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Scott-300ex
10-18-2004, 12:27 PM
my friends brother has this stock raptor, and he says that all stock raptors go 100 miles per hour easy, i laughed for a minute and was like, i think its 72 bud, he's like, oh my god, they can do 90 easy, and they go 100, so I kept telling him how wrong he is, but im not ganna put up with his **** for long, when he is wrong he never admits it and says he is always still right after we prove he was wrong, he's like, no, your wrong.

also my other friend was there and he said his blaster did 70 before he sold it and all he did was a pipe and filter which is just bottom end basically, i told him you'll have to change the gearing for top end.

so, if you guys have that speed chart with the top speeds of the 4 wheelers could you send that so i can show that idiot. also, if you want to write anything go ahead.

thanks

sharkinthepool
10-18-2004, 12:30 PM
heck with that, just get him to get it out on a street somewhere where there is a cop and get him going when he passes the cop you will have proof of how fast he was going.

wafr, raptor doing 100, I am still laughing!:D

bansheeguy77
10-18-2004, 12:34 PM
yeah my neighbors uncle said his raptor did 110 easy with pipe and K&N...but yet when i challenged him for slips on my shee he wouldnt race me with the 110 mph raptor :confused: :confused: run it beside a car or something. or find a dirtwheels where they have a raptor test they usually say how fast it is on top.

MY450R
10-18-2004, 12:45 PM
i hope your friend is reading this
YOU ARE STUPID AND DO NOT HAVE A CLUE
your raptor will not do 100 unless yopu do some major gearing changes and even then it'll be hard pressed to do it unless you have some motor mods

UglyMotha™
10-18-2004, 12:59 PM
to be 12 again :rolleyes:

Taco
10-18-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
to be 12 again :rolleyes: My 400 will do 95 so a Raptor has to go at least 100 :rolleyes:

Screamin440
10-18-2004, 01:16 PM
Even with everything that's done to my quad, it'd be hard pressed for it to get beyond 80.

UglyMotha™
10-18-2004, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Screamin440
Even with everything that's done to my quad, it'd be hard pressed for it to get beyond 80.


now this makes me laugh :o you running some pretty tall gearing

MrTrendy1
10-18-2004, 01:28 PM
So Ugly, what is a 440 generally run with what he has? I know I've used GPS on my stock 400 and got it to 71. I'm just curious because I'll probably be doing a 440 eventually.

Taco
10-18-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by MrTrendy1
So Ugly, what is a 440 generally run with what he has? I know I've used GPS on my stock 400 and got it to 71. I'm just curious because I'll probably be doing a 440 eventually. You must've had the world's fastest 400 ever cause the most ive seen with mine is 69 with a GPS downhill and bouncing off the rev limiter. Gearing people Gearing

sharkinthepool
10-18-2004, 01:34 PM
"ahhh just put a 660 craptor engine in it. No reason to do all that work of a 440. a craptor will obviously do 100 from what all these guys are posting."


To funny! i have seen one at the drags with a built lower end running nitro and it does not even hit 95!!! so tell me how a filter and a pipe is going to push a craptor to 110??? My buddies lt500r is built as far as CT racing would take it and it will only hit 100!

UglyMotha™
10-18-2004, 01:34 PM
sure a 440 will run 80 no sweat, just by building your motor doesn't make your bike any faster than what it is just gets you there quicker, only thing that changes top speed is gearing but running taller gearing takes away from torque numbers so why would you really wanna do that


so in other words building up the gear to achieve those speeds makes your lowend sluggish.......... sounds real cool to me :rolleyes:

Rico
10-18-2004, 01:35 PM
my fo sixteen duz 104 and thats a fact:macho

Taco
10-18-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
sure a 440 will run 80 no sweat, just by building your motor doesn't make your bike any faster than what it is just gets you there quicker, only thing that changes top speed is gearing but running taller gearing takes away from torque numbers so why would you really wanna do that


so in other words building up the gear to achieve those speeds makes your lowend sluggish.......... sounds real cool to me :rolleyes: To go faster duh:rolleyes:

UglyMotha™
10-18-2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Taco
To go faster duh:rolleyes:



i'm sorry.......... i'm a retard :o

10-18-2004, 01:47 PM
our Kymco will do about 40 maybe??????:confused:

acold7dusta
10-18-2004, 01:54 PM
60 on the trails around here is even prolly too fast

Screamin440
10-18-2004, 01:54 PM
Ugly,

I haven't had the chance to clock my quad yet. However, I have clocked my friend's Warrior before he did the cam and rebuild and he hit 65. We were leaving our riding area the other day heading back towards the trucks and he opened his up. I followed him in 5th at half throttle and paced him.

So my question is this: Is the top speed on a stock 400EX limited by gearing or is it limited by the lack of power up top?

Scott-300ex
10-18-2004, 01:58 PM
thanks guys, i'll have to show this to that fool. And some people said the raptor has filter and pipe, but that raptor is stock and he thinks its a top fuel dragster or something.

when i get my yfz450 i'll race him and blow by him and be like, yeah, my 450 does 330mph


haha

UglyMotha™
10-18-2004, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Screamin440


So my question is this: Is the top speed on a stock 400EX limited by gearing or is it limited by the lack of power up top?




think bout what you just asked :huh


if taco is doin 69 bouncing off the rev limiter how is more power goin to do him any good when the bike is already revved to the max, speed is relative to engines rpm if your doin 9000 rpms in 5th gear and your doin 69mph how is another 5hp power goin to make you go any faster when you still can't go beyond 9000rpms, gearing controls top speed period

Screamin440
10-18-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
think bout what you just asked :huh



My bad... shoulda thought before I posted. :(

10-18-2004, 03:28 PM
ive been clocked on my huffy doing 8mph:o

Ryan
10-18-2004, 03:45 PM
Like Ugly said, the only thing thats gonna get you any extra top speed is gearing- (Larger sprockets, tires), And your max RPM.

All those other hop ups only increases your acceleration. If they say, "Sparks 440 kit will give you a better top end and a weaker bottom end," They are talking about how the power will be put out in your RPM range.

K_Banger125
10-18-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by nacsracer27
ive been clocked on my huffy doing 8mph:o

with stock gearing??

:D

Punk'd
10-18-2004, 05:10 PM
Here you go fellas

http://www.freewebs.com/reconrider25/atvtopspeeds.htm

stupid driver
10-18-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Scott-300ex
thanks guys, i'll have to show this to that fool. And some people said the raptor has filter and pipe, but that raptor is stock and he thinks its a top fuel dragster or something.

when i get my yfz450 i'll race him and blow by him and be like, yeah, my 450 does 330mph


haha

be sure to take your new 450 to show n tell

bansheerider_13
10-18-2004, 08:49 PM
like already said you can do unlimited mods to your bike but unless u change your rev limiter gearing or tires you will not gain any top end

MrTrendy1
10-19-2004, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Taco
You must've had the world's fastest 400 ever cause the most ive seen with mine is 69 with a GPS downhill and bouncing off the rev limiter. Gearing people Gearing

I wouldn't say the worlds fastest, but as I recall, many of these bikes vary in speed. One can be top of 65 and one could top 70. You throw in factors of downhill, size of rider, straightness of the road, and etc and you'll really see how fast it will go.

dunnonuttin
10-19-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
to be 12 again :rolleyes:

he's right. hell i did a triple backflip over 109 cars on my bike when i was 12

did i tell yall about the time i won gncc on my all stock tricycle back in 62?:o :rolleyes:

Krazy Kid
10-19-2004, 07:49 PM
...that would be crazy my cuz has a 250r that is completely ripped...(he wants to sell it) you name it he has it on there...bored, ported polished everything...id say it does (correct me if im wrong) maybe 80...but i think the gearing has been changed too.....ya a rappy will go 100...with nitrous oxide maybe

Ryan
10-19-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by MrTrendy1
I wouldn't say the worlds fastest, but as I recall, many of these bikes vary in speed. One can be top of 65 and one could top 70. You throw in factors of downhill, size of rider, straightness of the road, and etc and you'll really see how fast it will go.

Even with a the size of the rider, that goes for accel, not to speed. Once your in 5th gear, bouncing off the rev limiter, then thats all your gonna get out of her. And straightness of a road? :huh

Scro
10-19-2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Punk'd
Here you go fellas

http://www.freewebs.com/reconrider25/atvtopspeeds.htm

im not saying your calculations are but...i thought the yami 450 was faster top end than the 450r:confused:

spud400ex
10-19-2004, 10:13 PM
this might help.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/raptor02.htm

lukester720
10-19-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by bama450r
im not saying your calculations are but...i thought the yami 450 was faster top end than the 450r:confused:

Nope.;)

Screamin440
10-19-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by spud400ex
this might help.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/raptor02.htm

Well that pretty much depressed me! 70.47mph is my absolute top speed. I think I'm going to go one tooth up in the front in order to make 1st and 2nd gear more controllable and more user friendly. It will also bring my top speed up to 75. With the over abundance of torque I have, I shouldn't feel the impact in my bottom end too much.

What do you guys think?

spud400ex
10-19-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Screamin440
Well that pretty much depressed me! 70.47mph is my absolute top speed. I think I'm going to go one tooth up in the front in order to make 1st and 2nd gear more controllable and more user friendly. It will also bring my top speed up to 75. With the over abundance of torque I have, I shouldn't feel the impact in my bottom end too much.

What do you guys think?

change the rpm that might change the top speed.

lukester720
10-19-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Ryan
Even with a the size of the rider, that goes for accel, not to speed. Once your in 5th gear, bouncing off the rev limiter, then thats all your gonna get out of her. And straightness of a road? :huh

Ah, but if the rider is too big the quad may not have enough power in 5th to hit the rev limiter. :rolleyes:

kamikaze_rzrbak
10-19-2004, 10:44 PM
i think you guys set the record for rolleyes:rolleyes: :p

Screamin440
10-19-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by spud400ex
change the rpm that might change the top speed.

What is the rev limiter set at on a GT Thunder rev box?

sharkinthepool
10-20-2004, 05:30 AM
What do you want it set at?

Laz has a series of boxes that can be purchased. The stubburness of the 440 it usually takes a box like his to start it in the winter or a stock one. his combine the high rev and the low rev box into one. If I remember my cousins was set at 11,500

MrTrendy1
10-20-2004, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Ryan
And straightness of a road? :huh

You can't get a top speed on a windy road.

Ryan
10-20-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by MrTrendy1
You can't get a top speed on a windy road.

Yeah, but were talking about top speeds, not trying to catch to a top speed.


Lukester, I can see that being an issue, only if there is a huge difference in weight. Otherwise, the 400ex has enough power to carry a 300 pound person easily to the rev limiter.

Bobbs07
10-20-2004, 03:41 PM
Who gives a **** about top speed. Im cool im doing almost 100 now when i crash or something blows or breaks, im promised a nice funeral. I would rather have something that has arm ripping low end then something that is boggy in the low end and wakens up in high end... :scary: and remember, you might be able to do 100mph, but by the time i have run through my gears i will be so far ahead of you it wont even matter...!!!:macho Unless you got something that runs strong til 100..