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FTR250Rnif
09-05-2004, 11:21 AM
How do you think these two bikes compare, in handling, jumping or just plain riding? im talking bone stock right off of the showroom floor. in my opinion I would take a moddoed 250r anyday, but what bike would win a modern day shootout? would the 250r lose badly?
jw :p

Pappy
09-05-2004, 11:45 AM
i'd bet my money on the new stock R waxing the old stock R's ***. it isnt that the stock 250r is junk, it just doesnt have what the new R has. the new R owes its life to the 250R & 400ex....and a few piss poor politicians:grr:

jokerman_28
09-05-2004, 06:32 PM
15 years between models. of course honda is going to build somethin better.

310Rduner
09-05-2004, 07:23 PM
Stock the 450R would wax it. Still, I would enjoy the ride on a stock R more than I ever could on a 450R.

beak7707
09-17-2004, 02:04 AM
Overall yes the 450R is going to win. But I still think the 250r handles better than the 450R. I dont feel near as comfortable in the air on a 450r as I do my 250R, but then again thats just seat time. I myself would also rather have a pimped 250r than a 450 anyday.

RedRacer44
09-21-2004, 07:38 PM
Stock vs. Stock.........the 450 is better in just about every aspect in my opinion.

I had a MX modded 310 and it was a handful to ride but very fast. It handled like a dream and was very neutral in the air along with responding very well to rider input in the air. My 450R handles just as good as my 250 did except I believe my 250R was a lil' more precise in turning. As far as in the air, I had problems with the nose being up in the air at first but after some seat time, its not a factor anymore.

Overall though, I'd prefer my 450R for a few simple reasons. First off, maintence! Its a lot easier keeping a 4-stroke race quad up than a 2-stroke, heh. I also feel that I am faster on the thumper because its a lot easier to ride and i dont get tired like I did on my 310 after 5-7 laps of hard riding.

I loved my 310 but the new age thumpers are great.....I wish I coulda kept my 310 as a dune quad but the 450R needed parts so the 310 had to go!! Heh, thats very sad to say....

Chance

deathman53
09-21-2004, 08:12 PM
I think a stock 450r would beat a stock 250r, I had a fairly stock 250r and I rode my friends 450r, yes the 450r will beat it, but it would be very interesting if honda did release a 250r with a powervalve, 88/89 geometry, better shocks, that one would be a tough call, one thing for sure you would have 2 honda's from different era's closely competing for the #1 slot. I like the way the 250r sits alot better than a 450r, the 450r is way too tall, but also so are all the new quads, so honda was following the bandwagon. In my opinion the motor is what really makes the bike, it would be awesome with a-arms, 0 preload shocks, wide axle, smaller tires. I didn't like it too much in stock form,other than a curtis sparks pipe. maybe it was just me, since I was riding my 330r trike, one thing I can't get used to with quads(now) is bump steer, my trike has 0 bump steer, and riding a quad its totally different and all I feel is bump steer. just for the record, I'm building a 88r, don't plan on riding it alot, only so I can go to other places to ride. I know for sure I'll ride my trike alot more and thats why the aftermarket parts aren't coming off it.

trx250rracing
09-22-2004, 11:37 AM
i have my money on a stock 250r i was at a race and the 250r and the 450r was race and the 250r won the race

BKex
09-25-2004, 09:38 PM
I have a pretty much stock 88 250r and after riding my buddies 450 I'd have to say the new 450 would spank it depending on rider.

cuffhim
10-15-2004, 04:26 PM
We have 2 '87 250r's with 310's. My son has raced both bikes and has no problem keeping up with the YFZ or the new TRX450. Even gets the holeshot once in a while. One extra gear means a little more shifting but nothing, I mean nothing, handles like these two bikes. I love them. Sponsored by "Lonestar" and "DFR."

Plante400
10-24-2004, 10:18 PM
Id have to say it depends on the rider most off all...
no matter what it depends on the rider
someone on a 250r could beat somebody on a 450r... easy

Tom TRX250R
10-24-2004, 11:11 PM
From past experience of my 250R stock the 450R would beat it. The 250R's were fairly mellow bone stock but once you start throwing mods on the ol' 2 stroke it's a complete diff. story!!!:devil:

NacsMXer
10-25-2004, 08:22 PM
I agree, let a 250R take a 450R both with aftermarket pipes/jet kit only, and it would be a different story. Its crazy how much a pipe can wake up a 2 stroke.

XCredrider
10-26-2004, 03:32 PM
Here is the list of stuff i have on my R.
Just rebuilt from top to bottom, new internals throughout the motor.
Ported and polished
Wiseco pro-lite piston,
Cometic gaskets
Pro-Design cool head
Boyeseen rad valve
Boyeseen Reeds
FMF Gold Series Pipe
FMF Silencer
DG Nerf bars
DG Aluminum Swingarm skid
Shockwears Shock covers
Prm bumper
n-style graphics kit and gripper seat cover
razr tires all around
itp wheels all around
tires have 95% tread left
Galfer wave rotor on rear
Galfer drilled rotors on front
Alloy handle bars
XC grab bar
K&N AirFilter with Outerwares
I know you really dont know unless you line them up but do you guys think this should take the new 450's and the pred in a stright line with equal riders?:confused:

cuffhim
10-27-2004, 10:39 AM
Our 87's have the following: Works/PEP shocks, Lonestar axle w/carrier, +3+1 LSR A-Arms, LSR steering stem, Paul Turner/ESR Pipes, V-Force Reeds, 38mm Keihn, Tag Bars, Fullbore Plastics, Beadlocks w/Maxxis tires, UNI Filters, etc. Will submit photo's soon. "DFR" in Chandler AZ takes good care of us.

gagne736
11-18-2004, 01:55 PM
depends of the driver if it was a race