Pics of quad rate Elka's

[cdalejef]

I have the pics of the quad rate Elka's and Houser long travel +1 a-arms if someone can tell me how to post them on here. They are stored in Image Station.

[Leo]

Jeff,

On the bottom of the post/reply screen there is an 'attach file' option.. All you need to do is click on the 'browse' button, and you can select the pics on your PC, when you click submit they will automatically be uploaded to the forums.

Or you can just email me the pic and I'll gladly post it for you.

Leo

[Nausty]

I wanna see a pic of these quad rates:D Give me the link to imagestation and I will post it. if it is on imagestation though is all you gotta do is right click on the picture and go to the properties and then copy the URL and paste the url here and we will have to copy and paste it onto the top because imagestation won't host for other web sites.

[cdalejef]

Man, thats to easy! Thanks Leo.
Here are the new Elka quad rate long travel shocks.

[Nausty]

:eek: how much are they gonna cost?

[cdalejef]

Here is a pic with the Houser +1 a-arms. The old triple rate shock is on the right and the quad rate is on the left.

[cdalejef]

Quad rate.

[cdalejef]

Nausty, they retail for $1050. Same as the price of the old triple rate long travel.

[Tommy 17]

wow!!! thats some aweosme shocks 4 rates thats gotta be impossible to bottom out!!!!

[Guy400]

Jeff, isn't it a little dangerous riding without the upper shock bolt in place? :D

[Nausty]

oh I was just curious. look pretty nice.

[cdalejef]

400ex21, not impossible to bottom out. If they were, they would be way to stiff.

Guy, I live dangerously!!! :D

[smokin01'400]

man..i would have to sell my quad to get money to buy them things:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :devil

[NacsRacing400]

Im buying a set with houser +2 a-arms real soon, Thats the first I saw a picture of them and now i really am in a hurry to get the rest of the money. Ill have to get my rear converted so Jeff, how long will it take from when i send it out to when i get my rear shock back if i send it to you guys? Email me a jcman88077@aol.com, thanks

[cdalejef]

It takes 1-3 days from when we receive your shock to the time we ship it out unless we run out of spring kits. We have a few left now with more on the way.

[NacsRacing400]

So do you think it would be possible that when im ready to do this i can get it overnighted to you on a monday and you overnight it back to me so i have it back for that weekends race? This would be great because it would save me from buying a spare shock.

[cdalejef]

Sure, just let me know in advance so I can save a spring kit for you.

[Foxrage]

Those are sweet!!! can i get a package deal and still have the 5% ontop of that? I want houser Long Travel +2. with Chrome Top.

[NacsRacing400]

Ill give you a call in a few weeks. I think im going to be buying alot more than just that off of you just because of how fast you anwser my questions and you seem like a nice guy, unlike some other companys. So thanks for everything.

[cdalejef]

Sounds good! The a-arms from Houser are running about 2-3 weeks behind right now. So take that into consideration.

[Wingnut]

Those are pretty cool. The reason bought the dual rates instead of the tripple rate shocks is that when I thought about it the tripple rates are really single rate. But with these shocks, Elka has that fixed.

[cdalejef]

What do you mean Wingnut?

[Wingnut]

Well, according to Elka, the tripple rates use SSD spring, that spring should bottom out while riding so it does not do much good for trail riding. Then you have the spring thats purpose is to help in preventing the shock from bottoming out, so that spring would be extrememly stiff, again does not do much good for trail riding. Then that leaves the third spring to do all the work. Atleast that makes sense to me, I could be wrong. But, doesn't Elka recommend the dual rate for trail riding anyway.

[cdalejef]

On a triple rate shock the main spring is a dual rate spring and the second spring is lighter, it gets used up first for soaking up small stuff, then you have the SSD.

[Wingnut]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
On a triple rate shock the main spring is a dual rate spring

How does that work? Is the spring wound tighter at one end, or does the metal get thicker, or what? I am happy with my dual rates, I have not regretted getting them once, and I am proud to be one of the few people who owns a set. I would almost be willing to bet that these dual rates can be adjusted to sit as low as any SSD type shock.

[cdalejef]

Humm, you stumped me. I'll have to ask Marty on that one. Glad you like your shocks. The only thing about making yours sit lower like an SSD is you have to soften them with the preload ring to do it. With an SSD spring you keep the ride the same.

Hey jeff since I live up the street from ya and I got me some +1 houser arms,,,you want me to test them shocks out real good for ya on a MX track and right up a review??? :D :D :D (I'll keep my fingers crossed until you reply):eek:

[cdalejef]

Rico, are your fingers cramping yet? :devil Do you have long travel a-arms?

[330exracer]

hey jeff wanna send me those quad rate and houser for real cheap and i put a **** load of quad shop stickers on my bike nd promote u?

[cdalejef]

Well I would but.....too bad they don't fit a 300! :blah

[330exracer]

to bad ill make them fit i can make a mount kit any day.

[cdalejef]

Hmmmm.....I guess I'll have to make some new mounts so your 300ex a-arms will fit my R. :p

[330exracer]

o well worth a shot right? but i still wouldn't mind u doin this.

[cdalejef]

Damn, I'm running out of excuses.

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Rico, are your fingers cramping yet? :devil Do you have long travel a-arms?


dang I been holding my breath too,,,ya tryin ta kill me or what???

I've got just the basic +1 wide and +1/2 forward,,not long travel couldn't afford the long travel at the time.

PS I wanna ride out to your shop next week after work,,can I head that way after 5:00???

[cdalejef]

Tell ya what Rico, how about you take mine out for a spin.

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Tell ya what Rico, how about you take mine out for a spin.

:eek: And you have a pissed off 250R correct??? :D :D :D :D :D

[Tommy 17]

o god everyone look out ricos gettin on the a decked out 250r!!!!!!!!!!! haha j.p

Yeah I'm sure Jeff will be asking to hold my credit card as I go to sit down and kick it over....:D :D

[cdalejef]

I was being serious. My R isn't that great, just the suspension setup.

I guess we'll find out when I get there,,what time after 5:00 can I show up??

[cdalejef]

Were open till 6 but 9 times out of 10 I am here later than that. Give me a call before you head over and I'll be sure to wait on you. The only night I can't stay late is monday nights.

[Dave400ex]

Those Shocks are Sweet. Man if we go to Kentucky this Summer I will have to make sure I come by and Ride some Quads.

hey, what gives? Those shocks look just like mine. Maybe Elka slipped me the new stuff and didnt say squish about it? I dunno, but my new front shocks got 4 springs on 'em just like those.

[Nausty]

sure it doesn't have to do with the ssd? fatboyracing

[Tommy 17]

man u may have the newest shock on the market, possibly the best and didn't even know it!!!!:D

[Dave400ex]

FatBoy you are Lucky. Elka may not even know they Sent you Quad Rate Shocks. Do you have any Pictures?

[Blackguywithouta400]

Well i just finished doing the leg work for one of my best friends who rides a raptor. I got him to call Marty today and order the Houser Long Travel Plus 3 19" shock a arms with YZ blue and chrome tops, along with the Elka Quad rate long travel shocks. he also got the rear rebuild and brake lines his total was like
2100$ We cant wait to get them here and install the parts. Thanks Jeff and Marty for great service, and I hope Jeff's finger gets better he should stop hurting himself. This Raptor is going to be hard to beat now on the track im going to have to order the same setup. For my 400ex

[Dave400ex]

Wow. That is going to be one Bad Raptor. Marty has a Raptor a lot like that. It is Sweet. Post Pictures when it`s all together. You should get the same Setup for your 400EX.

[cdalejef]

If you got them within the last month then they will be quad rate!

[Dave400ex]

Jeff, How much better are the Quad Rates then the Triple Rates?

[cdalejef]

They seem to soak up the small stuff better. Bottoming resistance didn't change much.

[trx400ex]

jeff, what would be the best front suspension for my banshee, both aarms and shocks? do they make long travel units for banshees? its for mx, thanks

[cdalejef]

trx400ex, I don't think anyone makes long travels for Banshee's (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I would go with LoneStar, no matter how wide you go make sure you get +1 foreward. It makes them steer much better. As for shocks, I would go with Elka dual rates.

[trx400ex]

thanks, if i put the 1 inch forwards in the front should i do anything with the rear end? and can you rebuild rear banshee shocks?

[Guy400]

Originally posted by trx400ex
thanks, if i put the 1 inch forwards in the front should i do anything with the rear end? and can you rebuild rear banshee shocks? I personally would leave the rear end alone. The swingarm is already pretty long and anymore added length and you'd be hurting your cornering. The Shee's wheelbase is like 50.4" so I wouldn't add length unless your building a hill shooter or drag bike.

Yes, the rear shock is rebuildable.

[cdalejef]

Like Guy said, leave the rear end alone for trail, XC, or MX. You can rebuild the rear shock!

[trx400ex]

i didnt know if i was supposed to get a shorter swingarm or not .....i want to get a round housing one anyway

[Dave400ex]

Jeff, Thanks for the Info. The Quad Rates are only Long Travel right?

TRX400EX, I would get Laeger A-Arms and some Elka Triple Rate Fronts. You could get the Suspension Setup I have in my Signature. I would go with Laeger though.

[cdalejef]

Yes, long travel only for now.

[trx400ex]

i bet i will end up going with laeger, i would really like a roll design front end, but for what they want i could buy a lot of lager parts....i just dont know about the shocks..i have a while to decide anyway...:)

[rowlrag]

mines faster than Jeff's, Marty is my pal. Jokes aside the guys at the Quadshop are some of the finest people I've dealt with in a long time. My 250r has the new elka Quad rates with piggybacks and the Houser lower arms just like Jeffs. I'm very new to atv's about two months now, rode bikes for years, and the suspension on this thing is every bit as good if not better than my fully Race Tech modified YZF250 for the woods. I really can't see it getting any better than the Elkas and longer arms unless it was air ride. Thanks again Marty and Jeff for everthing you guys have helped me with!

[Dave400ex]

I wish you could get the Quad Rates for Stock Travel.

TRX400EX, Go with Laeger. You will be Happy. If you don`t get Elka Shocks, I would get PEP ZPS. They are the Best you are going to get for MX Racing.

[cdalejef]

:( everybody's quad is faster than mine! sniff sniff :(

[Dave400ex]

They won`t be after you get that CRF Running.

[trx400ex]

Originally posted by WarriorMan
I wish you could get the Quad Rates for Stock Travel.

TRX400EX, Go with Laeger. You will be Happy. If you don`t get Elka Shocks, I would get PEP ZPS. They are the Best you are going to get for MX Racing.
i dont think pep makes banshee zps shocks, but im not sure,,,, now that i think about it, i heard that laegers uses cheap ball joints....oh well there probably tougher than my burgards...i might even go with lonestar, who knows

[cdalejef]

Warriorman, :devil I KNOW....HEHEHEHE:devil

[Dave400ex]

TRX400EX, I just Checked Advanced ATV and they had PEP ZPS Front and Rear Shocks for a Banshee. I think Baldwin has them on his Site too. 400MXer said Laeger updated the Ball Joints. Even though I have heard about Laeger using Cheap Ball Joints, I have never heard of them Breaking. Well I don`t like Lonestar, so I would not get them. I think they are Way over Priced and are not very Good. I would go with Laeger or Walsh.

Jeff, They won`t be Laughing anymore.

[Foxrage]

Ya that CRF willl tare everyone up but it still doesnt matter how fast its just whos the better rider.

[Dave400ex]

I think the CRF will be a Sweet Quad. Have you ordered your Houser Frame Jeff?

[cdalejef]

Ya, we ordered it in January. We were 18th in line at the time.

[400MXer]

Laeger did update their balljoints, but even if you got the laegers witht he old ball joints..you won't have much trouble with it....my buddy has some with the old balljoints and he races MX and hasn't had a problem yet. But i got the updated balljoints on mine.

I would soooooo love to be able to build a yz426 or a crf450 quad...that would be a dream....i love 4 strokes, but if i even want to step up my quad i'll have to buy an R, because they wont cost me $23g's to build.

[Dave400ex]

Wow. 18th for a CRF Frame? That means there is going to be a lot of CRF`s out there some where.

[rowlrag]

Ill always have a faster Quad than Jeff! When he goes CRF, I'll go YZF!

[Foxrage]

Rowlrag the CRF is going to eat the yzf alive!!! J/K Your just luckyy enough to actually get one i will never even ride one or see one besides at races unlees i go to houser since they are only about an hour away.

Originally posted by WarriorMan
FatBoy you are Lucky. Elka may not even know they Sent you Quad Rate Shocks. Do you have any Pictures?

I've failed repeatedly at getting pictures up, and for that I apologize. I am going out to the property tomorrow, and I will be sure to take some so they can be posted here. My company just started a huge push for sales this month, so tomorrow may be the last chance I get to ride until May, so I don't want to miss out on tomorrow. I'll make sure to get pics and post them.

[Dave400ex]

Yeah the CRF will Eat the YZF. You could Build a KTM 520 though. Nacs I would be going to Houser if I were you. Maybe you can Ride the CRF or YZF.

FatBoy, We will tell you about the Shocks when the Pictures are Posted. I really want to see the Front End. I`m sure it is Sweet. I would be Riding all I could if you can`t again until May. That is a Long Time. We will be Waiting for the Pictures.

[Foxrage]

Im going pro and nacs is sponcering me with the CRF in a laeger t pin.

[Dave400ex]

I am going Pro and I will be Riding a Walsh, PEP, RPM, TC, CRF440.

Okay, finall got pics. Here are my possibly quad-rate shocks. I see 4 springs. The pic is fuzzy, but you get the idea.

Jeff, do I need to change my sig?

[Dave400ex]

That looks Sweet. I think I see Four too. Jeff, help us Out.

[cdalejef]

Yep FatBoy....change your cig, you have quad rates. If you loose the little black plugs on the bottom arms, give me a call I have plugs that will not fall out! I lost 3 of mine in the first race. Haven't lost any of the new ones.

[Dave400ex]

What are the Plugs for? To keep Water, Dirt, and Mud out?

[mrusk]

Guys i am sorry to let you down but no CRF is going to eat a yzf440 alive. It just aint going to happen. Talk to Tim Farr. If you didnt know he ran the his CRF laegers at Macon and totally got smoked. It was underpowered.

How many of you guys have acctually seen a Walsh frame or any walsh componet in person? I find it funny how you guys talk about them with out ever seeing them.

matt

[Dave400ex]

A CRF will not Eat a YZ440. We said a 426. The 440`s have more Motor Mods done to them. Tim`s CRF only has a Different Piston as far as I know. He could Mod the Engine like the YZ440 and it should Beat it Good. If the CRF Sucks so Bad, then why did Tim Finish Second Overall?

I have seen the Walsh Frames at Red Bud. Digger has one. They are very Nice. Duncan has a Complete Roll Design Setup in front of their Trailer. Now that was Sweet. There was also Laeger, Arens, and Lonestar Frames there.

[cdalejef]

Plugs keep mud out.
I have ridden both bikes, The CRF has a broader harder pulling powerband and the YZF is snappier (more hit). Either bike will be competive in the pro class.

i got a 426 in my garage right now. it one raw *** motor. the 450 has less of a hit aswell as the ktm 520. all you honda biased people are dumb.i would take the 450 over the yamaha cause it's smoother and it would be easier to ride. and i mrusk..i'm getting tierd of hearing these kids talk of getting full aftermarket bike when the damn know they ain't gonna and don't need it.

Cool ! I got an upgrade without writing another check! Woohoo!!! :D

[Dave400ex]

Man what is your Guys Problems. Everybody on here can talk about whatever they want. Just because we want a CRF450 or YZ426 doesn`t mean we are going to go Build one. It is just a Dream. None of you Guys need a Full Out Race Quad either, but you can`t say you don`t talk about having one. Everybody would like to have a Pro Quad.

[Foxrage]

Fatboy i like that setup if i dont get enough for the setup i want im going to get that setup exactly like yours.

[Dave400ex]

NACS, That is a Sweet Setup. I would go with that if you can`t get Walsh or there is a Long Wait.

[trx400ex]

hey jeff,

do you know if houser is ever going to make any kind of banshee long travel aarms?, i wish i would have waited and got those 19 inchers on my 400ex

[Jekyl_22]

How wide are the long travel a-arms for 19" Fronts?

[trx400ex]

can get them anywhere from plus one to plus 3

[cdalejef]

TRX400EX, I'll ask Houser on the Banshee a-arm question.
LRD TRX416EX, are you telling me I don't need an after market chassis?

[JEFF8400EX]

jeff what is the best price you can do on elka triple rates ssd piggy back res adj comp only and convert the back stock shock.

[cdalejef]

JEFF8400EX....you have PMS.....urrrr....I mean PM:p

[Dave400ex]

Jeff, Don`t listen to LRD. I don`t know why these Guys have Problems with us wanting a Quad that is Nice even if we don`t need it.

[trx400ex]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
TRX400EX, I'll ask Houser on the Banshee a-arm question.
LRD TRX416EX, are you telling me I don't need an after market chassis?
thanks, i hope he makes them, long travel is easy to find for the 250r and 400ex, but no one makes them for banshees, except doug roll,so i think if houser offerd them he would get alot of buyers

[Dave400ex]

TRX400EX, Are you going to Mod the Banshee Now?

[trx400ex]

yes i plan to, i have started, so far i got grooved radials, turtamers, 8x8 beadlocks, lrd chrome pipes, trinity manifold kit with single 33 mm carb, lonestar plus 3 axle, ac propegs,and a kill switch....i havent got the 2 into 1 carb thingy yet, but it already makes loades of power, so now its time to start spending on the chassis, and thats were the real fun begins, and the real $$$:(

sorry for all that banshee stuff guys;)

[Foxrage]

Man you have done alot to your shee do you have any pics?

[Dave400ex]

The Chassis is the FUn Part. Making it really Wide and Sit Low is the Cool Part. Do you have any Pictures of the LRD Pipes?

[trx400ex]

i will have pics up on sunday, after i get it all washed up from the trip

[trx400ex]

my pipes,, this was taken a last week

[Dave400ex]

Well that looks Nice. I`ll see you there Tomorrow. Adams44 will also be there.

[Foxrage]

I wish i could go but my mom had to go out of town this weekend. Nice pipes i dont like the turn down thing in my opinion.

[flying400ex]

Jeff,

How much for Houser long travel +2 arms with the elka quad rates, brake lines, and a lonstar +4 axel? Let me get this straight, if I send you my stock rear shock you can rebuild it and it will work like a aftermarket shock or is it better just to buy a whole new aftermarket rear shock?

[cdalejef]

flying400ex, Give me a shout monday at the shop and I can work you up a package deal. The MacDaddy conversion is a great setup, we do about 30 of those for every one Elka rear shock. The only way I think you would need the Elka rear is if you are a very aggressive racer like in the Pro or A class.

[Dave400ex]

NACS, The Badlands would be a Far Drive for you.

Flying400ex, I would Call Jeff. He can get you a Good Deal.

[Foxrage]

Ya but o well why didnt you guys go to LBL? So did you go and see trx400ex there. I get to go anywhere i want to ride soon because my mom spent a whole weekend with my sister at her cheerleading comp.

[Dave400ex]

We have had this Badlands Ride planned since December. I didn`t see TRX400EX there. I think my Brother did. I looked for a Banshee with LRD Pipes and a Yellow MX 400ex and didn`t see anything. I rode with Adams44 some. Those Guys are Nuts. I`m not sure what I did to my Thumb and my other Finger. I hope they aren`t Broke. Rather then that it was Fun.

[Foxrage]

Sounds sweet i would of liked to here your TC. I want a complete pipe that y im going with sparks.

[400MXer]

yeah...the sparks pipe is nice...i was a completely polished one at the dunes last year.

[Dave400ex]

Yeah I think I was one of the Loudest 400ex`s there. I know mine was Louder then Adams44. He has a Sparks Pipe. You will like the Sparks.

[Foxrage]

did he let you take it for a spin??

[Dave400ex]

No I didn`t Ride it. I thought about Asking, but if he didn`t Care he would of asked me if I wanted to Ride it. You know what I`m Saying?

[monkeynuts]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
trx400ex, I don't think anyone makes long travels for Banshee's (someone correct me if I'm wrong). .

They do make a Lobo II kit for the banshee, raptor, 400ex, and 250r (according to Duncan). you can see a pic on the banshee at:

http://www.duncanracing.com/images/parts/zooms/big-bansheelobofront.jpg

[trx400ex]

Originally posted by WarriorMan
We have had this Badlands Ride planned since December. I didn`t see TRX400EX there. I think my Brother did. I looked for a Banshee with LRD Pipes and a Yellow MX 400ex and didn`t see anything. I rode with Adams44 some. Those Guys are Nuts. I`m not sure what I did to my Thumb and my other Finger. I hope they aren`t Broke. Rather then that it was Fun.
your brother didnt see me because i didnt end up gettign to go... i will next time though....was a good day

[Dave400ex]

Well we were going to go Again this Saturday, but I have a Track Meet.

[Foxrage]

If you go anytime soon ill try to come.

[Dave400ex]

I`m not sure when we will Go. We are not going this Weekend. We don`t have a Trailer anymore. I think we will go in May. You will have to Come.

[Foxrage]

By then i should have some stuff

[Dave400ex]

Well I won`t. It will be a while before I can Buy some Elka`s.