Sundahl Banshee--you see that suspension?!?!

[dawnchris]

You see the latest Dirtwheels with the Sundahl Banshee? Somebody did a BUNCH of R&D with that one. Comments....?

[toomeyshee87]

ya its awesome, but they should put some diff shocks on it!

[Rip_Tear]

anyone mind posting a pic? :D

[JDiablo]

yea ill scan some for you,that thing is sick,it got U-arms,but could get a better suspension then works:rolleyes:

[JDiablo]

here you go

[Rip_Tear]

Looks pretty awsome... I really need to get another subscription to an ATV mag...

[TheFontMaster]

That is one crazy banshee. Another thing to look at is the price of that beast, It had to of cost atleast 25,000 dollars.

[JDiablo]

i got bored so i added it up,a lil over 20 grand for it:eek2: damn

[dawnchris]

I wouldn't be opposed to using the Works shocks. The Pro series from them are nice. ANY quality shock PROPERLY set up will work well. I have AXIS on my 250R, and a set of Pro Series works on a 400EX. I have to say, it took some time, but those Works units seem to work very nicely.
Soooooooo.............back to that bad***** Banshee. The "U" arms cross over each other, with the pivot point on the opposite side of the bike. Makes the arms extra long, for long travel (16in.) without alot of tire scrub. Says the rear has 18in. of travel.

[HiperEX]

i belive the quad is also on trinitys web site since they did the engine work on that

[Juggalo]

somebody posted those pics a loong time ago. probably like 2 years ago. i have been thinking about that setup for a long time. im glad i finally saw it again. thats awesome!

[wilkin250r]

Works Pro series are nice shocks, and they are custom made for the Sundahl frame. I doubt you would get significantly better performance from another shock.

The thing I find amazing is the huge amount of wheel travel on that thing. Something like 16 inches? That's incredible.

The only thing I found odd was that the guy was building himself a dune quad. What in the world do you need 16 inches of wheel travel for on a dune quad? The Sundahl frame would be great for a desert or baja racer, but for a dune quad? It just sounded to me like the guy that built it had more money than he knew what to do with.

[EXJUMPER]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
What in the world do you need 16 inches of wheel travel for on a dune quad? The Sundahl frame would be great for a desert or baja racer, but for a dune quad? It just sounded to me like the guy that built it had more money than he knew what to do with.

Yeah, but think of it this way......Look at all the high dollar sand rails out there. They all have alot of suspension travel and laugh at the rough stuff.

[dawnchris]

Dumont Dunes has some BIG whoops in the valleys. That, and you tend to do alot of jumping at the dunes.
As far as the money part, working at Trinity, and building such a bike, I'm betting he got a load of freebies.
I just wanna race it at Vegas to Reno!!

[cooper505]

ok i have my pics on image station of my sundahl bike but it wont let me post the pics. i'll keep trying

[cooper505]

copy and paste link.

http://www.imagestation.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?id=4174822733&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagestation.com%2Fpicture%2F sraid114%2Fpef844770289460f255a97c8753229dba%2Ff8d 6bd4d.jpg&caption=650%20side

[dawnchris]

No pics there Cooper.

[Daxdon]

Dean Sundahl still makes frames. They are called SRP (Sundahl Racing Performance). X-travel frames are not made by Dean Sundahl. James from X-travel used to spend everyday at Dean's shop and now has obviously started his own company by riping of Dean's design.


if you want a SRP frame made by Dean Sundahl himself and not someone who riped off his design you can reach Dean

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[mc_racer]

Doesn't anyone look at the date anymore?

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by mc_racer
Doesn't anyone look at the date anymore?

A lot of new people dont really do that. It's ok, its still a really cool quad to check out. I have a bunch of up close pics of it as well as a 450R that was built with the same concept.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Daxdon
Dean Sundahl still makes frames. They are called SRP (Sundahl Racing Performance). X-travel frames are not made by Dean Sundahl. James from X-travel used to spend everyday at Dean's shop and now has obviously started his own company by riping of Dean's design.


if you want a SRP frame made by Dean Sundahl himself and not someone who riped off his design you can reach Dean **EDIT**

Just a heads up you may get a warning about this.... IDK, maybe not. Not supposed to advertise here if you're not a paying sponsor. Might be OK since you're just putting up contact info, but hey, not my call.

[Dale512]

400exrider707, Any chance you can post up some of those pics?

[Drewltr450]

this thread is 4 years old

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Drewltr450
this thread is 4 years old

We all know this.... who cares? Its still cool.

Here's some of the pics of teh 450R that was also set up this way, the up close ones of the banshee I think are on my comp at home...

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[QuadJunkies]

I wonder how well it works on the honda .
Looks really tall, a little awkward,but for Desert racing I would be curious.
It looks different. It looks really cool on the Banshee,I remember seeing the video clip of Dean rippin that Shee :macho :macho

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by QuadJunkies
Looks really tall, a little awkward,but for Desert racing I would be curious.

I think that's just kinda how desert racing is.

In MX or especially TT, turning and corners are crucial. 40% of your time is spent in the corners, and probably 80% of your lost time is spent in the turns. A low center of gravity is key to cornering stability and speed.

But desert racing is a different beast. Turning just isn't as important, it's only going to be 3% of your total time. Much more important is the 97% of flat-out, full throttle over washes, ruts, dips, and washboard. You want a tall suspension with LOTS of travel to glide over that garbage at 70mph.

[QuadJunkies]

Oh I know.. we run alot of desert as well....but I cant put my finger on it... just something looks weird about it on the front end on the honda.
Id like to see it in action myself.Looks or not, if it performs I dont care what it looks like as much :p

[Drewltr450]

no front brakes?

[tater_kamik]

huh i didnt notice that, i dont see brake lines or front calipers, just the rotors.

[LTRracer4]

70 - 100 mph over waste deep whoops... I'd cherish my nerfs more:ermm:

[rollie]

i remember seeing a picture of a 450R with a similar front end in last years baja 1000 report on this site, the front end didnt make it though the whole race though, still looks cool!

[400exrider707]

I'm not sure why companies dont embrace the U-arm design. It is very good at keeping track width, something a standard front end does not.

I guess feasibility just isn't there. Heavy frame modifications would have to be made.

Still a cool idea...

[rustyATV]

Originally posted by QuadJunkies
Oh I know.. we run alot of desert as well....but I cant put my finger on it... just something looks weird about it on the front end on the honda.

It's probably because the A-arm pivots are not parallel, the are "Leading Arms", not straight a-arms. They give a little fore-aft compliance for high speed hits.


Originally posted by 400exrider707
I'm not sure why companies dont embrace the U-arm design. It is very good at keeping track width, something a standard front end does not.

By "U-arm" do you mean having the front arms cross each other, like with Dean's Banshee? The downside for long arms is the chassis reacts more slowly than with shorter arms, if I recall reading correctly.