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PHAT400
09-13-2004, 11:12 AM
My son and i were at the IRL race @ Chicagoland yesterday and SONY had the PLAYSTATION display truck there with all the new game's. (there was a quad game, could'nt get near it, don't know what it was..)

GT4 is bad ***...... Very realistic (compaired to GT3). Drove the Gran Touring BMW @ Nürburgring and man was that a riot... Can't wait for it to come out...


What a blast..

RL400
09-13-2004, 11:37 AM
holy crap man. GT4? NICE!

The quad game was probably ATV OffRoad Fury 3. It has the new '05 TRX400EX and the 450R in it! I cant wait. This is a must get, along with GT4, atleast for me. -> http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/670/670856/imgs_1.html?fromint=1

I've already preordered GT4.:rolleyes:

PHAT400
09-13-2004, 11:41 AM
I'm just hoping that my Logictech Steering wheel and pedals work's with it....

310Rduner
09-13-2004, 01:50 PM
Lucky *******!! How was the car detailing and such compared to 3?

PHAT400
09-13-2004, 02:28 PM
As much as I was rushed to play and step aside .... it looked EXTREMELY realistic......

TheFontMaster
09-13-2004, 02:34 PM
I got GT4 on pre order too. And it was paid for 2 months ago:o

I can't wait for it to come out. I wanna get that one stering wheel that turns like 2 1/2 rotations instead of just 90 degrees ether way.

MOFO
09-13-2004, 02:48 PM
you lucky SOB!!! :mad:


LOL, I cant wait to play that game. GT is the reason I bought my PS2 in the first place!

Anyone have good links on the game? Will it have a progressive scan option for the video? Will they finally include the software decoding of DTS surround sound? I hope so!

310Rduner
09-13-2004, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by MOFO
you lucky SOB!!! :mad:


LOL, I cant wait to play that game. GT is the reason I bought my PS2 in the first place!

Anyone have good links on the game? Will it have a progressive scan option for the video? Will they finally include the software decoding of DTS surround sound? I hope so!

I know where you can see pictures of almost all the cars in the game:o

MOFO
09-13-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by 310Rduner
I know where you can see pictures of almost all the cars in the game:o


I'd enjoy that....I have seen tons of screen shots... I'm just looking for the backbone specs. Audio options, if it has the progressive scan option.... I'll have a 46" HLP 4663 HDTV by X-mas and was hoping it would have those options.

Guy400
09-13-2004, 03:24 PM
Three words: Xbox-Halo 2


:cool: :macho

crday98
09-13-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by 310Rduner
I know where you can see pictures of almost all the cars in the game:o where?there are talks of the trans am ws6 being in the game but i never found any official pics:mad:

MOFO
09-13-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
Three words: Xbox-Halo 2


:cool: :macho

I know, I know... my brother has an X-box... when I get that TV, I'll have to borrow his X-box...they have a great platform for HDTV and surround sound. DD decoder built in.

310Rduner
09-13-2004, 03:32 PM
They updated the list to include ferrari and porsche..and Mclaren!!

Cars in black have been seen in screenshots and therefore are assumed to be in GT4
Cars in red have been seen being photographed and tested by Sony/Polyphony Digital and may or may not be in GT4
Cars in green have been mentioned by magazines or in interviews as being in the game, yet have not been seen. Also may not be in GT4
Cars marked with an asterik (*) are from GT4: Prologue. These cars may not make it into the final version of GT4.

In parenthesis is the number of cars in each of the three color categories for that manufacturer. A complete total is at the bottom.


AC (0 - 1 - 0)
Cobra

ACURA (2 - 0 - 0)
CL 3.2 Type-S ('00)
Integra Type-R ('01)

ALFA ROMEO (6 - 2 - 0)
147 GTA ('02)
155 V6 TI (DTM '93)
156 2.5 V6 24V ('99)
156 GTA
156 Sport Wagon 2.5 V6 24V
GTV 3.0 V6 24V ('01)
Guilia Sprint GTA 1600 ('65)
Spyder

ALPINE (1 - 0 - 0)
(Renault) A110 1600S ('73)

AMUSE (1 - 1 - 0)
350Z
S2000

ARIEL (0 - 1 - 0)
Atom

ASL (2 - 0 - 0)
Garaiya ('02)
Garaiya (ARTA JGTC '03)

AST0N MARTIN (1 - 3 - 0)
DB7 GT
Vanquish ('00)
V8 Vantage V600

AUDI (7 - 0 - 1)
(Abt) TT-R (Sony DTM '02)
A2 1.4 ('02)
A3 3.2 Quattro ('03)
A6 S-Line Quattro 2.7T
RS6 Sedan ('02)
RS6 Avant
S3 ('02)
TT 1.8T Quattro ('00)

AUSTIN-HEALEY (0 - 1 - 0)
3000

AUTOBIANCHI (1 - 0 - 0)
A112 Abarth ('79)

BENTLEY (0 - 2 - 1)
Continental (older car)
Continental GT
Continental T

BMW (8 - 5 - 0)
118d
118i
120d ('04)
120i ('04)
320i (ETCC '03)
Concept M5 ('04)
M3 (E36)
M3 SMG-II
M3 GTR Race Car ('01)
M5
X5 4.6iS
V12 LMR (LeMans '99)
Z4 3.0i

BRISTOL (0 - 0 - 2)
402
Blenheim

BUICK (0 - 0 - 1)
Special (60s, custom tuned)

CADILLAC (1 - 0 - 1)
Cien Concept ('02)
CTS

CATERHAM (0 - 1 - 0)
Fireblade

CHAPARRAL (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

CHEVROLET (10 - 0 - 0)
Camaro Z28 302
Camaro Z28 ('97)
Camaro SS ('00)
Chevelle SS 454 ('70)
Corvette Convertible ('54)
Corvette Grand Sport ('96)
Corvette Stingray L46 350 ('68)
Corvette Z06
Corvette C5-R ('00)
SSR ('03)

CHRYSLER (2 - 0 - 0)
Crossfire ('03)
Prowler

CITROËN (1 - 3 - 1)
BX GTi
C5 V6 Exclusive ('03)
CX
GX
Saxo Super 1600

DAIHATSU (5 - 1 - 0)
Copen Active Top* ('02)
Midget II D-Type ('98)
Mira TR-XX Avanzato-R* ('97)
Move CX 2WD ('95)
Naked
Storia X4 ('98)

DAIMLER (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

DODGE (4 - 3 - 1)
Challenger R/T
Tomahawk Concept
SRT-4 ('03)
Super Bee
Viper GTS* ('98)
Viper GTS-R Team Oreca
Viper GTSR Concept ('00)
Viper SRT-10
IF YOU ARE READING THIS MESSAGE, THIS LIST WAS COPIED AND PASTED WITHOUT MY PERMISSION -The359
DOME (1 - 0 - 0)
Zero Concept ('78)

DONKERVOORT (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

FERRARI (0 - 3 - 0)
348
355
360 Modena

FIAT (5 - 0 - 0)
500F ('65)
Barchetta Giovane Due ('00)
Coupe Turbo Plus ('00)
Panda 1000S ('90)
Punto HGT Abarth ('00)

310Rduner
09-13-2004, 03:33 PM
FORD (11 - 8 - 4)
(Boss) Mustang 429
Escort Cosworth
Escort RS Turbo
Escort Rally Car ('96)
Falcon FPV GT
Falcon FPV F6 Typhoon
Falcon XR8 (FPR V8 Supercar)
Fiesta RS Turbo
Focus ST170
Focus Rally Car* ('99)
Focus RS
GT Concept* ('02)
GT ('05)
GT LM Edition
GT40 Race Car ('69)
Ka
Model T
Mustang SVT Cobra-R ('00)
RS200
Sierra Cosworth
Taurus SHO ('91)
Taurus SHO ('95)
Taurus SHO ('98)

GINETTA (2 - 4 - 0)
G4 ('61)
G12
G15
G20
G21
G33

GUI GUI MURAO (0 - 1 - 0)
RX-7

HONDA (34 - 9 - 2)
(Ballade Sport) CRX 1.5i ('83)
1300 Coupe 9S
Accord Aerodeck 2.0 Si
Accord 2.0 Si
Accord SiR
Accord Wagon SiR
Accord Coupe (US) ('88)
Accord Coupe LX V6 6-speed
Beat Version F* ('91)
Civic 1600S
Civic SiR
Civic SiR-II ('91)
Civic Type-R* ('98)
Civic Type-R ('01)
City Turbo-II ('83)
CRX SiR ('90)
CRX del Sol SiR ('92)
DualNote Concept ('01)
Fit W* ('01)
HSC Concept* ('03)
Insight ('99)
Integra Type-R (2-door)* ('98)
Integra Type-R (4-door)
Integra Type-R ('01)
Integra Type-R LM Edition
Jazz Turbo
N360 ('67)
NSX Type-R ('92)
NSX Type-S Zero* ('97)
NSX (2nd gen)
NSX (Takata Dome JGTC '03)*
NSX-R ('02)
NSX-R LM Edition Race Car
Odyssey L-Type* ('03)
Prelude XX
Prelude 2.0 Si
Prelude Si VTEC ('91)
Prelude Type-S ('96)
S800
S2000
S2000 Type-V
S2000 ('03)*
T360
Today
Z Act ('70)

HYUNDAI (3 - 0 - 0)
Clix Concept
Coupe
HCD6 Concept

INFINITI (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

ISUZU (2 - 1 - 0)
117 Coupe ('68)
Bellett GT
Piazza

JAGUAR (3 - 1 - 3)
E-Type
S-Type R
XJ220 Race Car ('92)
XJ6
XJR
XKR Coupe
X-Type 3.0 V6 SE

JEEP (0 - 2 - 0)
Liberty Sport
Wrangler Sport

JENSEN (0 - 1 - 2)
541R
Interceptor
S-V8

LANCIA (3 - 0 - 0)
Delta S4 Rally Car ('85)
Delta Intergrale HF Rally Car* ('92)
Stratos Rally Car ('77)

LAND ROVER (0 - 2 - 1)
Discovery HSE
Range Rover Vogue
Range Stormer Concept

LEADlNG EDGE (0 - 1 - 0)
RT240

LISTER (1 - 0 - 0)
Storm V12 Race Car

LOTUS (6 - 1 - 0)
340R
Elise Sport 190* ('98)
Elise ('00)
Esprit Turbo HC ('87)
Esprit Sport 350 ('00)
Europa Special ('71)
Motorsport Elise ('99)

MARCOS (0 - 4 - 0)
LM600
Mantaray
Mantis
T250

MAZDA (14 - 0 - 1)
787B (LeMans '91)
Atenza ('01)
Atenza Sport Wagon
Carol 360 Deluxe ('62)
Cosmo Sport ('68)
Demio Sport* ('03)
Eunos Roadster 1.6* ('89)
Eunos Roadster RS ('00)
Familia
Kusabi Concept* ('03)
RX-7 Savanna GT-X ('90)
RX-7 Spirit-R Type-A* ('02)
RX-7 Type-R Bathurst-R
RX-8 Type-S* ('03)
RX-8 LM Edition

McLAREN (1 - 0 - 0)
F1 GTR Long Tail (Fina LeMans '97)*

MERCEDES-BENZ (7 - 3 - 1)
(Sauber) C9 (LeMans '89)
190E 2.5 16V Evolution II (DTM '92)
300SL Coupe ('54)
C32 AMG
CL600
CLK-DTM (D2 DTM '00)
CLK-GTR Race Car ('98)
E500 Avant
E55 AMG
SL500
SL55 AMG* ('02)

MG (1 - 1 - 1)
Maestro Turbo
Metro 6R4
MGF

MINE'S (2 - 2 - 0)
350Z
Lancer Evolution VI GSR
Lancer Evolution VIII
Skyline GT-R N1 V-Spec (R34) ('00)

MINI (3 - 0 - 0)
Cooper 1.3i ('98)
Cooper
Cooper S ('02)

MITSUBISHI (22 - 4 - 1)
Airtrek Turbo-R
Colt (90s)
Colt 1.5 Sport-X Version* ('02)
Colt Galant GTO (70s)
Eclipse GT ('95)
Eclipse Spyder GTS ('03)
eK Wagon
FTO GP Version-R ('97)
FTO LM Edition
Galant VR-4
Galant FTO 1600 (70s)
GTO Twin Turbo ('95)
HSR-II Concept
i Concept* ('03)
Lancer 1600GSR ('74)
Lancer Evolution GSR ('92)
Lancer Evolution IV GSR ('96)
Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car* ('97)
Lancer Evolution V GSR* ('98)
Lancer Evolution VI GSR ('99)
Lancer Evolution VII GSR ('01)
Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car
Lancer Evolution VIII MR* ('03)
Lancer Evolution VIII GSR* ('03)
Legnum VR-4 Type-V ('98)
Mirage Cyborg ZR ('97)
Starion 4WD Rally Car

MORGAN (0 - 3 - 0)
4/4
Aero-8
Aero-8R Race Car

MORRIS (0 - 0 - 1)
Minor

NISMO (4 - 5 - 1)
270R
400R (R33) ('96)
Fairlady Z Gran Turismo Aero ('02)
Fairlady Z Z-Tune* ('03)
March S-Tune
March Cup Car
Skyline S-Tune (V35)
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R32) ('90)
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R33)
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R34)
IF YOU ARE READING THIS MESSAGE, THIS LIST WAS COPIED AND PASTED WITHOUT MY PERMISSION -The359
NISSAN (42 - 2 - 11)
180SX Type-X ('96)
240RS Rally Car ('85)
Be-1
Bluebird 1600 Deluxe ('69)
Bluebird 1600SSS Rally Car ('69)
Bluebird SSS-R (80s)
Cedric 300LV VIP
Cima (80s)
Cube X ('98)
Cube EX CVT
Fairlady 240ZG* ('71)
Fairlady Z 432R
Fairlady ZT (280ZT)
Fairlady ZX (300ZX)
Fairlady Z Version S 6MT ('02)
Fairlady Z Roadster ('02)*
Fairlady Z LM Edition
GT-R Concept
GT-R LM Edition
March 12C 5-door* ('03)
March 14S
March Super Turbo
Primera 2.0Te
Primera 20V ('01)
Pulsar EXA Canopy LA Version Type-S ('88)
Pulsar EXA2
Pulsar GTi-R
R390 GT1 Race Car ('98)
R89C ('89)
R90CP
Sileighty
Silvia 1800Qs (S13)
Silvia 2000Ks (S13) ('91)
Silvia K's Aero (S14)* ('96)
Silvia K's Aero (S15)
Silvia (S15) (C-West JGTC 2003)
Skyline 350GT-8 (Sedan)
Skyline Coupe 350GT* ('03)
Skyline 2000 GT-R (mid-70s)
Skyline 2000 GT-R Hardtop Coupe (early-70s)
Skyline 2000 GT-R Sedan (60s)
Skyline 2000 RS-X Type-C (R30)
Skyline 2000 Turbo-RS (R30)
Skyline GTS-R (R31)
Skyline GTS-t Type-M (R32) ('91)
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R32)* ('94)
Skyline GT-R (R33)
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R34)
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (R34)* ('02)
Skyline GT-R (Gran Turismo Version - R34)
Skyline GT-R (Xanavi Nismo JGTC '03)*
Skyline GT-R (Falken 'Ring 24H)
Sunny (60s)
Wingroad X Aero
Z Concept

NOBLE (0 - 1 - 0)
M12 GTO3

OPEL (6 - 1 - 0)
Astra CD
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix DTM '00)
Calibra Touring Car (DTM '94)
Corsa Comfort 1.4 16V ('01)
Speedster Turbo
Tigra 1.6i ('99)
Vectra 3.2 V6 ('03)

310Rduner
09-13-2004, 03:35 PM
OPERA (0 - 1 - 0)
S2000

ORCA (0 - 0 - 1)
C113

PAGANI (2 - 0 - 0)
Zonda C12S 7.3 ('02)
Zonda Race Car

PANOZ (1 - 0 - 0)
Esperante GTR-1 ('98)

PESCAROLO (2 - 0 - 0)
C60-Peugeot (LeMans '03)
C60-Judd (LeMans '04)

PEUGEOT (5 - 5 - 0)
106 S16 ('03)
205 T16 Evolution II Rally Car ('86)
206 CC ('01)
206 SW S16 5-door
206 S16 Limited 3-door
206 Rally Car ('99)
307 XSi 3-door
307 XS 5-door
307 Wagon SW
406 3.0 V6 Coupe ('98)

PLYMOUTH (1 - 0 - 0)
`Cuda 440 Six Pack ('71)

PONTIAC (4 - 0 - 0)
GTO ('64)
Solstice Concept
Sunfire GXP Concept ('02)
Vibe GT ('02)

PORSCHE (0 - 7 - 0)
911 (964)
911 (993)
911 Carrera (996)
911 GT3 (996)
911 GT3 Cup (996)
911 Turbo (996)
Boxster S

PROTO (1 - 0 - 0)
Spirra

RADICAL (0 - 1 - 0)
SR-3

RE AMEMIYA (0 - 1 - 0)
RX-7

RENAULT (6 - 1 - 0)
Avantime ('02)
Clio
Clio Sport V6 24V ('00)
Clio Sport Race Car ('00)
R5 Turbo ('80)
R5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car ('85)
Spyder

ROVER (0 - 1 - 0)
75

RUF (4 - 1 - 0)
3400S ('00)
BTR
CTR2 ('96)
R-GT ('00)
R-Turbo

SAAB (0 - 0 - 2)
9-3 Aero 2.0T
9-5 Arc 3.0T

SALEEN (1 - 0 - 0)
S7 ('02)

SEAT (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

SHELBY (1 - 0 - 0)
Cobra 427 ('67)

SMART (0 - 1 - 2)
City
Coupe
Roadster

SPOON (3 - 1 - 0)
Civic Type-R* ('99)
Fit Race Car* ('02)
S2000
S2000 Race Car* ('00)

SUBARU (16 - 0 - 1)
Impreza WRX STi Sedan (Version V) ('94)
Impreza WRX STi Type-R (Version VI) ('99)
Impreza WRX STi Sedan (Version VI)* ('99)
Impreza WRX STi Wagon (Version VI) ('99)
Impreza WRX STi Rally Car (Version VI)* ('99)
Impreza WRX Wagon (Version VIII)
Impreza WRX STi (Version VIII)* ('02)
Impreza WRX STi Rally Car (Version VIII)* ('03)
Impreza WRX STi (Cusco Advan JGTC '03)*
Legacy B4 2.0GT ('03)
Legacy B4 2.0GT Spec-B* ('03)
Legacy B4 3.0R* ('03)
Legacy B4 Blitzen ('00)
Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B ('96)
Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT ('03)
Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT Spec-B* ('03)
Legacy Touring Wagon B4 3.0R* ('03)

SUZUKI (5 - 1 - 0)
Alto Works Sport Limited* ('97)
Cappuccino* ('92)
Concept-S2* ('03)
Escudo (Pikes Peak Version) ('98)
Grand Escudo
Kei Works ('02)

TECHNO PRO SPIRITS (0 - 1 - 0)
Sprinter Trueno

TOMMY KAIRA (2 - 0 - 0)
ZZ-S
ZZII

TOYOTA (36 - 2 - 1)
(Trial) Celica SS-II Tuning Car ('03)
Altezza
Aristo 3.0V
Aristo V300 ('00)
bB 1.5Z X Version* ('00)
Carina ED 2.0 X 4WS ('89)
Celica 1600GT ('70)
Celica GT-Four RC ('91)
Celica GT-Four Rally Car ('94)
Celice GT-Four ('98)
Celica GT-Four Rally Car* ('95)
Celica XX 2800GT ('81)
Corolla Levin 1600GT Apex ('83)
Corolla Rally Car ('99)
GT-One Race Car ('99)
Harrier L Edition
ist 1.5S 2WD* ('02)
MR2 1600 G-Limited Super Charger ('86)
MR2 GT-S* ('97)
MR-S S Edition
MR-S (Autobacs JGTC 2003)
Motor Triathlon Race Car* ('03)
pod Concept
Prius (Previous Model)
Prius G Touring* ('03)
Probox Wagon F Extra Package
Sera ('92)
Soarer 430SCV ('01)
Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex Tuning Car
Supra RZ ('97)
Supra 2.5 Twin Turbo (80s)
Supra 2.5 Twin Turbo-R ('90)
Supra 3.0 GT (80s)
Supra (Tom's Castrol JGTC '01)
Supra (Esso Ultraflo JGTC '01)
Supra (au Cerumo JGTC '02)
Supra (Tom's WoodOne JGTC '03)*
Vitz Turbo 5-door
Vitz RS 1.5* ('00)

TRIUMPH (0 - 1 - 0)
TR2

TVR (4 - 5 - 1)
Cerbera Speed Six ('97)
Cerbera Speed 12 ('00)
Griffith 500
450 SEAC
T350C ('03)
T440R
Tamora
Tuscan Speed Six ('00)
Vixen
V8S

VOLKSWAGEN (10 - 6 - 3)
Beetle 1100 Standard ('49)
Beetle (50s)
Beetle 1300 (60s)
Bora V6 4MOTION ('01)
Golf GTi (70s)
Golf IV R32 ('03)
Karmann Ghia 1500 ('68)
Karmann Ghia Cabriolet
Lupo GTi
Lupo GTi Cup Car* ('03)
New Beetle Cabriolet
New Beetle RSi
New Beetle Turbo
Passat V6 4MOTION
Passat W8
Passat Wagon
Polo TDi
Scirocco (80s)
W12 Concept ('01)

VOLVO (0 - 4 - 1)
S40
S60 T-5
V40
V70 T-5
XC70 2.5T

WESTFIELD (0 - 1 - 0)
SEiGHT

UPDATES:
12/6: Added markings for GT4: Prologue cars.
12/7: Added Subaru Impreza WRX STi (Cusco Advan JGTC 2003)
12/17: Added Seat as a manufacturer
12/20: Added BMW M5 and Ruf Turbo-R
12/22: Added Radical SR-3
12/24: Amuse S2000 confirmed
12/29: Added Ford Taurus SHO, Mazda Familia, Mitsubisi Eclipse, and Nissan Primera and Nissan Skyline (R30)
1/22: Added Nissan Sileighty, Fiat Panda, and Daihatsu Move.
2/4: Added Mitsubishi Starion and Nissan Cube
3/7: Added BMW Concept M5
3/10: Added Ford (Boss) Mustang 429
3/20: Added Chaparalle as a manufacturer and the Ford Model T and Ruf CTR2.
4/11: Added more cars from testing sessions
4/27: Added 2004 Courage C60 (Team Pescarolo)
5/3: Added Proto Motors Spirra
5/13: Added all selectable cars from E3, currently restructuring list
6/2: Added Ferrari and Porsche
6/12: Added Falken Nissan Skyline GT-R from the Nurburgring 24 Hours.

This isn't a flaky list, so most of it should be correct. I'm really anxious to see if mclaren, ferrari, and porsche are really in it. Before gt could never acquire licenses for those company's, this could be why they waited so long to release it.

310Rduner
09-13-2004, 03:42 PM
The cars that have screen shots have been posted, these are almost 100%confirmed to be in the game. The real pictures of cars are for ones without screen shots.

DIAL UP BEWARE!!!!!

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/site.neo/indexa.htm

acold7dusta
09-13-2004, 04:06 PM
thats a ton of cars! i cant wait! thats gonna be sweet with the challengers and cudas and jeeps...i hope gt4s gonna have much more realistic handling and acceleration

Nausty
09-13-2004, 07:42 PM
gta san andreas anyone? Comes out in october and I can't friggen wait.

Metal Gear solid 3 should be coming out pretty soon too!

PHAT400
09-14-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by 310Rduner
The cars that have screen shots have been posted, these are almost 100%confirmed to be in the game. The real pictures of cars are for ones without screen shots.

DIAL UP BEWARE!!!!!

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/site.neo/indexa.htm

DAYYUUUMMMMM!!!!

99'ex
09-14-2004, 05:22 PM
when is gt4 coming out into stores. i also heard a possibility about a midnight club 3 DUB edition

muddy400EX
09-14-2004, 06:40 PM
i watched a video of atv3 and it looks REALLY dumb. the quads look fake, sound fake and the tracks are still made the same way they were before. the tracks arent very realistic.:(