Broken Frame!

[BSTURDIVANT]

Check your frame- left side main tubing rear side of head mount bracket. Mine was broken all the way around!

[cinigen9]

did it break at the weld just behind the mount or did the tube break?

getting any help from honda?

thanks,
Carson

[atvmx14]

Originally posted by BSTURDIVANT
Check your frame- left side main tubing rear side of head mount bracket. Mine was broken all the way around!

Yup Your right i noticed mine the other day after cleaning it right at the weld i noticed the paint chipped off first then i looked closer!! kinda stinks but under warranty!!

[RobZ_450R]

That is s**ty. I would say to take the quad to the dealer and make the replace it even if you are out of warranty. I think Honda would honor it even if it was out of warranty, especially if you are not racing. I would be extremely po'ed about it. I need to check mine. Gonna have to do it tomorrow.

[Pappy]

i know of atleast 7 other frames that have broke:o but since i was called every name in the book when i posted the yfz frame that broke i aint saying a got damn thing:devil:

[cdalejef]

I know of one that bent pretty bad in the front

[cinigen9]

I wont do any name calling - as a 450r owner I want to know what to lookout for.

where are they breaking at? mx or xc usage?

i hit a fence doing like 35mph & my frame is fine

[TRX45OR]

Im not understanging where your talking about where should i look for the brake???

[atvmx14]

Originally posted by TRX45OR
Im not understanging where your talking about where should i look for the brake???

When your sitting on the bike the left hand side.. you have the frame that runs up along right underneath the gas tank on both sides you will see the top engine mount that runs back and connects to the frame right behind that towards the rear of the quad theres a weld right there!!

[400ex4ever]

Can you get any pic's of the area and break?

[atvmx14]

http://www.gitterdoneracing.com/Images/trx450r1.jpg

[BSTURDIVANT]

My frame has 10 xc races on it

[Scottie Mac]

All stock frames, from every manufacturer, will at one point or another break under normal to hard riding circumstances. I do find it funny though, that all the yahoos that blasted the YFZ for seeing ONE frame break are suddenly silent.

Ummmmm, crow taste good, huh?


Scott

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by Scottie Mac
All stock frames, from every manufacturer, will at one point or another break under normal to hard riding circumstances. I do find it funny though, that all the yahoos that blasted the YFZ for seeing ONE frame break are suddenly silent.

Ummmmm, crow taste good, huh?


Scott One frame is standing the test of time :D

[KYmxracer52]

One frame is standing the test of time


I hear ya!!!!

[Scottie Mac]

Jeff,

I can't argue with that. Maybe the other manufacturers will eventually try to go the alluminum route. Cannondale was before there time. Too bad they didn't have the financial backing of one of the big three. Hopefully ATK will make it.

Scott

[iceracer17]

I'm not impressed with the paint or decals.I use a cheap harbor freight power washer and paint is flaking off,up front by the model/year sticker.Chain adjust decal gone as well as the honda decal behind seat.:(

[rowlrag]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I know of one that bent pretty bad in the front
Shut yer hole :D I know of a little aluminum booger job;)

[BIGBLOCKBILL]

That sucks Brent,I heard about it from your dad. You going to be able to race at the Forest Festival?

[Barely legal]

Everyone went totally off when this happened to the Z400 time and time again, and merely 1 YFZ. Things break on all machines so does this mean Hondas are garbage now too? I love it.
Yummmmmmm, crow!!!! Tastes great, less filling I bet. Now we know who the real manufacturer is and who puts out garbage, or however is was put over the past 2 years.

[CdaleXtreme]

Anyone thats frame has cracked could you state what kind of riding you do, and What <u>major</u> mods you have done to your bike. Like suspension etc. It may help us to get an idea of how and why its happening. Thanks

[RedRaider]

Just checked mine and it was fine.

[popo]

Originally posted by Pappy
i know of atleast 7 other frames that have broke:o but since i was called every name in the book when i posted the yfz frame that broke i aint saying a got damn thing:devil:

I will than..... The alum route is not any better..... my $2,600.00 frame is broke also.

[Lethalhonda2]

my $2,600.00 frame is broke also
Was that the LRD frame? And if it was where did it break?

[popo]

Originally posted by Lethalhonda2
Was that the LRD frame? And if it was where did it break?

Hum here.

[popo]

Another.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by popo
Another.


WOW that SUCKS....did you call LRD and tell them? If so, what did they say? I really am starting to believe every frame will break. I've seen an uncountable amount of broken frames from every manufacturer. Including honda in the past, so I dont know who was talking **** before the 450R came out, or 2 years ago because 400ex frames are junk.

[Seano]

I JUST BOUGHT A BLACK 05. I'K GOING TO PISMO BEACH THIS WEEKEND. I WEIGH 225 AND RIDE PRETTY GOOD I GUESS. DID I BUY A FRAGILE QUAD? I'VE HAD MY CR500 FOR 5 YEARS AND ITS NEVER BROKEN ANYTHING.......BESIDES A FEW LEVERS. SHOULD I NOT JUMP MY NEW HONDA?

[batgeek]

you'll be alright in the dunes :)

anyways, it just looks to be kinda freakish...not like the problem the Z400s had/have.

[twisted threads]

Originally posted by Seano
I JUST BOUGHT A BLACK 05. I'K GOING TO PISMO BEACH THIS WEEKEND. I WEIGH 225 AND RIDE PRETTY GOOD I GUESS. DID I BUY A FRAGILE QUAD? I'VE HAD MY CR500 FOR 5 YEARS AND ITS NEVER BROKEN ANYTHING.......BESIDES A FEW LEVERS. SHOULD I NOT JUMP MY NEW HONDA?
You will be just fine! RIDE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!:macho

[popo]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
WOW that SUCKS....did you call LRD and tell them? If so, what did they say? I really am starting to believe every frame will break. I've seen an uncountable amount of broken frames from every manufacturer. Including honda in the past, so I dont know who was talking **** before the 450R came out, or 2 years ago because 400ex frames are junk.

Yes, it's at LRD to see if they can fix the issue, but starting to get bad vibs talking with their guru and may not be able to repair!

I stated "well start fixing a check in my name"

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by popo
Yes, it's at LRD to see if they can fix the issue, but starting to get bad vibs talking with their guru and may not be able to repair!

I stated "well start fixing a check in my name"



Thats what I would have said too. Just curious, how much did that LRD frame weigh compared to the sock z400 frame?


good luck popo

[BYRD-MAN]

I was lookin to buy a 450r for desert racing. Should i be worried about the frame if i race desert?

[popo]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
Thats what I would have said too. Just curious, how much did that LRD frame weigh compared to the sock z400 frame?


good luck popo

About 7lbs.

[416rider]

I was lookin to buy a 450r for desert racing. Should i be worried about the frame if i race desert?

I not worried because when I ride at plaster city and stuff on their tracks I don't see much stuff to worry about in concern of the frame breaking I was out there on saterday beating the crap out of my 450r and it hasn't cracked at all. I wouldbe concerned if I was going to do hardcore baja racing then I would consider getting frame redone.
:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Originally posted by BYRD-MAN
I was lookin to buy a 450r for desert racing. Should i be worried about the frame if i race desert? no...450r frames are fine

[trick450r]

every frame on the market will break and or bend at one time or another....the 450r is not in any way a fragile quad so buy it and ride it as hard as you can and if it breaks IT BREAKS call up honda they will replace it honda is good about such things!:devil:

[BSTURDIVANT]

I think all frames will eventually crack but good communication in forums like this will help with places to gusset frames for racing conditions. Places like Roush Creek will destroy any frame gusseted or not! We have a spare frame to gusset after evaluating stress areas in the one we're running now.

Honda did evaluate the 400EX frame and gusseted in known problem areas on the 450r This area has never given a problem on the 400. I'm sure Honda will take care of our frame and fix the problem area in the future!

[250rmike]

hey jeff ive cracked my cdale frame:( but its is where the subframe mounts and broke the subframe on the other side. gonna have my uncle weld it cause thats what he does that and machining but yes every type of frame aftermarket or stock will eventually break

[desertratt45]

Originally posted by BYRD-MAN
I was lookin to buy a 450r for desert racing. Should i be worried about the frame if i race desert?

it took us almost 500 miles across the nevada dezert to brake our frame. its broke down by the right foot peg and the sub frame is craked where it bolts the the main frame.

[REDARMYRACER]

stock frames suck, well they don't suck but an aftermarket frame is made to take the abuse better.

yfz frames break

these frames seem to be breaking

z400's break

they all do it's just a matter of how hard u push the machine, weight of the rider, and if the fool working in production missed a bad part or two or three or a thousand!?!

[desertratt45]

so far the only thing i have craked on my yfz after a year of hard racing is the swing arm

[Scottie Mac]

I have seen aftermarket frames break, too. Ask Popo, he will tell you. If you race GNCCs or MX, you will eventually break a frame, whether it is stock frame or aftermarket. Plus, if you constantly case jumps or overjump landings and flat land, well duuuuuuhhhhh, you will break frames.

Scott

[lukester720]

I weigh 260 and my frame is holding up fine SO FAR. I hit jumps and fly around through the wood, I also wreck every once in a while. Besides a few scrapes she's all good. Don't be scared to rip it, she can take a lot of punishment.

[Punk'd]

Originally posted by lukester720
I weigh 260 and my frame is holding up fine SO FAR. I hit jumps and fly around through the wood, I also wreck every once in a while. Besides a few scrapes she's all good. Don't be scared to rip it, she can take a lot of punishment.

Glad to hear it because from what other people are saying was starting to scare me.:eek: I will be getting my 450r the first week of august and im just worryed thats all:blah:

[msthondadude]

I have checked over my frame pretty good since this issue has been brought up. I haven't found any cracks yet. I don't do much jumping, but I do hammer through the woods running over some pretty rough stuff.

[dirtriderex]

I jump my 450r and just last week at a xc race I flipped my quad down a steep hill twice everything broke but the frame and engine.

[416rider]

If your worried don't buy a 450r, if you really want a 450r then man up and get the damn thing and stop crying!!!!!!!:mad: :mad:

[Fred55]

Ive been able to break TWO stock predator frames


http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115290

[Punk'd]

Originally posted by 416rider
If your worried don't buy a 450r, if you really want a 450r then man up and get the damn thing and stop crying!!!!!!!:mad: :mad:

Some people arent RICH and want to get something good for 6499!!! INSTED OF BLOWING IT ON SOMETHING THATS GONNA REQUIRE MORE MONEY IN THE FURTURE (being weak broken parts)

From what I have heard the 450r is a good and strong bike so.. ya

PS thanks for the help

[hondaracer305]

Mine has 2 harescramble races on it, and a wreck over this 90 foot tabletop. not broken.

http://www.freewebs.com/honda_racer305/t-top%20dirtbike%20jump.JPG

[hondaracer305]

Originally posted by Punk'd
Some people arent RICH and want to get something good for 6499!!! INSTED OF BLOWING IT ON SOMETHING THATS GONNA REQUIRE MORE MONEY IN THE FURTURE (being weak broken parts)

From what I have heard the 450r is a good and strong bike so.. ya

PS thanks for the help

Weak isnt in honda's vocabulary lol. check my last post.

[Bretmd94]

I also also jsut beat my frame to death. I have over shot a 45ft step up by 30ft, Ive landed horrable off jumps, I have rolled it in the dunes, etc. I checked my bike over again for the subframe and frame. Im seeing no weak spots at all.

Maybe it had a bad weld at that point. That seems to be a possibility. Otherwise from what i see this frame is holding up better than can ever be expected of it for a MILD STEEL frame.

If you actually chose to buy the yfz over the trx because your worried about reliability of the Honda, your retarded. Almost all stock frames are made of mild steel. They will break. The only quad that i have seen with a frame problem was the first 400z.

my frame is bent

[ZRider400]

Originally posted by Fred55
Ive been able to break TWO stock predator frames


http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115290

damn that sucks:eek2:

so are you going to gusset the next frame you get this time:p