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Out_Sider
06-13-2004, 06:25 PM
anyone think that the cc rules should go to 350cc's to allow warriors and big bore 300's to race? i have the 330 kit on my 300ex, and if i ever go to a national, i'll get a legal size bore. but does anyone think that they should go to 350cc 4 stroke and 240cc 2 stroke? Give all opinions. I personally like the rules as they are now, but im sure other 330 owners would like to allow the cc's to be bumped up.

roostin_dale
06-13-2004, 06:53 PM
I think it should be bumped up also. My 250x has a 298 stroker...it just seams sooo slow and small compared to my other, bigger quads....

But next year I will be able to race my bigger quads, so I guess I only have to put up with this for another half of a year... I will live

tprender
06-13-2004, 07:56 PM
The rule at the GNC races is set at 300cc for the production class is so that it is the same as the other class. We are hoping that in the future the 2 classes might be run together "if possible". the reason that the Mod class is keep at 300 not 350 is that someone would then be allowed to take the old 350X engine and run it. Also, this class was just created a few years ago. So maybe it will get moved up. You don't know how much work it took to get the class to begin with. After you get the class then it can be added to, maybe.

roostin_dale
06-13-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by tprender
the reason that the Mod class is keep at 300 not 350 is that someone would then be allowed to take the old 350X engine and run it.


wrong...it is a "production" class which means production quads. Side cases must match frame..

Out_Sider
06-14-2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by roostin_dale
wrong...it is a "production" class which means production quads. Side cases must match frame..

Roostin is correct...yet again :macho i'm not really complaining about the rules, but think about all the people who really didnt have a thought about racing and just wanted more power and got a 330..then when they did get interested and gets addicted to local racing..they find out they can't race nationals..thats what happend to me atleast

quadchick3
06-14-2004, 10:50 AM
I think they should keep the same rules still. I raced youth prod. last year. They basically ment for the class to be just stock blasters and some 300s. they actually didnt think they would even have it this year.

Since they made the age change, i assume they'll be making cc changes by next year, that class has grown so much already.

tprender
06-14-2004, 08:34 PM
If you would read what I wrote, not what you wanted to read. You would see that I said that the production is class is keep the same as the Mod class, so that they might or could be run togetherpossible in the future. If you have one class at 300 and another class at 350 trying to run together it would cause some problems. Also, the another thing is that the Production class is for youth 13-15. The thinking by some people was to keep them on a lower cc quad.

Out_Sider
06-15-2004, 11:55 AM
is there any way to destroke a 300ex down to 250x specifications? because a 330 kit on a 300ex is the same as a 295 on a 250x..the cylinder size is no different, its just the stroke. so if i could just get mine destroked...wouldnt it be just like a 250x??

bradley300
06-15-2004, 10:01 PM
you cold use a 250x crank and rod

atvtrailrider
06-16-2004, 09:53 AM
So since you guys have this thread.

If you were building a new quad for this class would your choice be a Blaster or a 300Ex or is there some other choice that would also be competitive? Why would you pick that one?

Out_Sider
06-16-2004, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by bradley300
you cold use a 250x crank and rod

so this will work? my dad and i were wondering about it. do you know any where that we could find a 250x crank and rod?

Out_Sider
06-16-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by atvtrailrider
So since you guys have this thread.

If you were building a new quad for this class would your choice be a Blaster or a 300Ex or is there some other choice that would also be competitive? Why would you pick that one?

well..if it was Me buying a brand new quad to build..i'd have to say i'd buy a Kawasaki Mojave, and build it into a full on mx'er. there was one at TNT motorsports one day and it was BAAAD!! i think he said it had a 300 kit or something. But stuff for a mojave is probably hard to find..another choice would be a Blaster, 250x, or 300ex..they are all good models for this class.

roostin_dale
06-16-2004, 12:05 PM
If i had to do it over again i would build a blaster. They are so much quicker since we have limited engine mods. But i am perfectly happy with my 250x.

Also, if i had money to mess around with I would like to expierement with a Skyhawk 250..

A mojave would be the last thing i would choose...they are too heavy and have the least race-potential IMO...

yfz450xc
06-16-2004, 12:42 PM
I would trust "tprender" call on this , being a AMA referee and a district president I'm sure he knows the rules he has proven it in the past .

atvtrailrider
06-16-2004, 02:46 PM
roostin_dale,

Are you saying that a Blaster is faster than the 300EX? In stock form... I believe they have to stay stock bore for production rules correct?

roostin_dale
06-16-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by atvtrailrider
roostin_dale,

Are you saying that a Blaster is faster than the 300EX? In stock form... I believe they have to stay stock bore for production rules correct?

the blaster is quicker but the 300ex is faster. You can bore them it just has to stay under 200cc for the 2-strokes or under 300cc for the four strokes...

tprender
06-16-2004, 07:44 PM
The class limit is how large you can make the engine. You can do it by either bore or stroking or both. Just as long as the result is not past 200cc or 300cc. In the production clas you must use the stock frame with stock gemotery and the matching engine cases from that model. The Mod class is run what you have but again the limit is 200 and 300.

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06-17-2004, 12:30 AM
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