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310Rduner
06-15-2004, 03:05 AM
First off, here is the site that everything is coming from.

http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com

Just something to think about, and how much you should be thankful for capitolism.The figures are all due to a choice of philosophy the governments decided to follow. Capitolism is distinctly absent from those countries.. hmmm maybe there is something to that....

Here is the sites description of the figures: The table to the right should be enough to convince anyone of the seriousness and the impact of philosophy. The governments founded on the most evil of the ethics, such as altruism and collectivism, are the bloodiest. And this chart doesn't include the blood of the Dark Age theocracies with their inquisitions and holy wars.

People Killed Government Years
61,911,000 U.S.S.R. 1917-87
35,236,000 China (PRC) 1949-87
20,946,000 Germany 1933-45
10,075,000 China (KMT) 1928-49
5,964,000 Japan 1936-45
3,466,000 China (Mao Soviets) 1923-49
2,035,000 Cambodia 1975-79
1,883,000 Turkey 1909-18
1,670,000 Vietnam 1945-87
1,663,000 North Korea 1948-87
1,585,000 Poland 1945-48
1,503,000 Pakistan 1958-87
1,417,000 Mexico 1900-20
1,072,000 Yugoslavia (Tito) 1944-87
1,066,000 Russia 1900-17
910,000 China (Warlords) 1917-49
878,000 Turkey (Ataturk) 1919-23
816,000 United Kingdom 1900-87
741,000 Portugal (Dictatorship) 1926-82
729,000 Indonesia 1965-87
13,637,000 Others 1900-87

310Rduner
06-15-2004, 03:11 AM
I highly recommend browsing that site, specifically, this part of it: http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/index.html?http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Fiction_AtlasShrugged.html

It is amazing how much it covers, and how the things it covers are used it daily life to try and persuade you to do something. I think anyone who reads it will take a second look at the things people try and claim are evil, or incorrect.. when in fact they are the ones following the evil path of ideas. The best part? It all revolves simply around Reason. Reason, and rationality are basically to thank for everything good in the world, and on the other side you have irrationality at the root of all evil:)

batgeek
06-15-2004, 03:23 AM
grrr! you post that on my way out the door :(

i'll get back to this thread when i get back to work tonite...if it isn't locked hehe :)

310Rduner
06-15-2004, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by batgeek
grrr! you post that on my way out the door :(

i'll get back to this thread when i get back to work tonite...if it isn't locked hehe :)

I know what you mean. I always feel like the things I kind of discover while trying to learn things are too abundant. Like I will find a great kind of philosophy that I think makes sense.. and there are so many tons of pages I want to read on it. Then at the same time I find somehting else that holds my attention.. and I feel like I need to learn about that. There aren't enough hours in the day (That i can stay awake for) to read all the things I want to read. I always feel like if I just keep looking a little longer, I'll find that next great idea, or philosophy, or anything. So much stuff out there I want to learn at the same time.. and it always feels like time is running against me (which it is of course :mad: ).

That's why I like these kinds of threads and posts, it's a sort of shortcut on the time spent finding something, and gets straight to having discovered it.

Hmm.. that's what I should do.. start a thread of things that rock. Books.. ideas, websites... hmmm....:D

06-15-2004, 06:14 AM
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