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03-25-2002, 07:13 AM
Hey everyone I just put in a complete Hinson 8 plate clutch kit for my 400. It uses stock 250R plates and fibers. They are thinner than the 400EX. Is this what the others places are calling their upgrade. I love my setup, but could I have saved a lot of money just buying the 250R plates and fibers? Just wandered what you think.

G. Money
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 08:37 AM
What all Comes in the Kit?
03-25-2002, 08:43 AM
The Hinson set up requires the purchase of a Hinson basket, inner hub and pressure plate. It is expensive. The basket is about $200, pressure plate and inner hub $400. Then you spend about $120 for the fibers and plates. It is supposed to be the best. Baldwins said the use it in their machines. I haven't really had a good chance to try it out yet. Only time will tell.
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 08:53 AM
That`s what my Brother has on his 250r. It is Sweet. That is by far the Best Setup. Did you get it from Baldwin?
03-25-2002, 09:07 AM
NO I bought the basket from Rocky Mountain ATV. It was the cheapest. I believe it is $189. I bought the others in one set from NAC's. It was just over $400. Baldwins does carry it, but you might be able to find it somewhere cheaper. Just look on the net.
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 09:17 AM
Where did you get the 250r Plates and Fibers? I think I want a Setup like this when I Mod my Motor.
03-25-2002, 12:37 PM
Local Dealer
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 01:31 PM
OK, Thanks. That sounds like a Very Nice Setup.
86atc250r
03-25-2002, 02:21 PM
As far as I know you can't just throw in 250R plates into a stock basket.

Places like GT Thunder offer an 8 plate kit using OEM parts, but they have done some machine work to the inner basket to make it all work. They sell their complete kit for just over $200 which includes new plates, the machined basket, and springs.

Seems like there are others doing 8-plate kits using XR250 fibers & steels and maybe some sort of spacer setup, but I've not been able to verify the exact requirements pertaining to the spacer.
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 04:10 PM
Gabe, He got the Complete Hinson 8 Plate Setup. I just wanted to know what everything Costed. I think I`m going to go with the Clutch Setup ChadEXer is getting from TC. It sounds Good and is not as Expensive as the others.
86atc250r
03-25-2002, 04:13 PM
Yeah, I know, he mentioned just using 250R stuff though & I wanted to add what I know about the subject....
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 04:31 PM
Ok. Thanks for the Extra Info. Isn`t your Clutch still all Stock?
86atc250r
03-25-2002, 04:40 PM
Yep, but I'm getting ready to do the GT Thunder 8 plate conversion & have been studying up on my options - my stock clutch is finally starting to lose it's crispness...
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 04:42 PM
What all is in the GT Thunder Setup?
86atc250r
03-25-2002, 04:46 PM
It's in my first reply, but...

8 new fiber plates
7 new steel plates
new springs
new inner hub with machine work done
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 05:16 PM
Sorry about that. I saw that Post now. That sounds like a Good Setup. Are you going to get a Different Basket?
86atc250r
03-25-2002, 05:19 PM
I'm just going to use the stock basket for now if it's not worn...
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 05:38 PM
If I do my Clutch I just want to go ahead and get a Hinson Basket.
Sandragggen
03-25-2002, 06:44 PM
GT Thunder 8 plate conversion kit. Note that GT recommends replacing basket once a year. http://www.geocities.com/~gtthunder/cat6set.html

Jay
Dave400ex
03-25-2002, 06:58 PM
Even the Hinson Clutch Basket?
86atc250r
03-25-2002, 09:52 PM
If you are going to do the Hinson basket, then just do their 8 plate setup....
Dave400ex
03-26-2002, 07:48 AM
TC has his own Clutch Setup that he uses a Hinson Basket for. I think that`s what I want to do.
ChadEXer
03-26-2002, 09:23 AM
Thats what hes doing for me,,,Just waitin to hear from Warriorman to see what exactly he will do!
Dave400ex
03-26-2002, 09:34 AM
Chad, I have to go Shovel the DriveWay, and when I come Back In I am going to try and Call TC again.
ChadEXer
03-26-2002, 10:21 AM
No hurry!! just let me know
Dave400ex
03-26-2002, 12:03 PM
I will as Soon as I get off the Phone with Tom.
250Xtreame
03-26-2002, 01:42 PM
i no the basics of quads, but im not sure what an 8 plate upgrade does. could you guys explain this to me?
thanks
Dave400ex
03-26-2002, 01:49 PM
It adds an Extra Friction and Metal Plate. So instead of the Stock 7 Friction Plates and 6 Metal Plates, you would now have 8 Friction Plates and 7 Metal Plates.
03-26-2002, 02:01 PM
YOu get the power your lookin for quicker I guess you could say,,the clutch pull seems a little stiffer,,but the bike feels like it's getting the power delivery to the wheels quicker,,no clutch slippage I guess you could say,,,the clutch feels like it's engaging faster, smoother, and delivers the power sooner..There's no doubt I'll be goin with a 8 plate setup when it's time...
Dave400ex
03-26-2002, 02:04 PM
Rico, Are you going to get the Complete Hinson Setup?
250Xtreame
03-26-2002, 06:18 PM
man you guys know everything.!!!
thanks
Dave400ex
03-26-2002, 07:23 PM
We try to Help Guys out.
03-27-2002, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by WarriorMan
Rico, Are you going to get the Complete Hinson Setup?

Don't know yet,,,hinson products are sweet,,but the price on the GT thunder setup looks a little more pleasing to my bank account.
Dave400ex
03-27-2002, 05:00 PM
Yeah I want to Find out the Prices for the TC Setup. I will have to Wait until Friday to Call Tom because of Track Practice.
ChadEXer
03-28-2002, 08:33 AM
Hinson stuff is expensive!! Clutch basket costs over $200. Thats crazy. I hope Toms setup is good!!!
Dave400ex
03-28-2002, 05:30 PM
Yes Hinson Stuff is very Expensive, but you get the Best there is. It`s just like with Walsh. It`s the Most Expensive, but you are getting the Best. I think Tom`s Setup will be very Good. I will let you know on the TC Stuff Friday.
ChadEXer
03-28-2002, 06:02 PM
Dang it. i just sent you a PM about our conversation. We got so far into talking about the 505 and lectrons that i forgot to ask him about the clutch!!!
Dave400ex
03-28-2002, 06:32 PM
Yeah I got the PM. I will ask Tom about the Clutch.
ChadEXer
03-29-2002, 07:30 AM
Cool. I cant believe he was there so late last night. His machine says he closes at like 5. he was still there at 8!!
03-29-2002, 08:56 AM
Chad I'm pretty dang positive Tom will be hooking you up with the 8 plate kit,,he did my buddies national motor,,so I'm sure he'll be doing it to yours also..and it was all hinson,,of course.
Dave400ex
03-29-2002, 10:07 AM
Chad, I called last night at 5:30 and he didn`t Answer. Maybe he was Working on your Motor. LOL.

Rico, I hope to Find out for sure Today.
03-29-2002, 10:53 AM
I'm pretty positive he'll upgrade the clutch too,,especially for the amount of money chad's dishin out..

I know one thing,,,I got a brand new Bill thunder pipe sittin here on my desk,,and it'll be 5 hours before I can put it on..:( It's killin me..nice lookin pipe though..:D
Dave400ex
03-29-2002, 10:58 AM
Rico, Chad knows TC is doing the Clutch, but he is not sure what all TC is doing. That`s what I want to Find out.

Let us know how the Pipe Works.
ChadEXer
03-29-2002, 06:17 PM
Yeah i forgot AGAIN to ask him about the clutch. i remember him saying something about hinson now that you say that because i told him that I had already bought a Hinson basket and he told me to ship it to him and i did. All Hinson would be awesome!!! But like Rico says. For all that $$$ it should be the best!! But in al honesty Tom is the cheapest. he is doing the 505 for $2500 plus another $300 for his pipe. thats is including carb and clutch and everything. FST wanted the same price with no carb or pipe!!
Dave400ex
03-29-2002, 08:50 PM
Well I`m sure the Clutch will be Good no matter what Tom does. I just want to know what he does. Tom is a little Cheaper then some of the other Builders.
ChadEXer
04-02-2002, 08:29 AM
He is definately cheaper than the others!
Dave400ex
04-02-2002, 09:20 AM
Yeah. The Clutch depends on how much HorsePower you have. He said up to 35HP I could run the Stock Clutch. Tom said any More HP then that you would want to get a Hinson Basket, New Stock Plates, and Heavy Duty Springs. I think for Chad`s 505 it will be the Complete Hinson Setup.
ChadEXer
04-02-2002, 09:27 AM
:D Awesome
Dave400ex
04-02-2002, 09:28 AM
Yeah, Tom thinks you are MX Racing for some Reason.