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wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 10:20 AM
So, imagine your wife or girlfriend gives you the go-ahead, is it still cheating?

What if she says "Go ahead, just don't tell me", that she doesn't want to know about it. What she doesn't know can't hurt her. Is that really considered permission?

Pappy
07-22-2004, 10:21 AM
welp, according to the bible and a divorce lawyer....yes its cheating:p

Dan_Guetter
07-22-2004, 10:25 AM
If shes saying that to you, odds are shes doing something behind your back....even though you can't imagine it..........its happining.......been in that situation before......

zephead400ex
07-22-2004, 10:26 AM
Well my wise one, what a question you have, lol.

When a woman says "Go ahead and sleep with another woman." Basically means, if you "go ahead" then she will "go ahead and cut your balls off." So really, it's all about 'your' peception; wheather you want to keep your balls or not!:D

just for the record...I want to keep my balls, attached

Now, if she is included, then that is a whole 'nother ball of...well...something:D

theozman82
07-22-2004, 10:28 AM
or mabey she want to see if you are worth keeping around or if she can trust you

Dan_Guetter
07-22-2004, 10:28 AM
Shes up to something, damn women and there evil jedi mind games!:mad: :mad: :o

wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
If shes saying that to you, odds are shes doing something behind your back....even though you can't imagine it..........its happining.......been in that situation before......

Interesting philisophy. What if the girl is very clingy, and you almost can't take a $hit without her being in the bathroom with you, would you still suspect her of messing around?

cody anderson
07-22-2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
Shes up to something, damn women and there evil jedi mind games!:mad: :mad: :o

I hear ya Dan-o... :rolleyes:

cody anderson
07-22-2004, 10:35 AM
******z...

diesel-mech
07-22-2004, 10:39 AM
WTF???
NO you are not allowed to sleep with other woman! Why do you think men are always confused about woman??? They say stuff they absolutley don't want. They are the DEVIL:devil: !!!
Tell her thanks for the permission but I can't be with anyone but you. She will start planning you wedding! Thats how they work. Everything is a test to get to the level they want to be at.
If you want out of the relationship then by all means go ahead but she will be off to find another future husband.

86350x
07-22-2004, 10:45 AM
Not sure, i'd say stick with the one you had no matter what. And if she's cheating on you, tell her to be gone and don't ever come back. It's what I did, and it felt great (after about 3 days:p ) to get rid of that nagging, cheating pos.

If somone else is plowing her, I wouldn't want to go down on it. Or do any of that stuff for her. I'd imagine women would feel the same way about that also.

If you don't think she's the one for you, then don't start going out with her in the first place........................

wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 10:45 AM
Ok, I need some female members to give me some insight on how the female mind works...

Pappy
07-22-2004, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
Ok, I need some female members to give me some insight on how the female mind works...

jesus...you really want a kick in the nutz dont you:p

Ralph
07-22-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
Interesting philisophy. What if the girl is very clingy, and you almost can't take a $hit without her being in the bathroom with you, would you still suspect her of messing around?

eat more beans;)

86350x
07-22-2004, 10:50 AM
But you should be able to go to the strip club, and get everything short of a bj. Since your not having sex with anyone. It just get's you all reved up, and ready to nail her when you get home.

polarisbabe468
07-22-2004, 10:54 AM
thats a tough one....is she ur wife or g/f...i can see to a point were shes cummin from cause i doubt she is but im still a virgin n if i was with a guy like seriouse or somethin i would tell him if he really needed it he could mess around every once in a while cause he wasnt goin to get n e one from...u know wat he told me...im with u cause i like U i dont care bout that:cool: so there could be 2 sides babe she could be messin around on ya or she could be testin ya!...........why dont you tell her the same thing n see wat she says....sry if im no help
crystal

wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 11:37 AM
Ok, let me dispel this right now, this is not my girlfriend we are talking about.

I'll give you the whole situation, and all the information I know.

I don't doubt that this guy loves his girlfriend, and I also don't doubt that he loves her back. She is very needy and clingy "where are you going, when are you going to be back, can I come with you" Because of this, I don't really think she is cheating on him. If she was cheating, I don't think she would want to be around him every minute of every day.

Ok, so here is where it gets a little wierd. She started taking anti-depressants. Along with removing her depression, they have also removed her sex drive completely. From what I gather, even when they DO have sex, it's pretty boring. I guess this has put a strain on thier relationship.

A little later, something suspicious happens, and she accuses him of cheating. She then goes on to say that she doesn't really blame him for going outside their relationship for sexual satisfaction. After the converstion is over, she basically told him the same question I posed to you guys. He can go get laid, as long as she doesn't know about it. Go get it out of his system so that he can come home without all that sexual tension.

So what is he to do? I told him that I honestly cannot answer that question, it has WAY too many variables and ramifications, and that he would have to answer his moral dilema for himself.

07-22-2004, 11:41 AM
I'll answer this question after the weekend...:p

diesel-mech
07-22-2004, 11:41 AM
She slept with somebody else! Not a doubt!

Pappy
07-22-2004, 11:44 AM
oh hell, since he aint married he needs to wrap his willy...take a few viagra ...and drain the bank account getting himself "tuned up":devil:

zephead400ex
07-22-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Rico
I'll answer this question after the weekend...:p


:eek2: Are you trying to plant your seed again, outside of your garden? haha

Wilkins250r, what a dilemma. If things were turned around, would he want the same for her? Well, if she is taking anti-deppressants then she probably wouldn't be too opposed as to taking a hormone enhancement drug to boost her sex drive.

polarisbabe468
07-22-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
oh hell, since he aint married he needs to wrap his willy...take a few viagra ...and drain the bank account getting himself "tuned up":devil:

haha pappy ur great:blah:

zephead400ex
07-22-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by polarisbabe468
thats a tough one....is she ur wife or g/f...i can see to a point were shes cummin from cause i doubt she is but im still a virgin n if i was with a guy like seriouse or somethin i would tell him if he really needed it he could mess around every once in a while cause he wasnt goin to get n e one from...u know wat he told me...im with u cause i like U i dont care bout that:cool: so there could be 2 sides babe she could be messin around on ya or she could be testin ya!...........why dont you tell her the same thing n see wat she says....sry if im no help
crystal

So you are saying that if you were in a serious relationship and your guy wanted some play that you wouldn't provide, you would give him permission to go out and find some strange? How old are you and where do you live?:devil:

Pappy
07-22-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by polarisbabe468
haha pappy ur great:blah:

dont show me your tongue unless your serious:o i cant take teasing:p

Dan_Guetter
07-22-2004, 11:58 AM
I would pose the question........."Lets have a 3-some":blah: :blah: and if she doesn't want to join in, its her loss:o See if shes coo with that:devil:

polarisbabe468
07-22-2004, 11:58 AM
haha well im not sayin i wouod be happy but if he really wanted to be with me then he wouldnt do it.......but ya im 16 n i aint like no goody goody lil bibl beater i just think that there to many gurls my age that are hoes n have a kid so...not sayin ima waite till i get married if so then thats how it will be i just havent found the right time yet ,... yaknow? n e wayz im out
crystal

zephead400ex
07-22-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by polarisbabe468
haha well im not sayin i wouod be happy but if he really wanted to be with me then he wouldnt do it.......but ya im 16 n i aint like no goody goody lil bibl beater i just think that there to many gurls my age that are hoes n have a kid so...not sayin ima waite till i get married if so then thats how it will be i just havent found the right time yet ,... yaknow? n e wayz im out
crystal

haha, I hear ya, I was giving you a hard time...wait...maybe it wasn't hard enough:eek2: :blah: I'm just messing with ya. Just don't end up with a disease or something that resembles...\O/, that is not good. This is good \o/...make sense?

:macho

wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by diesel-mech
She slept with somebody else! Not a doubt!

Yeah, we discussed that, and it's always a possibility, but I honestly doubt it. She is so needy and clingy. If she is bumpin' uglies with somebody else, would she want to be around him every minute of every hour of every day?

wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by zephead400ex
Well, if she is taking anti-deppressants then she probably wouldn't be too opposed as to taking a hormone enhancement drug to boost her sex drive.

This was my first suggestion. :)

polarisbabe468
07-22-2004, 12:03 PM
haha got it ;)

Regular_Joe
07-22-2004, 12:06 PM
I find it funny, as your talking about the situation I'm thinking this sounds just like my ex who was depressed. Been in that situation before. Not good.

First off let me say that I feel sex is an important part of a relationship. There has to be that intense animal attraction. I don't know why, but it needs to be there. Its like it makes you feel alive. I have seen a definate correlation between sex and how my relationships turn out. The better the sex, the better the relationship.

I feel that when a relationship gets to the point that sex is an issue, the relationship is in a death spiral for sure.

Another thing is the whole 3 some thing or getting someone else thing. It always sounds fun and like a good idea, but from experience it will get in the way. I don't know why, but it always does.

IMO the writings on the wall .... and the relationship is in a death spiral. Call it quits, cut your losses, and get out of there. Why would you want to live the rest of your life like this .... ????

Pappy
07-22-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
Yeah, we discussed that, and it's always a possibility, but I honestly doubt it. She is so needy and clingy. If she is bumpin' uglies with somebody else, would she want to be around him every minute of every hour of every day?

i wouldnt bet on that. women are strange creatures:eek2:

Ralph
07-22-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
Yeah, we discussed that, and it's always a possibility, but I honestly doubt it. She is so needy and clingy. If she is bumpin' uglies with somebody else, would she want to be around him every minute of every hour of every day?

maybe shes guilty and doesnt want him to think anything...

wilkin250r
07-22-2004, 12:16 PM
I did tell him that if sex is really straining their relationship, I don't think sleeping with someone else is going to save it.

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
I did tell him that if sex is really straining their relationship, I don't think sleeping with someone else is going to save it.

That's probably just going to make things worse. Tell him to get her off the anti-depressants and learn how to make the girl happy! If he really loves her, he'd try his hardest to make her happy...and it is possible for someone to make you happy even if you are clinically depressed, trust me I know and I haven't even met this person! (No I'm not dating someone online...my friend is though, haha what a loser).

Either that or masturbate.

zephead400ex
07-22-2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
i wouldnt bet on that. women are strange creatures:eek2:

I agree 1000000%. My ex-gf from 5 years ago was really cool, let me do my thing, she did hers and I never suspected anything. After we broke up, I found out she has cheated on me with 5 guys. <- That is why I am a very jealous person whichs causes a lot of problems in my relationship now. I was never jealous of anything/anyone until I found out my ex had cheated on me and I did not suspect anything!!!!!!

Anyone have any pointers on getting over jealousy?

Wilkins, you hit the nail on the head. Going outside the relationship for sex will not serve any purpose to better their relationship.

Pappy
07-22-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by zephead400ex


Anyone have any pointers on getting over jealousy?



yeah, ignore it. you wont ever stop someone from cheating and if you had to stop them then they arent worth your worry

zephead400ex
07-22-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
yeah, ignore it. you wont ever stop someone from cheating and if you had to stop them then they arent worth your worry

Wish it was that easy bro, but that is what I tell myself. I know my gf, hopefully soon to be fiance, will never cheat on me, but that is what I thought about my ex. This one is different though, I do trust her, it is just a personal issue I have to correct.

cody anderson
07-22-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
I would pose the question........."Lets have a 3-some":blah: :blah: and if she doesn't want to join in, its her loss:o See if shes coo with that:devil:

you called it dude...

quad
07-22-2004, 01:33 PM
A piece passed up,is a piece ya never get!!!!!!
If ya cant turn it down,turn it over!!!!!!!!!!!
TEAR IT UP!!!!!!!!!!! :devil:

sly400ex
07-22-2004, 01:43 PM
As long as she doesn't find out, it's not cheating!!!:devil:

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by sly400ex
As long as she doesn't find out, it's not cheating!!!:devil:

Would you want your gf/fiance/wife using that same principal?

I have a horrible problem with trust after my last gf, she always got pissed at me because I always asked her where she was going/who she was with/what she was doing...the only reason I did that was because she would drink, do drugs, and cheat on me behind my back. And she said the reason our relationship failed was because I couldn't trust her... F' that.

trick450r
07-22-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
I would pose the question........."Lets have a 3-some":blah: :blah: and if she doesn't want to join in, its her loss:o See if shes coo with that:devil:

woot dan knows were its at!! thats how you fix a relationship!!:blah: :macho

SRH
07-22-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
So, imagine your wife or girlfriend gives you the go-ahead, is it still cheating?

What if she says "Go ahead, just don't tell me", that she doesn't want to know about it. What she doesn't know can't hurt her. Is that really considered permission?

translation


sure go ahead, this will be a good excuse to cover up me cheating on you, ill get pissed off at you and get out of this realationship and move in the guy i been bangin behind your back

SRH
07-22-2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
i wouldnt bet on that. women are strange creatures:eek2:

i dont trust em myself dem crittas

quad
07-22-2004, 06:09 PM
I dont trust anything,that bleeds for a week and dont die!!!
:devil:

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by quad
I dont trust anything,that bleeds for a week and dont die!!!
:devil:

South Park rules...

trick450r
07-22-2004, 06:42 PM
Either that or masturbate.

oh yeh...that might be a bad idea

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/8884/killkittens.jpg

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/4417/pope.jpg


Lol j/p mastubation is a solution for every one of lifes problems

LTandRaptorider
07-22-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by quad
I dont trust anything,that bleeds for a week and dont die!!!
:devil:

Holy chit!!!! LMGDFAO!!! :D :D

LTandRaptorider
07-22-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
oh yeh...that might be a bad idea

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/8884/killkittens.jpg

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/4417/pope.jpg


Lol j/p mastubation is a solution for every one of lifes problems

think I'll go solve a couple problems roight now... :eek: :o

Cole Trane
07-22-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by quad
I dont trust anything,that bleeds for a week and dont die!!!
:devil:

Yeah, that's hilarious, yet true at the same time.

400grl
07-22-2004, 07:32 PM
Well......hmmm.....even if she really means it at the time she says "go ahead, just don't tell me abou it", she is going to regret it as soon as she THINKS he's gone ahead and "done it". There are some sex issues in that relationship that either need to be worked out between them as a couple, or they should reconsider the whole "couple" thing altogether.....if he takes her "permission" and finds someone else, the relationship is over. Anti-D's can definately effect the sex drive........maybe there are other alternatives?? The whole thing sounds messed up......if he sleeps with someone else - it's over. Plain and simple.

400EXrider#91
07-22-2004, 07:34 PM
do you know how many kittens there are? whats a couple less?:eek2:

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by 400grl
Well......hmmm.....even if she really means it at the time she says "go ahead, just don't tell me abou it", she is going to regret it as soon as she THINKS he's gone ahead and "done it". There are some sex issues in that relationship that either need to be worked out between them as a couple, or they should reconsider the whole "couple" thing altogether.....if he takes her "permission" and finds someone else, the relationship is over. Anti-D's can definately effect the sex drive........maybe there are other alternatives?? The whole thing sounds messed up......if he sleeps with someone else - it's over. Plain and simple.

Exactly. Pretty much how I'd put it.

What kind of anti-depressants are these people taking? My ex-gf was on anti-d's and it seemed to INCREASE her drive:confused:

LTandRaptorider
07-22-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Toadz400
Exactly. Pretty much how I'd put it.

What kind of anti-depressants are these people taking? My ex-gf was on anti-d's and it seemed to INCREASE her drive:confused:

Well, my ex got on them... some would say I drove her to them... :o Anywho... it decreased her already low drive. Meanwhile, mine goes up with each passing year... and now my hand wants a divorce! :eek: :blah:

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by LTandRaptorider
Well, my ex got on them... some would say I drove her to them... :o Anywho... it decreased her already low drive. Meanwhile, mine goes up with each passing year... and now my hand wants a divorce! :eek: :blah:

Hahaha...I guess I just got lucky:D . My EX had an unusually high sex-drive...I think people call that a "slut"? That's why I had to get rid of her. I think I'd rather be with someone I have things in common with and I can relate to, oh and someone who doesn't go behind my back and sleep with other guys:D .

Butters
07-22-2004, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
oh hell, since he aint married he needs to wrap his willy...take a few viagra ...and drain the bank account getting himself "tuned up":devil:

hahaha that is funny. :D :) :p

Samson
07-22-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by LTandRaptorider
Well, my ex got on them... some would say I drove her to them... :o Anywho... it decreased her already low drive. Meanwhile, mine goes up with each passing year... and now my hand wants a divorce! :eek: :blah:


Been my experience a woman's sex drive has a direct correlation with the size of her partner's.....uhHum.


Needeless to say my ol' lady has a healthy appetite! :devil:



:p :p :p :p

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Samson
Been my experience a woman's sex drive has a direct correlation with the size of her partner's.....uhHum.


Needeless to say my ol' lady has a healthy appetite! :devil:



:p :p :p :p

Wow, now I know why those anti-depressants weren't affecting my gf's sex drive!! It actually went up! :D

LTandRaptorider
07-22-2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Samson
Been my experience a woman's sex drive has a direct correlation with the size of her partner's.....uhHum.


Needeless to say my ol' lady has a healthy appetite! :devil:



:p :p :p :p

not always true... she complained that despite my liberal tongue lashing, I was splitting her apart... :eek: :devil:

Samson
07-22-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by LTandRaptorider
not always true... she complained that despite my liberal tongue lashing, I was splitting her apart... :eek: :devil:

Really?

Cause mine likes it even better when I give her a tongue! :eek: :D

Oh lashing....:o

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by LTandRaptorider
not always true... she complained that despite my liberal tongue lashing, I was splitting her apart... :eek: :devil:

Haha, I know what you mean!

Sometimes afterwards I'm like "I wish I was bigger.."

She just looks over at me with like a horrified look in her eyes "NO!! I already walk funny for a week!!" She can't more than twice a day:( .

Samson
07-22-2004, 08:42 PM
When we first got married, 5 wasn't unusual! :devil:

Samson
07-22-2004, 08:48 PM
We both walked funny! :o

LTandRaptorider
07-22-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Samson
We both walked funny! :o

:eek2:

I don't wanna know...

remember... some places are 'exit' only... :p

Samson
07-22-2004, 09:04 PM
lol! She only wishes she could get revenge! :p

brian-250
07-22-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Samson
lol! She only wishes she could get revenge! :p


Hope she never gets a strap on then.:eek2: :blah: :devil:

Samson
07-22-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by brian-250
Hope she never gets a strap on then.:eek2: :blah: :devil:

I'll keep the lights on and an eye open! lmao! :D

Toadz400
07-22-2004, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Samson
We both walked funny! :o

TOO much information man! You and your wife are into some CRAZY kinky stuff man! Keep that stuff in the bedroom:huh .


When we first got married, 5 wasn't unusual!

The most I've gone is 4, and that was because she was too tired. Now that's what I call endurance!

big-guy
07-22-2004, 10:44 PM
Ok, here is what I see. She has a low self esteem, maybe because of the meds, dunno, and is telling him he can cheat, thinking that if he does, that will just prove (in her mind anyway)she isn't good enough. She prolly isn't cheating, but should get some therapy, like the professional kind, not just exriders. :) Antidepressants are sometimes great, sometimes thay make things worse... there are many out there, a good doctor should be able to help straighten things out.

ewalker302
07-23-2004, 01:04 AM
Is it cheating if your gf brings a girl home and we both sleep with her??

Maybe it's cheating, but sure is fun.

:bandit:

Hammer trx450r
07-23-2004, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
Shes up to something, damn women and there evil jedi mind games!:mad: :mad: :o

She is definatly doing someone else. If you had a hot peice on the side, you would tell her the same thing:p

PHAT400
07-23-2004, 07:15 AM
YES!:o

Pappy
07-23-2004, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by ewalker302
Is it cheating if your gf brings a girl home and we both sleep with her??

Maybe it's cheating, but sure is fun.

:bandit:

my brother thought the same thing, until his wife decided she prefered the taste of clam over hotdog...now they are divorced:eek:

bansheeguy77
07-23-2004, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by big-guy
Ok, here is what I see. She has a low self esteem, maybe because of the meds, dunno, and is telling him he can cheat, thinking that if he does, that will just prove (in her mind anyway)she isn't good enough. She prolly isn't cheating, but should get some therapy, like the professional kind, not just exriders. :) Antidepressants are sometimes great, sometimes thay make things worse... there are many out there, a good doctor should be able to help straighten things out.


that makes sense...my question is this other girl hot? and do you really feel the girl you are with is "the one" cause if not dude go be a man whore until you find the right one.

Samson
07-23-2004, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
my brother thought the same thing, until his wife decided she prefered the taste of clam over hotdog...now they are divorced:eek:

Maybe it's not the hot dogs.

May she just don't like vienna sausages! :p

PHAT400
07-23-2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by bansheeguy77
that makes sense...my question is this other girl hot? and do you really feel the girl you are with is "the one" cause if not dude go be a man whore until you find the right one.

YEAH... GO ON WIT YO BAD SELF AND USE YO MANGINA:huh

Pappy
07-23-2004, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Samson
Maybe it's not the hot dogs.

May she just don't like vienna sausages! :p

im pretty sure a vienna snausage is still longer then a furburger:devil: of course he may not know the proper technique but she obviously does:devil:

400grl
07-23-2004, 10:07 AM
I've heard of that happening alot, actually ( the threesome thing turning into a two-some thing with no guys allowed!) - guys - the threesome thing can be cool, but watch out - there are usually some strange repercussions!!!:huh

wilkin250r
07-23-2004, 10:20 AM
Hmm, with Corry in here, it brings up an interesting situation.

Let's say, hypothetically, that you're wife/girlfriend gives you this "permission" more or less, and the other woman is Corry (or somebody just like her).

400grl
07-23-2004, 10:25 AM
:eek2: HAHAHAHAHA!!! OH NO!!! Ok....what if she looks all nice and everything, and then she turns into the Fatal Attraction lady!!! :eek2: Gotta think about that, too.......how many flings have you guys had where they turn a little "psycho" on you afterwards??? (I'm not psycho.......just something else to think about!!) LOL!!!

400grl
07-23-2004, 10:29 AM
There were several times in my marriage where I got phonecalls from strange girls saying they slept with my husband........sometimes in the middle of the night......one of them was PO'd.....so if he cheated on me with her, he must have dumped her and made her mad...so that was her form of revenge!!! I, of course....being the trusting, naive wifey that I was....believed him, and not them.....he said he didn't know any girls and didn't know why they'd call our house.....must be someone playing a joke......now, of course, in retrospect and being a little older....I am SURE he was messing around, and a couple of them got a little out of hand!!! So...if you ARE going to mess around, I suggest giving them several personality tests and send them in for an evaluation before you even touch them!!!;)

sleestack71
07-23-2004, 10:31 AM
Threesomes rule!

wilkin250r
07-23-2004, 10:36 AM
Corry, from a woman's perspective, do you think the "fatal attraction" is less likely if the guy tells the other woman up front the whole situation? I would imagine that if a girl KNOWS that the guy is married and only looking for sex, she is much less likely to invest any emotions onto their affair. It seems most women aren't angry so much about losing the man as they are about being lied to and decieved, so they seek revenge.

If she knows the situtuation up front, then she certainly isn't going to feel decieved.

400grl
07-23-2004, 10:40 AM
From a women's perspective.......she can say what she wants, and be all mature and understanding....until you sleep with her. Women become VERY attached after sex...most women....it's very rare to find one that just wants to bang and then leaves you in bed with no phone number in the morning! Women are emotional animals......very unlike most men, who can take it or leave it. I'm not speaking for all women...but probably 95% of them.......no matter what they say, no matter how cool they think they can be....things can change in them in an instant. Just something to be wary of.......

wilkin250r
07-23-2004, 10:49 AM
True, I guess the "fatal attraction" is a personality trait, and truth or lying won't erase it, and I should have chosen my words more carefully. I'm not thinking so much of "fatal attraction" as I am thinking "vindictive woman".

How about the "vindictive woman" scenario, which is probably more likely than the fatal attraction? I had a co-worker who recently got involved in this scenario. A guy lies to a girl, tells her he is single. They begin a relationship that the girl feels has a possible future together. She finds out he is married. She is obviously hurt at having been decieved. She is no longer attracted to him, she does not want him back. She just wants him to suffer, to hurt him back. So she calls his wife and spills the beans.

Do you think upfront honesty and truth would eliminate the vindictive woman scenario? The woman might still be attracted to the man, but she certainly isn't going to feel decieved.

dpizz450
07-23-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by 400grl
Women become VERY attached after sex...most women

yes thats so damn true. my ex pretty much stalked me for like 2 months after we broke up

ScrnNmsSUCK
07-23-2004, 10:51 AM
she is testing you
i had the same thing happen to me before.

Samson
07-23-2004, 10:53 AM
Not an expert, but I have been married 12 years. Considering I got married at 19, I think I've beat the odds.

I guess I'm old fashioned but I think you should actually get to know and care about someone before you sleep with them. And if you care about them, you don't betray their trust.

No trust, no relationship.

400grl
07-23-2004, 10:56 AM
Yes....obviously not being lied to and having no false pretenses about things is going to be the best way to go about it......definately! If everyone is onboard and knows the rules and abides by them.....that's just the best for everyone.

Just remember.....one woman is enough to drive most men crazy.....juggling two is just asking for trouble!!! :)

Hey......one more thought just popped into my head. A woman who could be considering divorce could also tell her man to "go ahead - just don't tell me" in hopes that he will do it.....a judge might be MUCH more sympathetic towards the person who was cheated on in a divorce situation - it will also be easier to give a reason to family and friends if that were to happen.....a conniving person could do this and then file for divorce. I just thought of that. Hmmmmmmmmmm

wilkin250r
07-23-2004, 11:03 AM
Certainly something to consider if they were married, but they aren't.

Do you think it is likely that the girl is giving him permission because she suspects he is doing it anyways? It wouldn't make much sense to me, but then most things females say don't make much sense to me.

Pappy
07-23-2004, 11:05 AM
it all could be stemming from her already mentioned depression. sometimes when a depressed person feels like they are getting better, they will work at making things worse. this "worsening" will get them added attention that they seek :o

redroost85
07-23-2004, 11:09 AM
Dang dudes!:eek: Some of you have been down roads I didn't even know existed?!:huh

I must live a pretty secluded life...and I don't out much I guess.:o

I'm glad I'm no wheres near any of this crazy chit....life's too hard as it is. No need throwing a wench..un I mean wrench in to the works, lol!:p

wilkin250r
07-23-2004, 11:10 AM
I'm probably over-thinking the whole situation. (hard to imagine from me, I know) I obviously don't know her exact motive for what she said, and I obviously can't tell him how to react to it. I haven't talked to him about it since he mentioned it the other day, and maybe I don't want to. I wanted to get public opinion on the whole situation, but perhaps I shouldn't bring it up again with my buddy and just let the subject die.

400grl
07-23-2004, 11:11 AM
OH!!! Whoops!!! There goes that thought!! LOL!!!

It could also just be a matter of....this girl knows she's not making her man happy in bed......she's just not up for it.....she knows how men are.....maybe she actually loves him enough that she wants him to be taken care of......and if she's not going to do it.......why can't he get it from somewhere else? That could also be very possible. Let's go with that........now here's something else to think about. She is on prescription drugs...they do make you think differently about things.....the guy should know, inside, that this will hurt his girlfriend (no matter what she says).....so it's pretty much in his hands...it's his responsibility to do what he really feels is best for EVERYONE. She's giving him that opportunity..........it's a hard call to make.

400grl
07-23-2004, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
I'm probably over-thinking the whole situation. (hard to imagine from me, I know) I obviously don't know her exact motive for what she said, and I obviously can't tell him how to react to it. I haven't talked to him about it since he mentioned it the other day, and maybe I don't want to. I wanted to get public opinion on the whole situation, but perhaps I shouldn't bring it up again with my buddy and just let the subject die.

Well....yeah.....that's a really tricky situation - I don't think I'd give ANY advice if I had a friend come at me with that one......that's ALL his!!! Dammed if you do - dammed if you don't type of thing!

wilkin250r
07-23-2004, 11:42 AM
After all this, it sounds much more serious than the conversation he and I had. He wasn't asking for advice, he was simply relating a story. Almost bragging, that his girlfriend gave him permission to sleep around.

So, in reality, I'm not even sure if he has dismissed the whole situation, or if he is seriously contemplating an affair. I'm pretty sure that if he DOES have an affair, he's smart enough to not tell me about it.

400grl
07-23-2004, 11:58 AM
I hate it when I have friends.....and they are married or whatever....and I know that the guy has cheated on his wife.....or vise versa....and they have kids......house...the whole thing!!! I always feel so uncomfortable.....I mean.....yep.....I'd definately rather NOT know!! LOL!!!

Samson
07-23-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by 400grl
.....so it's pretty much in his hands....


Sounds like he really does have it in hand! :o :p

Ralph
07-23-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by 400grl
I hate it when I have friends.....and they are married or whatever....and I know that the guy has cheated on his wife.....or vise versa....and they have kids......house...the whole thing!!!

a dog...

MY450R
07-23-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by 400grl
Yes....obviously not being lied to and having no false pretenses about things is going to be the best way to go about it......definately! If everyone is onboard and knows the rules and abides by them.....that's just the best for everyone.

Just remember.....one woman is enough to drive most men crazy.....juggling two is just asking for trouble!!! :)

Hey......one more thought just popped into my head. A woman who could be considering divorce could also tell her man to "go ahead - just don't tell me" in hopes that he will do it.....a judge might be MUCH more sympathetic towards the person who was cheated on in a divorce situation - it will also be easier to give a reason to family and friends if that were to happen.....a conniving person could do this and then file for divorce. I just thought of that. Hmmmmmmmmmm
wow thats what i do all the time
i tell my wife to go get laid and find a boyfriend all the time so she
will have to go and stay with him instead of me

MY450R
07-23-2004, 01:37 PM
btw weve been married for 6 years now and ive never cheated at all even though there has been plenty of oppurtunities
ive come close but have never stepped over the line
a girl took my hand and brought me to her bedroom and got undressed but i just told her no**sigh**
**baaaannnnggggg** **shot myself in the head**