450R vs. C5 Corvette. What do you think?

[ssrogers]

I have a good friend (chris450R) that has a 450R and he wants to race me when ever I get my C5 Corvette. That will be a year or two from now and he has a list of things he plans on doing listed on the link below and I don't plan on much other than full K&N kit and Corsa exhaust with a 6 speed.

We plan on racing on an 1/8 mile track so I don't win just because of top-end speed. At first I thought it would be an easy kill, but its looking more and more like it might be a good race.

If you want the complete explaination go to this thread and look near the bottom of page 1 where I say "Dang, I didn't know those things were that fast." Start there or you will be lost.

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122108


So, What do you think?


Steven

[chris450R]

i'll tell you what i think. i think that with the motor mods i will have done and a little gearing change that i will have no problem stomping the corvette in an 1/8 mile strip! might have to go ahead and go to a 1/4 mile strip and see what happens. i think that 1/4 mile might be even better of a race, but the 450R will still probably pull away with the win!HAHAHA!!!

[Martin Blair]

I think in a 1/8th mile it would take a pretty built car to beat a stock 450r, A stock 450r will accelerate alot faster then most cars think of power to wieght ratios

they are both about striahg up stock 450r and stock corvette c5 they both have about 12lbs to one hp with a 160-180lb rider

and they both have about 15lbs to 1ftbls of torque.

I would think the 450r would win if you can keep it from wheeling, and with a good pipe and filter, if it doesnt win it will be close.

[chris450R]

yeah right now i have a full sparks exhaust and jet kit, 18's on rear, and a 13t front sprocket. all this for mx, but when we race i will change the 13t to 15t for top end. and also soon i will be getting a '03 crf fcr 40mm carb. but i plan to have a 12:1 piston, and sparks mid-high cam, and race gas, all by the time he gets the C5. so i would say i shouldn't have much of a porblem with acceleration or top end for the strip.

[310Rduner]

Who gives a sh*t? The loser will be whoever spends the most money trying to beat the other. There's your answer. Right now chris450 is in the lead.

[ssrogers]

What are you talking about? Chris races his 450R all the time in MX races and that is why he is upgrading all the time.

And me, I have wanted a Corvette for years. In fact thats just about all I ever talk about.

I can't believe you think we are actually just doing all this for one race. I just one day said, "When I get my Corvette, we have to race". The 1/8 mile was his idea.

Gah, Lighten up man.

Steven

[310Rduner]

Originally posted by ssrogers
What are you talking about? Chris races his 450R all the time in MX races and that is why he is upgrading all the time.

And me, I have wanted a Corvette for years. In fact thats just about all I ever talk about.

I can't believe you think we are actually just doing all this for one race. I just one day said, "When I get my Corvette, we have to race". The 1/8 mile was his idea.

Gah, Lighten up man.

Steven

Ahh, but perhaps it is you who is over reacting to a faux criticism? Perhaps I am razzing you for being a nooblet to the site? Perhaps the moon is made of cheese and Barney is the anti-christ?

[allmixedup047]

hey SS dont mind him! i ran my 450r bone stock in the 1/8 and i ran a 9.8. but then i got in trouble by the track for riding a wheelie half way down the track. i didnt mean to but that was the fastest way to get to the end of the 1/8mile mark, instead of letting off to get it back down i just leaned foward and kept in the gas.i was only hitting like 66mph so i wasnt topped out. your problem is going to be hooking up with the vette.

[Wayne64SS]

ummmm the vette is gonna smoke your *** meatball. The Vette runs mid 12s bone stock in th 1/4 mile! now theoretically an 1/8 mile is half of a quarter mile so the vette would get down the 1/8 in approx 6 to 6 1/2 seconds.

[Pappy]

actually a mid 12 second run on a stock vette would net a 1/8 mile time of roughly 8 to 8.5 seconds.

id say with a set of street slicks and a knowledgable driver the vette will win.

Originally posted by 310Rduner
Who gives a sh*t? The loser will be whoever spends the most money trying to beat the other. There's your answer. Right now chris450 is in the lead. thats funny

[bcurry940]

I think I would have to put my money on the 450r.....For one reason. acceleration. Of course the vette is gonna have a higher top speed but if the 450r can get off the line faster and build a good enough lead then he should have enough to hold em off at the finish. Besides, I have yet to come across a bone stock vette that will run 12s.....

[Scro]

Originally posted by allmixedup047
hey SS dont mind him! i ran my 450r bone stock in the 1/8 and i ran a 9.8. but then i got in trouble by the track for riding a wheelie half way down the track. i didnt mean to but that was the fastest way to get to the end of the 1/8mile mark, instead of letting off to get it back down i just leaned foward and kept in the gas.i was only hitting like 66mph so i wasnt topped out. your problem is going to be hooking up with the vette.

that wasnt a very good run man...mine bone stock ran a 9.2...added a pipe, took airbox lid off, and tinkered with the jets and it got down to 8.9...i konw of a couple stock 400 ex's around here that are running close to 9.9

[ssrogers]

No way an almost stock Corvette is going to get a 6 second 1/8th mile. Sorry, but you can't just devide the 1/4 by two.

A pro drag racer once told me the difference between the 1/4 and the 1/8 is about 1.44 assuming you don't top out.

like a 9 second 1/8 would be about 12.96 or 13s in the 1/4
and that works backwords too

1/8 x 1.44 = 1/4
1/4 / 1.44 = 1/8

So, with that. A Corvette with a few things done to it should run 13s or high 12s or about 9 seconds in the 1/8.

[Wayne64SS]

GUESS I JUST GOT EDUCATED HUH??!?!?

[ssrogers]

Originally posted by Wayne64SS
GUESS I JUST GOT EDUCATED HUH??!?!?

Hey, don't get mad. I'm just trying to help you. When you see 800hp monsters do 4s and 5s on an 1/8 you will understand why a stock Corvette would never do that.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by ssrogers
Hey, don't get mad. I'm just trying to help you. When you see 800hp monsters do 4s and 5s on an 1/8 you will understand why a stock Corvette would never do that.

it takes more then 800 hp to run 4's or 5's in anything above a 2100 pound car in the 1/4.

[chris450R]

pappy we are talkin about an 1/8 mile 4-5 second run.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by chris450R
pappy we are talkin about an 1/8 mile 4-5 second run.

i hate 1/8 mile...its for people that dont have the cash to do it all the way:devil: :blah:

[ssrogers]

Well, now that I think about it. 800hp would probably get you a 6 or 7 in the 1/8th.

But, Pappy, you are right. In the 1/4 it takes at least 4,000hp to get a 4 or 5.

[chris450R]

yeah yeah pappy. i know what you mean. but where we live there aren't any 1/4 mile tracks close by that we could go to race at. but there is an 1/8 that is like a 20 min drive so that is why we are doin an 1/8 mile. but we are talk about a corvette that will run around 180 top speed and a 450R that will run around 80 top speed. now i think a 1/4 may just give the corvette the distance and speed advantage. 1/8 mile will make more about acceleration for the most part. my 450R may top out at an 1/8 mile but still will a close race no matter.

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by ssrogers
No way an almost stock Corvette is going to get a 6 second 1/8th mile. Sorry, but you can't just devide the 1/4 by two.

A pro drag racer once told me the difference between the 1/4 and the 1/8 is about 1.44 assuming you don't top out.

like a 9 second 1/8 would be about 12.96 or 13s in the 1/4
and that works backwords too

1/8 x 1.44 = 1/4
1/4 / 1.44 = 1/8

So, with that. A Corvette with a few things done to it should run 13s or high 12s or about 9 seconds in the 1/8.

my stock V8 S10 ran 7.99 in the 1/8 so thats like 11.50 in the 1/4 that what we bilt it to run but have not made it to the 1/4 mile yet this year! (ya slow I know, but it runs on pump gas)
I took my 450r up to the 1/8 mile track and they would not let me run it!!!!!

but the math sounds about right!

[chris450R]

they really wouldn't let you run? dang that sucks. on friday nights at our 1/8 mile track they have a test and tune where anything can come and run.

[Wayne64SS]

Originally posted by ssrogers
Hey, don't get mad. I'm just trying to help you. When you see 800hp monsters do 4s and 5s on an 1/8 you will understand why a stock Corvette would never do that.

lol nah man i aint mad just more or less makin fun of myself.

[WhiteZee]

Originally posted by Wayne64SS
ummmm the vette is gonna smoke your *** meatball. The Vette runs mid 12s bone stock in th 1/4 mile! now theoretically an 1/8 mile is half of a quarter mile so the vette would get down the 1/8 in approx 6 to 6 1/2 seconds.
i can not believe you just posted that, you are now banned from ever talking about cars and drag racing.

[allmixedup047]

i can not believe you just posted that, you are now banned from ever talking about cars and drag racing.
lmfao!your first 1/8th will be slower than your second 1/8th because your allready up to speed on your second half of the drag. lets say you hit around 70mph in the first 1/8th, your average speed is going to be somewhere around 35mph. in the second half you start at 70 and work your way up to around 100mph, your average speed is around 85mph. im not saying that this is the right calculations because a car will get from 0-35 faster than it will 35-70, but the theory just says your first 1/8th will be slower than the second. ;)

[Wayne64SS]

Originally posted by WhiteZee
i can not believe you just posted that, you are now banned from ever talking about cars and drag racing.

lol it feels like a monday im a little dazed today ahahahah im not into racing 1/4 mile that much and ive never raced 1/4 mile i just kinda went with the most logical ... i always street raced never at a track ... suppose i oughta go to the track. LoL I feel like a moron

[TheFontMaster]

The new C6 runs the quarter mile in 12.7 seconds at 113 MPH, acording to car and driver. No way is a 450R going to come anywheres near beating a corvette in the 1/4 mile.

More stats.
Zero to 30- 1.8 seconds
40- 2.5
50- 3.3
60- 4.3
70- 5.4
80- 6.8
90- 8.2
100- 9.9
150- 26.3

And it's top speed is around 186 MPH.
I would think that the 1/8th mile would be a close one, if the 450 can get off the line good and not wheelie. But the 450 WILL get its *** handed to it in the 1/4 mile.