Black 450

[deuce]

My uncle works at the marrysville honda bike plant and there makin a black 450r with silver graphics, he said it looks SWEET. He wasn't sure if its going to be a limited edition or just another color option. I cant wait to see one myself. I just thought I would share..................:D

[#1speedbump]

HMMMMMMMMM........:huh highly unlike Honda to offer two color options on one quad. Limited Edition..........:huh There again not Hondas style, but they may be followin Yamaha and Polaris. I HOPE NOT. Either way only time will tell

[86atc250r]

highly unlike Honda to offer two color options on one quad.

Yeah, can you imagine how silly it would be if you could buy a red or a yellow 400ex?

[SHOCKER]

yeah i was just thinking that to, yeah yellow isnt an aftermarket color it was a option, is yellow still an option for the 04' 400ex's? but i think an LE 450r with silver plastics and black rims and frame would look sick

[Sportrax10]

That would look cool, sort of like the back and silver Aquatrax's...

http://powersports.honda.com/watercraft/model.asp?ModelName=AquaTrax+R%2D12X&ModelYear=2004&ModelId=ARX1200T24

[JWhite]

You could get the TRX250R's in White/Blue or White/Red until 88 when they were all red. Then White/Red again in 89. Honda has offered more than one color option MANY times. A limited though...???

[jlm996s]

I think it's in the newest issue of ATV Sport magazine, there is an ad for Honda and the picture has a bunch of squares where there is black and red. It appears to be a black 450r.

[jokerman_28]

there are no adds for honda in the july/august 2004 issues of ATV sport

[#1speedbump]

OK OK OK. The red and yellow 400ex's were not offered at the same time originaly and if a dealer gave you that option it was only because of their overstock from previous model years. Same goes for the 250rs. The only year they were blue and white was 86. then they were red and white in 87. 88 they were red w/ the added headlight. 89 they were white and red. Know your history before tryin to correct someone. Dont believe me call any honda dealer and they will set you straight. At no time did Honda offer two color options contrary to your mis beliefs

[kgbg]

Thats false. You had (have) a choice.
Click to prove me right. (http://powersports.honda.com/atvs/sport/model.asp?ModelName=Sportrax+400EX&ModelYear=2004&ModelId=TRX400EX4)

[86atc250r]

Many of us don't need to call a dealer - we were around when the 250R color options were originally available.

To say you can't get a 400EX in either red or yellow from 2001 to today from practically any Honda dealer in America is plain ignorance of the facts.

Maybe *you* should know your history before spouting off a bunch of blatantly false info and chastising others for providing the correct info...

[Pappy]

i wish limited edition meant more then color:o

[86atc250r]

At least you won't have to pay more to get the black Honda ;)

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by Pappy
i wish limited edition meant more then color:o

Really, it's bull that you have to pay x amount of dollars more just to get a different color of plastics, x color rims, and x color frame. A limited edition could at least have a sportier pipe and shocks. But that would of course raise the price more than a LE usually is...

Either way you end up buying a lot better shocks and pipe anyway, but for the advanced weekend warrior that would be probably be a better deal than just a "cooler" looking quad.

[jlm996s]

Ok, I was wrong about the pic being in ATV Sport magazine. It's in the June 2004 issue of DW. On page 27 or so there is an add for Ohtsu tires. The guy is wearing a black and white Fox gear and looks to be riding a black 450r.

[#1speedbump]

Kgbg, you are correct you can get them in either color NOW, but originally, like I said originally, there was not an option. I'm talkin about when they first came out. Red was the only color.

86250r, I also was around then and even prior to then. Just to be sure I researched my statement. I am correct in stating that in 86 they were white/ blue, 87white/red, 88red/ white, 89white/red. I did not post "blatantly false info" and I wasnt trying to chastize anyone, just informing them of facts. Check it out with someone who works for Honda, I am not tryin to be an a** just trying to educate. And the different colors red/yellow were available in 2000 not 2001 as told my dealer. So there you have it I know the history and even researched it be sure.

[86atc250r]

Explain this then:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7903355064&category=34237&sspagename=WDVW

Hmm a blue 1987 model... But wait, what about this:

A blue 1986 model (http://powersports.honda.com/the_story/heritage/heritage_milestone.asp?Decade=1980&TargetUrl=Milestone/Milestone_Model_0111.asp&PrevPageTitle=TimeLine)

I have a dirtwheels or 3/4 wheel action article from the mid 80's talking about being able to get the 250R in two color schemes - and how it's the first time Honda had offered it --- I can scan and post the pics and verbiage if you like.

Or - you can go to servicehonda and look at the online parts fiches --- Note the hood colors that are listed for the 1986 *and* 1987 model years.

Better yet click here (http://www.servicehonda.com/hard%20parts/atv/trx250r%2086-89/rear%20fender86_87.htm) and check out seat options on the 86 & 87 models.

Do you need more examples?

400EX - what does it matter if the 400EX was not originally available in two colors? It has been for the last 3 years. 300ex and 250EX have both also been availble in two colors for the last couple years.

If your dealer is where you're doing your research, you need to find a new source of info, because as most dealers are, he is misinformed. The two color 400ex's started as 2001 year models, with the 2000 year model there was only one choice - red. I bought one that year model, so rest assured I knew what my options were. If you don't believe me, check the parts fiches here (http://www.servicehonda.com/hard%20parts/atv/trx400ex%2099-04/front_fender.htm)

Your original statement was that different colors were merely available due to leftover stock from previous years - and that simply is not true.

[sparky450AR]

I bet they do it....just like the aquatraxes, dam i wish i had one of those too. Im sick of people sayin "its not like honda"

ITS A NEW DAY PEOPLE...........WAKE UP!!

[alias]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
I bet they do it....just like the aquatraxes, dam i wish i had one of those too that is the first thing I thought of when I saw this argument, it doesn't seem that far fetched to have a color option.. .

[Cripple]

Originally posted by jlm996s
Ok, I was wrong about the pic being in ATV Sport magazine. It's in the June 2004 issue of DW. On page 27 or so there is an add for Ohtsu tires. The guy is wearing a black and white Fox gear and looks to be riding a black 450r. im looking at that pic right now and its still a red 450 with the normal black nose piece, the pic is intentionally blurry so it might be hard to tell

[kwatts400]

I think the pic is blurry because the 450r comes with dunlops:huh .

[gncc571]

86atc250r is right the 86r's were available in white with red nose,gas tank and seat,or blue nose,tank and seat.The only difference was the 86s' said fourtrax in the sticker on the side of the front plastic and the seat was plan red or blue. The 87's said fourtrax just on the seat not in the sticker I know because I bought a new 87 in 87 and I still have the brochure from the dealer.

[bens250ex]

i think its true that the 450r are gonna also be black with silver plastic heres a link to a pic http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=52704&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=black+450r&start=0

[911]

u guys should just race. winner takes the argument:devil:

[TGW_400ex]

they are makin a black 450r i saw it on a websites its for 05

[86atc250r]

u guys should just race. winner takes the argument

No need, he finally saw the errors of his ways - hence the "no response" :p

[Rebelrider4OOex]

some1 post a pic of it

[deuce]

What everyone think I was makin it up or what.........

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by deuce
What everyone think I was makin it up or what.........

You have to be carefull on this forum....theres so much BS.

Nothing personal.

[#1speedbump]

86, I havent posted anymore on this issue because it is obvious that we still dont agree. Nothing either of us says will change the others opinion. I still feel that each year was only offered in specific colors. Yes you can get any colors and put them on any year of quad because they are interchangeable. Service honda offers parts and as stated they are interchangeable. And yes I was WRONG about the new 450 getting new colors, but will it still be offered in red, as an 05?

[dirtyboy88]

there was a thread on the new 2005 honda's that shows a black ans silver 450r and rincon

[86atc250r]

Speedbump

Parts diagrams do not show interchangeability on parts that were not original equipment for that year - If a color or option was not available for a particular year, it will not be listed for that year - case in point, look at the 88 and 89 fender color options, the colors are only shown for their respective years.

In fact, take a look at the seats in the parts diagrams - ***Different*** part numbers for same color seats for 86 and 87 - that is a 100% guarantee both colors were available for both years - why else would there be a different part number for an 87 blue seat vs an 86 blue seat? I figured you'd figure that one out on your own from the link I provided before...

I've shown you factory materials that show blue/white in both years & the differences (fourtrax lettering on tank vs seat) - you can see these difference in the examples I posted.

I've got a magazine article from back then talking about both color options.

What more evidence do you need? A blue 87 model to fall from the sky and drop on your head?

It's not a matter of who's opinion is right - it's a matter of the facts. You are ignoring them, you refuse to acknowledge that you were mistaken. You have not produced any evidence to support your claims. About the only thing you had right was the colors for the 88 and 89 R's.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by 86atc250r
Speedbump

Parts diagrams do not show interchangeability on parts that were not original equipment for that year - If a color or option was not available for a particular year, it will not be listed for that year - case in point, look at the 88 and 89 fender color options, the colors are only shown for their respective years.

In fact, take a look at the seats in the parts diagrams - ***Different*** part numbers for same color seats for 86 and 87 - that is a 100% guarantee both colors were available for both years - why else would there be a different part number for an 87 blue seat vs an 86 blue seat? I figured you'd figure that one out on your own from the link I provided before...

I've shown you factory materials that show blue/white in both years & the differences (fourtrax lettering on tank vs seat) - you can see these difference in the examples I posted.

I've got a magazine article from back then talking about both color options.

What more evidence do you need? A blue 87 model to fall from the sky and drop on your head?

It's not a matter of who's opinion is right - it's a matter of the facts. You are ignoring them, you refuse to acknowledge that you were mistaken. You have not produced any evidence to support your claims. About the only thing you had right was the colors for the 88 and 89 R's.

Are you a lawyer, and an atv racer on the side? lol, jk:)

[kwatts400]

Originally posted by #1speedbump
OK OK OK. The red and yellow 400ex's were not offered at the same time originaly and if a dealer gave you that option it was only because of their overstock from previous model years. Same goes for the 250rs. The only year they were blue and white was 86. then they were red and white in 87. 88 they were red w/ the added headlight. 89 they were white and red. Know your history before tryin to correct someone. Dont believe me call any honda dealer and they will set you straight. At no time did Honda offer two color options contrary to your mis beliefs

My friend has an 87 250r, when it was all original, it was white and had a blue seat and nose w/ fourtrax in cursive on the seat (it is now set up to look like an 88 250r). Another guy I rode with a while back had an 86 trx 250r, it was white w/ a red seat(no writing) and nose piece. I'm w/ 86atc250r on this one, I know my history when it comes to stock quads, its been a passion of mine since about 84-85, and he is right.

[MX#9]

Not that you need me to run my mouth,but 86atc250r is 100% correct. Sorry speedbump,it is time to concede. I bought 1 of each model year,and for some reason,I liked the blue. Another guy that raced out of the same shop,had the red. They were available in 86 and 87 with red or blue with the slight differences described with in this thread. That is my story and I'm sticking to it!