bill ballance or sparks exhaust?

[fearthis_450r]

I need some help on deciding what pipe i should get. I either want the bill ballance or the sparks, i am gonna get a slip on because i heard full exhaust takes away from bottom end. I want the pipe that will help me the most on bottom end. All opinions are appreciated. Thanks

[ohguy79]

Go to HMF's web site. They have dyno charts for their pipes. If u want bottom end u may want a full system. I think their says it makes 7hp on bottom. That's impressive. I bought a LRD just because I got a heck of a deal on ebay. I can't tell u much about it though I haven't really got to ride it. hope this helps

[WhiteZee]

sparks exausts are typically used to drag racing or in the dunes, the hmf BB is designed for woods racing, and with the TRM ( torque range modifier ) it gives you a smoother power band.

[sntheticdeluson]

im running the sparks full and i got alot better all the way through the power band man go with a full its worth the money

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

the sparks only comes in a full system if noise is an issue then you might want to get the ballace with the quiet core, I currently have the x6 on my 450r and this pipe made the bike a whole other creature gains from bottom to top.

[jeepnrocks]

what kind of deal do you guys have on a full sparks with the ceramic coated header ?

[remlapr]

Dusty - they're only making one exhaust for the R aren't they? I have it on mine(came on it) and it is crazy loud. When your in the RPM's it just wails, almost too loud for me...

[sntheticdeluson]

jeep contact sparks directly 459 for either system stainless or ceramic

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

they make the ceramic and the stainless same price, I did not realize how loud it was on my 450r untill someone else was riding it wow :eek2: I sure hope they get their quiet core done soon.

[chris450R]

sparks all the way baby! it has gains everywhere. and bottom is great! i have it on my 450R and i race mx and do some trail ridin and on the track it freakin rips!! loud= you can hear it anywhere. i personally like it loud as hell, but if loudness is an issue......get it anyway because you can't go wrong with sparks!

[BOONE450R]

yoshi all the way

[Bad Ass TA WS6]

Originally posted by BOONE450R
yoshi all the way

Nice quality pipe.

I'd go with:
#1 - Sparks
#2 - HMF
#3 - Rossier

But that's my oppinion..

[Jersey450R]

you cant go wrong with HMF. its the cheapest and one of the best pipes out there. (and it looks cool too!)

[jeepnrocks]

the dyno numbers on the ballance series are indeed elusive though. they avoid the question in every thread i have seen and you cant read the dyno on their site. i really wanted this pipe but am just not sure now :(

[Jersey450R]

i know what you mean by how you cant read the dyno. and who even knows if the dyno is true. i'm not knocking HMF but the performance series is a better overall all-around pipe than the ballance series.

[parkers30]

Originally posted by Silverfox@C&DRacing
they make the ceramic and the stainless same price, I did not realize how loud it was on my 450r untill someone else was riding it wow :eek2: I sure hope they get their quiet core done soon.

any idea if thenew quiet core is going to fit the older pipes (ie 400ex x-4) other wise I think I am going to make my own

[300ex mxer]

Hey id go with the sparks i have it, since u have a 13 tooth sprocket u mine as well put the 14 tooth back on because it will have the same power as the stock with 13 tooth.