yfzs, and a yoshimura z450, and one modded v-force gave me trouble, as i won 3 of 6 races.

Bigg Pimpin
10-21-2004, 10:25 PM
Thanks guys. Guess we'll see as soon as I get mine back. I post back up after we race to let yall know the outcome. Should be a good race either way. I know there's no way in heck he'll catch me in the woods all I care about is the drag race right now. He already declined my offer to race on a woods track. ;)

Flynbryan19
10-22-2004, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by *********400ex
with my mods in signature, i can outrun a predator through all of the gears, but the predator has more top end then mine so after awhile of running wide open, he could slowly catch up

but from a dead stop i could holeshot the predator pretty good and keep about 2-3 bike lengths ahead of it

Sure is gettin' deep in here......:rolleyes:

Bobbs07
10-22-2004, 06:43 AM
I raced a predator on my cousins 03 kfx with a yoshmira sp? pipe and a few other engine mods like airbox and stuff and beat him in like an 1/8 mile race. beat him. then he flew past.

BrandonBlackmon
10-22-2004, 09:46 AM
Almost!

440exnacsracer
10-23-2004, 10:51 PM
Sure is gettin' deep in here......

yep, puttin on my waiders:D

SRH
10-23-2004, 11:00 PM
predator and yfz are really close in a drag, and i know a 440 isnt close to a yfz after you hit 3rd g ear, thats a duncan 440 national motor.....i think predator shouldnt have a problem walking away from most of the other quads , yes its a polaris but it is fast

ReconRider25
10-24-2004, 12:34 PM
with my slip on, no lid, k&n rejet and 14/39 gearing i can beat some predators in 300 foot grass drags. if it was longer theyd eventually pass m,e tho.

440exnacsracer
10-24-2004, 09:13 PM
can beat some predators in 300 foot grass drags.


hmmm, preds are known to have bad traction....wonder what would happen on asphault, or with my razr 2's???:confused: , not raggin the 400's, heck i have one, but the pred is a far superior machine

Plante400
10-24-2004, 10:23 PM
Whos a better rider. thats all you need to know to whos going to win the race.