Let the rebuild begin

[Pappy]

man, thats service right there:o

John and Kevin happily ripping apart my R:eek:

[Pappy]

i geuss i should have told them when to stop:devil:

[Honda4trax250x]

how fast was it torn down?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Honda4trax250x
how fast was it torn down?

about 3 hours with some BS'n involved:p

[Bretmd94]

I wonder what color that frames going to be?

[TheFontMaster]

I been wondering why you been selling some parts of your 450r. This quad is going to be the deffinition of bling bling when you get done with it! :macho

[cool 300ex]

Nice man thats a fast tear down! Good luck with the make over.

[Pappy]

frame and sub will be gun metal grey (new color)

alot of small parts are soon on thier way to Distinictive Chrome, a arms and stem and swingarm will be chrome. a new full exhaust (chrome) and i havent fully figured out the plastic color. im thinking black.

should be pretty damn sweet

[UglyMotha™]

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif I did some aluminum rims in gun metal grey.....:o me likes :p

[300exOH]

Originally posted by UglyMotha™
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif I did some aluminum rims in gun metal grey.....:o me likes :p

Want to do 4 more? lol I have the ones from my Monte I was thinking about doing over the winter. Any pics of the wheels with the gunmetal?

[lol]

its gonna be awesome
:)

[Sportrax10]

Cant wait to see it when your done with it, good luck with the project...:macho

[theTman]

this is gonna be one sick arse 450r:devil:

[MY450R]

can i have it when its done pappy?
gunmetal great choice

you gonna have that POS up and runnin in time for hatfield or you gonna ride Bridgets 300ex???

[JHF219]

pappys a slave driver dont let him fool you all :devil:

j/k

it was a great and fast tear down cant wait to watch it come back togethor !!

[PismoGuy400]

so what exactly are you doin to it?

[Pappy]

rico- the 300ex will pull me around da hatfield. me and yer pops will enjoy the scenary:devil:


JHForeman- thanks for the help....mucho aprreciado


as far as what the plans are for this R-

well we are turning it into one badazz TT / Flat Track quad. so far the parts list will include:

Burgard Chrome +2 A Arms
Burgard Chrome Stem
Burgard TT -2 Chrome swing arm
LSR Chrome axle
All small parts chromed'd
Lots of powdercoat'n
Hipers all the way around (black rings)

Im trying to get my hands on some sway bars. Hopefully Rath will come thru for me and hook me up. Other then that who knows what i'll do. If i can get it done before the winter closes the races down maybe i'll dive into the engine to give the bark some bite:devil:

[hessianmx111]

Originally posted by JHForman250R
pappys a slave driver dont let him fool you all :devil:

j/k

it was a great and fast tear down cant wait to watch it come back togethor !!
hey man this may seem kinda like a weird question but its been bothering me for a while now, do you ever come down to the blackrock mx races in leitchfield kentucky? because like a month or two ago i was down there and after the races we went to mcdonalds and ate and somebody behind me in line looked awfully familiar then a couple days later i saw the thread where you ran pappys R into a tree and saw a pic of you and i could have sworn that was you there i dunno though sorry if this sounds weird/stalkerish lol but this question has been bothering me for a while now lol

[JHF219]

Originally posted by hessianmx111
hey man this may seem kinda like a weird question but its been bothering me for a while now, do you ever come down to the blackrock mx races in leitchfield kentucky? because like a month or two ago i was down there and after the races we went to mcdonalds and ate and somebody behind me in line looked awfully familiar then a couple days later i saw the thread where you ran pappys R into a tree and saw a pic of you and i could have sworn that was you there i dunno though sorry if this sounds weird/stalkerish lol but this question has been bothering me for a while now lol

Hey you shoulda said hello =) haha yeah that was me :devil:

[hessianmx111]

Originally posted by JHForman250R
Hey you shoulda said hello =) haha yeah that was me :devil:
haha if i was sure it was you i would have but id felt pretty stupid sayin hi to somebody who had no damn idea who i was lol. did you race that night?

[Pappy]

ill have to get john to go over this for me but i did all the grunt work for him:p i removed the casting line and worked it down.

[exrider360]

im getting my bike painted gun metal gray cna i gte some pics of it would look like on a quad and such

[JHF219]

Originally posted by hessianmx111
haha if i was sure it was you i would have but id felt pretty stupid sayin hi to somebody who had no damn idea who i was lol. did you race that night?

hey yeah i raced that night probably wouldnt have been a good time :( my old trusty 2 stroke motor took a **** that night =(

[JHF219]

Originally posted by Pappy
ill have to get john to go over this for me but i did all the grunt work for him:p i removed the casting line and worked it down.

Ill fix er right up !!

[PismoGuy400]

damn thats gonna be a nice quad.


and out of curiosity...what kind of shocks do people generally use for flattrack racing?

does anything special need to be done to them??

[86350x]

Wish it was mine, I'm sure it will look trick:cool:

[TCracin440ex]

so pappy ur going to try out TT as i understand.....but what about xc??

[Pappy]

XC is kind of hard for me simply because Im usually too busy shooting pictures to race. I dont do MX because of my back problems and i'm not a huge jumper so TT & Flattrack appeals to me. I just like getting into new things that offer a challenge!

[TRXMaddness]

Pappy... you are going to enjoy TT racing. I started racing with NQRA last season and my first TT race was in Ashland, VA. Talk about a blast.

[UglyMotha™]

Originally posted by 300exOH
Want to do 4 more? lol I have the ones from my Monte I was thinking about doing over the winter. Any pics of the wheels with the gunmetal?



sorry scott no pics, and the powder we used was a free sample, we don't stock it

[quadrcr161]

hey pappy, will you be guesseting the frame while its down?

[300exOH]

Originally posted by UglyMotha™
sorry scott no pics, and the powder we used was a free sample, we don't stock it

Rats! Thanks anyhow.

I'm trying to decide on a color to use. Do you stock anything close to the gunmetal?

[Pappy]

ugly i stock it if you need some do do his rims.


we wont be gusseting since this will be used for TT

[JHF219]

this gunmetal is one of the sickest(good way) colors ever !! it looks so bad ***** !! i was a big fan of it the instant i saw it !!

[UglyMotha™]

Originally posted by 300exOH
Rats! Thanks anyhow.

I'm trying to decide on a color to use. Do you stock anything close to the gunmetal?



scott, you work out a deal with pappy and get enough powder to do your rims, i'll bake em for yah http://www.exriders.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif


we really don't have any blinging colors here other than chrome, silver metallic, penny vein, and silver vein, other than that all we stock is mostly standard colors and bout 20 different blacks

[300exOH]

Originally posted by UglyMotha™
scott, you work out a deal with pappy and get enough powder to do your rims, i'll bake em for yah http://www.exriders.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif

Cool.:cool: I'll get the ball rolling soon. I'm going to need tires anyhow.

Pappy I'll send you a PM as soon as I have the extra cash to do the rims. BTW I can't wait to see your quad low and mean:bandit:

How well will the pc hold up to regular driving? The wheels were clear coated and it is already cracking after about a year so I'm hoping the PC will hold up better. Thanks for the info.

[UglyMotha™]

it should but i dunno how well of an exterior paint gun metal is perhaps kenny can fill you in there, i powdercoated all the undercarriage on my truck and it's held up to some nasty abuse so far, and i had the calipers on my car done in winchester red and 4 years later they still look like they were just done, so they have stood up to 4 winters of salt, that's what i thought would kill them but they still look like new, but then again i've seen alot of powders look like crap a year later, so it's hard to say, since your rims have a clear coat on them you'll need to take em to banks there in lagrange and have them burned off, since we work with everything new here, we don't do sand blasting or anything like that, and what we do do, we send to banks

[Pappy]

id suggest clearing this color (it brings out the color and depth) and it should hold up fine.

[300exOH]

Yeah I figured I would have to have them sand/bead blasted first. I figure it's worth a try to pc the rims since they are looking like crap now. I can always redo them now and then.

I'll let ya know when I'm ready.
Thanks bro:devil:

[TCracin440ex]

yea i can understand how xc racing would be hard.....and mx would be hard for some 1....because simply if you have to go to work on monday to put dinner on the table....then i wouldnt suggest anyone attempting some of the jumps...and mx is very hard on the back believe me because most of the time (when i ride anyways) im in a standing position on the pegs

[Pappy]

well ...im having to switch gears and not build a TT only quad. so i will build a kickazz weekend warrior to keep myself content:p


thanks to JHForeman who turned my kicker into something im skeert to throw a muddy boot on:D

[MotoX3]

Originally posted by Pappy

thanks to JHForeman who turned my kicker into something im skeert to throw a muddy boot on:D
lol i want my kicker to look like that....howd he do it:macho

[Pappy]

1st we sanded it down to remove the casting line and smooth the metal. then he spent about 45 minutes working it on my buffing wheels. i was happy with it, it looks really slick in person.

[JHF219]

Originally posted by Pappy
1st we sanded it down to remove the casting line and smooth the metal. then he spent about 45 minutes working it on my buffing wheels. i was happy with it, it looks really slick in person.

Polished aluminum is always very difficult to take pictures of i have never really figured it out :(

[SGA]

Originally posted by Pappy
I just like getting into new things that offer a challenge!

[Pappy]

i can get in there.....



















i'd just pretend i was looking for my daughter:o :devil:

[Quad18star]

Pappy , I must ask .... do you really have a money tree growing in your back yard??? If so , can I transplant it into my yard just for a few weeks ... I swear I'll give it back !!!!!

[JHF219]

Originally posted by Quad18star
Pappy , I must ask .... do you really have a money tree growing in your back yard??? If so , can I transplant it into my yard just for a few weeks ... I swear I'll give it back !!!!!

He had a money tree but some retard and a 450R broke it sorry :devil: :blah:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Quad18star
Pappy , I must ask .... do you really have a money tree growing in your back yard??? If so , can I transplant it into my yard just for a few weeks ... I swear I'll give it back !!!!!

i wish!

i just work non stop.

[Pappy]

ok its color time.

the frame and hubs will be gun metal, sub frame chrome..arms ..stem and various small parts are at the chromer now. black plastic will top it off.

im stuck on what color to do the calipers and holders, and the brake stay. if i did them in trans blue it would deffinatley stand out but im not sure if that will compliment the "un-busy" look of this R. so im leaning towards keeping the majority of pc work to one color.

any suggestions?

[Pappy]

ill try and show you what the color will be, its a 1000 times prettier in person.

[Pappy]

at different angles the color will turn from black to a deep dark silver. it has taken the place of my favorite charcoal metalic as the cleanest color.

[remlapr]

Post a pic of the charcoal metalic if you have one Pappy, I don't know if I've ever seen it...

[Pappy]

Originally posted by remlapr
Post a pic of the charcoal metalic if you have one Pappy, I don't know if I've ever seen it...

i will have to see if i have one at home. red's swing arm is that color if you saw it at hatfield

[300exOH]

That's going to be sweet. How about a very dark midnight blue instead of the trans blue. I think it would make for a nice subtle look.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 300exOH
That's going to be sweet. How about a very dark midnight blue instead of the trans blue. I think it would make for a nice subtle look.

thats a great idea. i could use metalic blue which is dark and wouldnt distract from the quad.

[300exOH]

Thanks. Glad you like the idea. I guess every dog has his day.:devil:

[oldsandman]

Originally posted by Pappy
ok its color time.

the frame and hubs will be gun metal, sub frame chrome..arms ..stem and various small parts are at the chromer now. black plastic will top it off.

im stuck on what color to do the calipers and holders, and the brake stay. if i did them in trans blue it would deffinatley stand out but im not sure if that will compliment the "un-busy" look of this R. so im leaning towards keeping the majority of pc work to one color.

any suggestions?

If you go with another color I think it could get too busy. I wanted the chrome and black look to run though it. Raw or polshed aluminium or silver held the look together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/oldsandman/450atsta640.jpg

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by oldsandman
If you go with another color I think it could get too busy. I wanted the chrome and black look to run though it. Raw or polshed aluminium or silver held the look together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/oldsandman/450atsta640.jpg

:eek2: :eek:

That's awesome. Me thinks I need to make a more concentrated effort to ride with oldsandman next time he hits Sand Mountain... :D

[oldsandman]

we'll hook up this fall i promise...I plan on getting up there as soon as I get back.:D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by oldsandman
If you go with another color I think it could get too busy. I wanted the chrome and black look to run though it. Raw or polshed aluminium or silver held the look together.



atleast i know now what it will look like! thats an awesome R oldsandman!! me like me like!!


well being that this quad will see dirt (no sand here unless i buy some:p ) i want everything coated so it doesnt discolor after every washing. i will clear most of the polished parts but didnt want to get overly chromed out cuz i dont polish:D

ill figure it out!

[Pappy]

all the small parts are done, waiting on the chrome shop to finish everything else

[Pappy]

clutch cover

[Pappy]

hubs

[Pappy]

dampner

[Pappy]

and throttle.

[ny300exrider]

i can not wait to see this quad together. ive always wanted to see a quad completly done with pc and chrome but stealthy and not so busy as well. good luck with it i think it is going to be beautiful

[Pappy]

frame is done

[Pappy]

i doubt i could ride it hard enough to break it, but i went ahead and had Burgard Cycles gusset the frame

[Pappy]

all critical areas that are known to be breaking were addressed.

[Pappy]

my man Gid did some fine tig welding...thanks dude:D

[Pappy]

the area near the lower a arm mount and stem caught me off gaurd....but they know what they know so im happy it was gusseted

[Pappy]

welp, that is all for now until i get a free minute to start reassembly

[Quad18star]

Wow they did an awesome job on the welds ... looks nicer than robotics welds . Frame looks sick by the way .

[440exnacsracer]

i give up, the reality has sank in, theres no way in heck im gonna have a chance in this competition. but, its torn down now so im gonna give it my best shot:rolleyes: :D

great quality work pappy, nice pc work and i think it will be a beautiful quad;) :D

[JHF219]

woot woot u gonna need some help puttin er togethor right ??

[Pappy]

440exnacsracer : i am not eligable to compete in any EXR contests so your safe from me:p



John...yes. you and kevin get over here:devil:

[UglyMotha™]

man pappy, you still haven't wrapped this baby up yet :o :p

[Pappy]

Originally posted by UglyMotha™
man pappy, you still haven't wrapped this baby up yet :o :p

ive been too busy building others quads and pc'n thier parts too mess with mine:grr:

[ohski]

Wow, great looking welds... almost as good as the pc job there Pappy..!

[400EXrider#91]

sweet pappy. don't take to long with this one i may have another quad for you to do.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 400EXrider#91
sweet pappy. don't take to long with this one i may have another quad for you to do.

no worries...mine gets pushed back all the time. just send what ever ya got:p

[Pappy]

got back my new billet clutch cover from the polisher

[440exnacsracer]

got back my new billet clutch cover from the polisher


o what the heck is this???? bet you wont do mine:D :D seriously how much for both side cases on a predator?

[JDiablo]

sweet pappy....welds are nasty as hell too:eek2: can't wait to get some bling bling done,i might have to send it in in a couple of weeks,seeing all this PC'in work in making me get kinda of anxious

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Pappy
got back my new billet clutch cover from the polisher Well Well Well ...... thats all I got to say . She's perdy snazzy !!!!!

[CatMostFeared]

Lookin good Pappy:D

[Pappy]

ok ok...so i added a splash of color:o

[JDiablo]

*shakes head* what color.....lol looks sweet

[Pappy]

more:devil:

[JDiablo]

damn pappy that is small as hell,but that will look good,that red will set it off a bit more

[Pappy]

i have to get the rest of the polish out of the corners but she is ready.

[Atreyu]

Pappy, I don't think you're paying close enough attention to detail....:blah:

[440exnacsracer]

man im ready to see this thing!.,, when you expectin her done?

[Rico]

Originally posted by 440exnacsracer
man im ready to see this thing!.,, when you expectin her done?

HOpefully for the winter ride at Hatfield....:eek2:

[Pappy]

as soon as all the parts finish coming in i will assemble it.

[Ryan]

Is there anything that you didn't polish :confused: .

Looks like its gonna be a sick ride.

[Pappy]

the only things that are polished are the shifter, brake lever and kicker. everything else is tripple plate chrome

[Shawn H]

So ya got any more pics of the rebuild since the last ones?

Looks good how hard is it to powder your shifter like that?

Looks Sweet!!!

[Pappy]

no new pics, although i did pc the stock swing arm last night just incase the aftermarket one doesnt arrive before im ready to reassemble this quad.


it wasnt that hard to pc the small areas, just some knife work and lots of heat tape:p

[440exnacsracer]

pappy, do you do your own polishing? i would like to do my sidecases, but it takes me about an hour a wheel to get a good shine. is there any easy way to do it? a machine or something? thx

[Pappy]

i only do small parts, it takes too much time that i dont have!

there are a few guys on the site that can probably polish them for you

[440exnacsracer]

ill probably end up doing them myself, time is something i have plenty of lol, i just would like to find something to put on a drill or something to polish it. thx anyway.
ben

[Pappy]

chromed spindles:devil:
pic 1 (http://www.********forums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1512&stc=1)

pic 2 (http://www.********forums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1510&stc=1)

[JDiablo]

Those pix dont wrk pappy

[sickmojave]

Originally posted by 300exrida
Those pix dont wrk pappy

they work for me ;)

[Pappy]

try this again

[Pappy]

pic 2

[ohski]

Let me just say.... :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

Wade

[Shawn H]

POPO is the man he did an awesome job on those.

He owes me some chroming and I cant wait until I can finally start on my own rebuild!! I still got 3 races left and after that let the building begin wooohooo:macho

Keep the pics coming Pappy

[Sportrax10]

Awesome looking parts, Pappy!:eek2:

I was kinda hoping to see it together by now though...:muscle:

[tamehart]

I will definitaley agree with everyone else. That thing is going to look sweet! Keep the pics coming...you are giving me more ideas...haha...nice work

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by sickmojave
they work for me ;)

they work for me now,prolly cause i was on a school computer,hey pappy how much did those run you?thinking about doing chrome spindels,they look nice and shiny:eek2:

[Pappy]

ummmm...dive into the engine and make it have bite with the bark:confused: :devil:

[Quad18star]

Hey Pappy .... if you have any extra money sitting in boxes soemwhere I'll PM you my adress and I'll be glad to take it from you . ;)

The bike is going to look sick .

[Pappy]

well spending another saturday sick with this flu, i turned my attention to some small parts. i wanted everything either coated or chromed so that cleaning would be easy and also allow the entire quad to flow together with the current color scheme. i used black mini texture to do the rear master cylinder and some other parts

[Pappy]

perch

[Pappy]

spacers

[Pappy]

swing arm

[TheFontMaster]

That is gonna be one badass 450r there pappy. When is it gonna be done. You been at this for like 2 months already. Well I can't wait to see it done.

[Pappy]

sorry, it takes time. i am doing the work not just buying parts off the shelf and assembling.

anyone who has seen my bikes in person knows the level of detail pays off....and i refuse to rush;)


and to add....having the flu for the last 2 weeks hasnt done much to help:mad:

[Quad18star]

It's a 450R ???? Chit for all this time I thought you were building a 400ex ... I'm an idiot .

Pappy .... you still have that flu ?? There only one way to get rid of it .... take out the bottle of Crown Royal and down it ..... You'll be smashed out of your tree , but it'll kill your flu . It's a last resort ... but has been something that has been proven to me that works . When we'd get the flu as kids , my grandmother would bring some whisky over and give us a shot . We were like 7 years old at the time . As kids it would make us sleep really well but the next day you'd have no flu . I still do it till this day , if I feel a cold , sore throat or flu symptoms comming on , I take a swig out of the bottle .... usually cures the problem .

[Pappy]

i actually felt a tad better today. i split 2 cords of wood this morning and actually mounted a few things on the frame. ofcourse now i have a headache the size of texas but atleast im not feeling like death warmed over.


mounted the WER stabilizer which needed slight modifacation to clear the 2 gussets but no biggie. also mounted the oil cooler.

[400EXrider#91]

Originally posted by Pappy
sorry, it takes time. i am doing the work not just buying parts off the shelf and assembling.

anyone who has seen my bikes in person knows the level of detail pays off....and i refuse to rush;)


and to add....having the flu for the last 2 weeks hasnt done much to help:mad:

i have seen some of his bikes in person. his bikes are pimp. as pappy was building mine i was like hurry up, hurry up. but now i am very glad he didn't hurry. My bike now makes heads turn ;)

and person thinks they can mess with pappy and build better bikes than him is gonna have it very tough. his bikes are flat out killer

[Pappy]

thanks dude:p

and the engine will be shipped out this week for a few simple tweaks:devil: :eek:

[popo]

Originally posted by 400EXrider#91
and person thinks they can mess with pappy and build better bikes than him is gonna have it very tough. his bikes are flat out killer

I aint skeeerd!!!!:D

[rowlrag]

Originally posted by popo
I aint skeeerd!!!!:D
ROLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by popo
I aint skeeerd!!!!:D

you'll be skeert if you dont get my parts back here:eek: :blah:

[I-7]

Looks great so far :macho . How much are spending on this whole thing?? Or is that confidential????

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by I-7
How much are spending on this whole thing??

cough20grandcough

Originally posted by 300exrida
cough20grandcough

give or take a few million:p

[allmixedup047]

Originally posted by Quad18star
It's a 450R ???? Chit for all this time I thought you were building a 400ex ... I'm an idiot .

Pappy .... you still have that flu ?? There only one way to get rid of it .... take out the bottle of Crown Royal and down it ..... You'll be smashed out of your tree , but it'll kill your flu . It's a last resort ... but has been something that has been proven to me that works . When we'd get the flu as kids , my grandmother would bring some whisky over and give us a shot . We were like 7 years old at the time . As kids it would make us sleep really well but the next day you'd have no flu . I still do it till this day , if I feel a cold , sore throat or flu symptoms comming on , I take a swig out of the bottle .... usually cures the problem .
hmmmm, i think i feel a cold coming on. cough cough! :devil:

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by sEX
give or take a few million:p

lol 20 grand prolly only cover chroming,polishing,and powdercoating lol

[Pappy]

i have no idea what i have in it at this point. its not so bad and sure as he!! aint no 20 grand:p i think:eek:

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
i have no idea what i have in it at this point. its not so bad and sure as he!! aint no 20 grand:p i think:eek:

ye i was wrong,25grand:o

[popo]

Originally posted by 300exrida
lol 20 grand prolly only cover chroming,polishing,and powdercoating lol

20 grand will do just fine for the chrome. Pappy I take it all in 1 dalla bills

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by popo
20 grand will do just fine for the chrome. Pappy I take it all in 1 dalla bills

big pimping,lol whoop out a stack of bills,and it all dollar bills lol i want to go to the bank one time nad just get two stacks of 200 dollars in singles:o

[Pappy]

i think we need to re discuss my bill:eek2: 20 grand ...wow:p


mounted the swing arm up. forgot the elka linkage at work so work came to a halt for tonight

[Pappy]

i even took care of those ugly collars that turn a nasty shade of nothing :devil:

[brian-250]

i know the scoop on this thing, all i got to say is pappy has to many contacts in the industry.:eek2:

[Pappy]

it pays to be a decent person and help others. it comes back to you when you need it.


the engine will be heading out this week for a full massage.

cam, piston, thermal coating, vortex ignition, fcr 41mm carb etc.

not sure if ill have them split the cases so i can do something with them yet

[440exnacsracer]

what color plastics you goin with? laker custom should make some clear (or do they for the 450r yet?) ....that would be sick

[Pappy]

laker custom jumped all over this project and is sending out some slick black fenders with a black hood. should look sick

[TheFontMaster]

Pappy whats that spy pic of in your avatar?

[brian-250]

Originally posted by TheFontMaster
Pappy whats that spy pic of in your avatar?


i could tell you, but i would get shot.:eek2:

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
i even took care of those ugly collars that turn a nasty shade of nothing :devil:

yea they do get pretty nasty looking,i just got my houser arms today and they are trick,now i have to decide on what color to get them powdercoated

[kazpr]

Pappy who is doing your motor work? What cam and piston are you going to go with?
Thanks for the tip on burgard gusseting the frame. I might have to get with them this winter on mine.
Thanks alot.

[I-7]

Its going to be too nice to ride :(

[Pappy]

Colby at C & D threatened me that if i didnt send him my engine then he would personally wreck me the next chance he had. i believe he muttered running me over in the parking lot with his truck:eek: :devil:



im not certain on anything as far as the rebuild, im sure he can fill you in.

[Rico]

Pappy you runnin stock linkage on the arse end of that thing???

Word has it that GT Thunders linkage and rebuild on the rear is the best on earth. Borich seems to like it since he's won the last 2 GNCC races....:cool:

[Pappy]

no i have the elka linkage. ill jump on borichs quad and see what i like better

[Rico]

Originally posted by Pappy
no i have the elka linkage. ill jump on borichs quad and see what i like better

Rolwrag had the elka linkage also and went with Laz's linkage and said it was much better. Not to take away anything from Elka just relaying info from top racers that have tuned and tested their shocks to the max...:cool:


and I still don't think you can handle the motor, you should leave it stock.....:devil:

[Pappy]

well i wouldnt be above trying laz's linkage, i would mind having to get a new shock. am i right thinking i would need a new shock since mine is set up for the elka link:confused:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Rico



and I still don't think you can handle the motor, you should leave it stock.....:devil:


you just better wear a chest protector at hatfield:devil:

[Rico]

Originally posted by Pappy
well i wouldnt be above trying laz's linkage, i would mind having to get a new shock. am i right thinking i would need a new shock since mine is set up for the elka link:confused:

No sir. But laz might have to revalve and respring your shock...:(

But he might work a deal with ya cuz I"m sure yo quad will be in a mag or 2...:o

Reason I asked was i noticed the small SSD spring on you rear shock, I guess the 450R's are different than the 400ex, cuz I have a fat arse top spring on my rear shock...:confused:

[Pappy]

to be completely honest rico i never even looked at ot closely. ive grown acustom to my elka's being ready right from the box and usually install them and have no problems. ill look her over tonight tho.


the biggest issue i have with the elka linkage is the skid plate clearence issue. its easily fixed but adds labor to the process.

[Shawn H]

I'm not Borich so take my Opinion as ya will but I had a Elka and there link and it is no comparison to my Axis and Gt thunder Link.

Also with the elka my air box cracked when my suspension bottomed out so ya have to raise it 3/8" for clearance.

Laz will just have to revalve your elka for his link or send ya the specs and you can have anyone revalve it. I would highly recommend at least trying it you will not be dissapointed. Rico is right!!:huh

[kazpr]

Well after this all I am going straight for a GT thunder setup!! May try to give him a call tomorrow :)

[TampaBoy813]

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WOW thats all I have to say.....UnF*ing Real Dude!


keep posting the Pics.....wheres the plastics?!:blah:

[Mxjunkie]

come on pappy my grand mother builds stuff quicker!! :blah: just kidding, good well put togather things need all the time they get, and in the end it will be one badass bike :macho i cant wait too see it

[400EXrider#91]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
come on pappy my grand mother builds stuff quicker!! :blah: just kidding, good well put togather things need all the time they get, and in the end it will be one badass bike :macho i cant wait too see it

Don't rush the man. it may take a while but it will be blingin' when it comes out. i will never forget the day i saw mine in real life i was like :eek: :macho both at the same time

[440exnacsracer]

more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....
!!!!
cmon pops, lets see some more pics:D

[YFZ450Ridr]

Originally posted by 440exnacsracer
more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....more pics...more pics....
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cmon pops, lets see some more pics:D

ya what he said :p

[Pappy]

there really isnt anything to take pics of right now. the exhaust did arrive but i havent addressed its current state of "non shiney" yet:devil:



i did get to be up close and personal last night with the EXR project 450R and man did it ever turn out awesome! it put some decent numbers up on the mobile dyno also:eek:

[440exnacsracer]

what exhaust?? HMF? i cant wait to see this thing together, i know it must be bad for you lol.

[Pappy]

i will be running a curtis sparks pipe

[TheFontMaster]

When are we gonna get some info on the exriders project 450r? I though it was suposed to be done in july. Pappy is that what is in your avatar?

[440exnacsracer]

i will be running a curtis sparks pipe

thought they were ceramic coated:confused: , i guess you know what can and cant be polished though :D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by TheFontMaster
When are we gonna get some info on the exriders project 450r? I though it was suposed to be done in july. Pappy is that what is in your avatar?

the project 450R has been completed and is badass. i only saw a bunch of parts and pieces as i coated them and polished them and i must say she is a head turner.

look for a full article on the site and in the magazines shortly!

[JDiablo]

how shortly???!?:macho

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by Pappy
frame is done

Pappy, did burgard supply all of the gussets in a kit? If so, how much are the kits? Its the first gusset kit i've found with the top motor mount gusset. Thanks!

[Pappy]

burgard makes the gussets as needed. he said he wouldnt mind making and selling a kit but for now he is just doing them as people send in thier frames.


as soon as the chrome parts arrive i can finish assembly of my project

[Bad Habit]

Originally posted by Pappy
as soon as the chrome parts arrive i can finish assembly of my project


Popo, I think this was intended for you. How is that nice pink chrome coming along anyway??

:blah:

[Pappy]

naaa popo has kept me informed. i expected 4 weeks and thats what its been. the quality of work is worth the wait IMO. i got the spindles and they are perfect.

[Bad Habit]

Yup, I saw the pics of the spindles, and they do look great. Bling-o-meter was hitting redline.

Curious as to why you had them chromed. Was just polished not blingy enough or not rugged enough?

[Pappy]

i had helped popo out with pc work on his z400 so i cashed in.

[Bad Habit]

Oh, that's cool. It's good to have friends in low places huh :D

[Pappy]

you would be surprised at how much horse trading goes on:p

[Rico]

Originally posted by Bad Habit
Oh, that's cool. It's good to have friends in low places huh :D

Are you callin popo short???:eek:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Rico
Are you callin popo short???:eek:

popo isnt short....








if ya lay him on his side he is normal height:devil: :blah:

sorry gary, ill buy the donuts at ironman:D

[popo]

Originally posted by Pappy
popo isnt short....








if ya lay him on his side he is normal height:devil: :blah:

sorry gary, ill buy the donuts at ironman:D

I don't eat donuts gall darn it...... and youre getting pink chrome now douch bag. :devil:

It's done and getting the final prep.

[Pappy]

hahaha

its all good. ill be glad to get the parts back so i can drool all over it:devil:

[Rico]

See Popo isn't short....:o

[popo]

Originally posted by Rico
See Popo isn't short....:o

I see you got a picture of Jerry... Your babies father. :devil: :devil:

[Pappy]

run and hide...run and hide:eek:

[Rico]

Originally posted by popo
I see you got a picture of Jerry... Your babies father. :devil: :devil:

:eek:

Sorry but the wife doesn't like dark meat popo....:o

[Bad Habit]

Originally posted by popo
I see you got a picture of Jerry... Your babies father. :devil: :devil:

Oh lmao!

That one's gotta sting just a little.

[Meek]

Originally posted by popo
I see you got a picture of Jerry... Your babies father. :devil: :devil: :eek:

[Pappy]

the pipe is now up to standards:devil:

[Quad18star]

Ok Pappy ... I'm officially jealous . :grr:

[Pappy]

no need to be jealous..lol

it took me about 2 hours to get it right or close anyway. but its friday night so what else was i gunna do:grr: :blah:

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Pappy
no need to be jealous..lol

it took me about 2 hours to get it right or close anyway. but its friday night so what else was i gunna do:grr: :blah:

Welll if you ever get bored , just let me know ... I can send you my YFZ and when you're done getting it all perdy you can send it back . :blah: Oh you can add any mods you'd like also ..... just send the bill to LtandRaptorider !!!!:devil:

[allmixedup047]

Originally posted by Pappy
the pipe is now up to standards:devil:
BLING BLING.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Quad18star
Welll if you ever get bored , just let me know ... I can send you my YFZ and when you're done getting it all perdy you can send it back . :blah: Oh you can add any mods you'd like also ..... just send the bill to LtandRaptorider !!!!:devil:

if people would strip the parts you would be surprised at how much i would do just because im bored

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Pappy
if people would strip the parts you would be surprised at how much i would do just because im bored

I'll begin stripping !!!!


















The parts that is . :blah:

[Pappy]

i dont mean bored in a bad way,

like today, my bro and kid are at the track, wife and other kid are hangin out cleaning the house. ive shot almost all i have to do and im waiting till 3 pm so i can go get in my treestand and try to get some meat for the freezer. my R is waiting on parts...so thats on hold. i have like 6 frames at the strippers so im lookin for chit to do:p

[allmixedup047]

Originally posted by Pappy
i dont mean bored in a bad way,

like today, my bro and kid are at the track, wife and other kid are hangin out cleaning the house. ive shot almost all i have to do and im waiting till 3 pm so i can go get in my treestand and try to get some meat for the freezer. my R is waiting on parts...so thats on hold. i have like 6 frames at the strippers so im lookin for chit to do:p
did someone say strippers?:blah:

[brian-250]

lay the bling on my 400 free of charge is what you can do.

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by brian-250
lay the bling on my 400 free of charge is what you can do.

that is only me:blah: i think one of those frames are mine!(hope so neway)

[400EXrider#91]

Originally posted by Pappy
the pipe is now up to standards:devil:

HOLY SHAT:eek:

[kgbg]

Thats a very nice color for the PC. I think it will turn some heads. I always like to see your work, good luck getting it done quick and under budget!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by kgbg
Thats a very nice color for the PC. I think it will turn some heads. I always like to see your work, good luck getting it done quick and under budget!

i appreciate it. ive been accused of posting to drum up business(geez im a site sponsor imagine that:huh )

anyway, i truly enjoy what i do and just like to share the pictures and offer ideas for others.


looks like popo has me chrome bling'n:devil:

[CTmxyfz]

Pappy man, your bikes and work make me want to do the same. The work is so fit, clean, and sick. You helped make Exriders what it is today IMO.

The deals you also give to people on PC. idk what you give others, but the deals you give me are great. I really appreciate it and the outcomes i get from my bike around here. I always tell them its from my PC man in Maryland.

Anyway, keep that bike blinging. You going to let me ride it like i did that sick 425 you had?:eek: :cool:

[440exnacsracer]

pappy....stop teasin folks, you got all the parts now:D

[parkers30]

any updates? this thing is going to be sweet, Glad to hear Cody did so well at the Ironman, I was there but didnt introduce myself to anyone

[Pappy]

Originally posted by parkers30
I was there but didnt introduce myself to anyone

damn did we smell funny:scary: :blah:

cody sez thanks!

i did get all my chrome parts back , and installed them tonight. my a arms are at the chromers now and should be back and installed mid week. i think sunday we are installing the engine and should be getting close to wrapping it all up within the next 10 days depending on the situation with my dad:ermm:

excuse the mess, my stuff gets shuffled in a corner to make room to work on codys quad:mad:

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by Pappy
damn did we smell funny:scary: :blah:

cody sez thanks!

i did get all my chrome parts back , and installed them tonight. my a arms are at the chromers now and should be back and installed mid week. i think sunday we are installing the engine and should be getting close to wrapping it all up within the next 10 days depending on the situation with my dad:ermm:

excuse the mess, my stuff gets shuffled in a corner to make room to work on codys quad:mad:

I hope the chrome on that aluminum sub-frame holds up....lookin good!

[EPDP99]

Originally posted by Pappy
if people would strip the parts you would be surprised at how much i would do just because im bored


I got a sand blaster and what not ready. If you that bore i can send ya bunches of stuff. Illjust ship my quad in a crate, lol.

[popo]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
I hope the chrome on that aluminum sub-frame holds up....lookin good!

Why would'nt it hold up? Aint done by no rookies.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
I hope the chrome on that aluminum sub-frame holds up....lookin good!

well anytime you do something to the sub frame you run a risk of tearing it up if you wreck or roll. its a chance you take for the looks

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by popo
Why would'nt it hold up? Aint done by no rookies.

lol...I know...but I was just thinking about it being aluminum and all. Chrome on aluminum will crack before chrome on steel simply because the alminum moves or shift more, but im sure this subframe will be fine.

[team_450_88]

POPO....u sho nuff put the bling in blingbling......and PAPPY...thats gonna be a tighttttttttt r man...Hell how are u gonna be able to take somethin that pretty off in the mud/woods and rocks and crap...I couldnt do that to it !! lol now for my quads its a different story ill take it whereeva but thats only cause it aint got tha bling bling yet...but its coming this WINTER !!:D

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by team_450_88
POPO....u sho nuff put the bling in blingbling......and PAPPY...thats gonna be a tighttttttttt r man...Hell how are u gonna be able to take somethin that pretty off in the mud/woods and rocks and crap...I couldnt do that to it !! lol now for my quads its a different story ill take it whereeva but thats only cause it aint got tha bling bling yet...but its coming this WINTER !!:D

It's going to be a TT quad. No rocks, or trees....not much mud.

[popo]

All that bling holds up just fine againt all the mud and crap.

Aint found nothing yet that can stand a good smack from a rock yet.

[UglyMotha™]

Originally posted by popo
All that bling holds up just fine againt all the mud and crap.

Aint found nothing yet that can stand a good smack from a rock yet.



i'll vouch for popo's crap, my cases went thru one harsh season and there's still blinging beyond belief i didn't expect them to be still looking this good, there is just some minor scuffing where my boots rub the cases

so deffinantly good quality stuff http://www.exriders.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Pappy]

well, tonight i stayed away from the family and the hospital (tired of that place)

wrenched for a few hours and she is almost ready to roll:macho

[Rico]

Originally posted by Pappy
well, tonight i stayed away from the family and the hospital (tired of that place)

wrenched for a few hours and she is almost ready to roll:macho

IT was probably good you did that Pappy. I"ll be wrenchin on mine today also. Except it's not going together it's gettin tore apart...:(

[SRH]

i wish i was puttin mine together instead of tearing it apart, now if i could only stay off my 50 long enough to get it to the bare frame so i could send it out and get that over with....lol

[JDiablo]

Originally posted by Pappy
well, tonight i stayed away from the family and the hospital (tired of that place)

wrenched for a few hours and she is almost ready to roll:macho

trick,gotta love those duncan bumpers too.....only one pic thou:(

[400EXrider#91]

Originally posted by Pappy
well, tonight i stayed away from the family and the hospital (tired of that place)

wrenched for a few hours and she is almost ready to roll:macho

looking good pappy, all the west side gangsters are gonna have fun getting more bling than that

[theTman]

damn pappy...lookin good:)

[ny300exrider]

looks sweet man i can't wait to see this one!! this quad is going to have tt and flattrack influence in it right?

im definitly getting some pc done next winter no doubt

[440exnacsracer]

wrenched for a few hours and she is almost ready to roll

though its not the quality work i usually see from you,...it looks OK:D j/k, looks badarse fo sho

[Pappy]

well, i have a few odds and ends to finish up, still waiting on the fenders and seat cover (installation) grips etc.

if i can find the damn cutch cover o ring i could atleast fire it:p

[Bush0102]

:eek2:

I would be afraid to let it even touch dirt.

[Pappy]

last pic till she is washed

[Atreyu]

Originally posted by Pappy
last pic till she is washed


Washed?! How much more clean could it get?:eek2:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Atreyu
Washed?! How much more clean could it get?:eek2:

oh its dirty alright:p fingerprints all over the chrome..grease and oil and damn dust. the engine needs to be cleaned along with the wiring harness and airbox etc. pictures dont show everything:p

[YLW400]

Looks sweet dude!

[ny300exrider]

looks sickkk, i havnt seen the grooved radial/turf combo in a while!! that used to be the hottest setup before klaws razrs ad mx4's came around. that thing is seriously beautiful, good job

[JDiablo]

watta POS:o lol just kidding pappy,that thing is sweet....hurry up and find that o-ring so you can fire her up!

[Quad18star]

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: Pappy if I ever win some $$ ... I'll get you to build my next quad .

Looking at that and now going to see my 450 in my garage , makes me wanna burn mine to the ground . LOL

That's the nicest quad I've seen in a long tome .

[Pappy]

lol..thx

i just build them the way i want them and to hell with anyone else:p i wanted this one to stand out but not because fo color. plain jane she be.

i will get a full photo shoot of all areas once she has been finished and fully detailed. then its off to the jiggly room:huh

i love the radial/turf combo. for the type of riding this quad will see it should be just fine. burgard grooved me a set and we slapped them on his beadlocks for the old school look.

there are some trick things on this quad, especially in regards to the molycoating. i shouldnt have any trouble with corrosion:devil:

[Quad18star]

What type of riding are you gunan be doing with the quad Kenny?

I'm thinking about switching my front tires on my 450 from Holeshots to radials . Ive decided it's not gunna be a race machine .... just gunna use it around the cottage and on the old logging roads . I think the radials would do a better job . Does anyone know if radials will fit on Hiper front rims??

[JDiablo]

i think it is for flatrack/tt?

[Pappy]

radials to good on dry hardpack. they arent worth squat in wet, slick areas.

this quad will be used to demo my work ....then it will get the snot beat out of it.

[cletusEX]

Looking sweet Pappy! It was nice talking to ya again and I'll keep in touch about that moly coating.

[spud400ex]

that thing is tight!!!!!!!!:cool: :cool:

[Pappy]

i rode it last night just to warm it up.

i believe im taking out the rekluse since i dont feel i will need it for the type of riding i will be doing with it in its current form.

i am installing the Laker Custom fenders tomarrow night so i will hopefully soon have a new thread and full detailed pics of the build.

[MY450R]

pappy i love that r man its sweet

[Rico]

:scary: Too clean, I want pics of it dirty..:mad:

[JDiablo]

i want to see pix of it complete first:D

[Ericthered rdr]

Hey Pappy where you plan on running TT at????? I know budds runs them once in awhile but where else.

[440exnacsracer]

pappy, that is truly a beautiful quad, and i dont use that word frequently, but this calls for the occasion;)

[JDiablo]

yes it is a beautiful quad:huh lol j/k c'mon pappy i want to see some pix with them laker customs

[440exnacsracer]

you makin fun of me banana boy:grr: :blah: :blah:

[JDiablo]

lol no:scary:

[Pappy]

maybe tomarrow ill get a few new pics if the sun cooperates. i really dont want to post too many until its done so i can really show it off:p

[440exnacsracer]

wow thanks pappy, wanna come wash out my boxers for me:mad: , j/k now go adjust that toe in/out:blah: :blah: , cant wait to see some pics though, its looking great,....no beautiful:D