My dad wrecked my R (pictures)

[sparky450AR]

It doesnt look bad but weve already droped a grand into it replacing parts. Axle, tie rods, light, hood, handlebars,steering stem ect. were broken or bent.


We switched quads (i got on his 416) and we were draggin at haspin, at the end of the strip (50mph+) a little kid on a dirtbike suddenly swerved onto the strip and dad tried to dodge him but the kid dodged the same way, it seems like its how that always goes. Dad hit him, dad got thrown off and skidded, my quad flipped and rolled for atleast 150ft. Dad had amnesia for about 30 minutes...after the wreck he had no clue where he was, what happened, that he wrecked my bike, and he didnt even know my name. To say the least i was scared.


BEFORE!!:
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After!!:
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We have a Durablue X-33 axle with billet hubs on order, new style quad tech hood with scoop, and im going to order the new trail tech HID high intensity discharge lights.

[44oEX]

man that sucks. I hope you get it running good again.

[400extracc]

that suchs man!

at least ur dad is fine.................look at the bright side, you get new better parts that are cheaper in price then stock.

if you not big time jumper or hard core racer i would go with the eliminator axle from dura blue. bit cheaper and stronger then stock.

good luck get'n her together!:macho

[jjgixxer]

what did the kid on the dirtbike look like after that :eek2:

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by 400extracc
that suchs man!

at least ur dad is fine.................look at the bright side, you get new better parts that are cheaper in price then stock.

if you not big time jumper or hard core racer i would go with the eliminator axle from dura blue. bit cheaper and stronger then stock.

good luck get'n her together!:macho

Yeah, we though about the eliminator...but the x-33 is only 11 lbs, i weighed the stock axle and it was 17 pounds!!! i love saving weight. Especially if its rotating mass. Plus i liked the pin drive system on the x-33, hubs will never come lose, no splines, and 6 inches of adjusment. The axle is actually hollow, but durablue has a lifetime warranty so im not worried about it.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by jjgixxer
what did the kid on the dirtbike look like after that :eek2:

It knocked him on the ground and he stopped:huh ...i figured that he would have gotten catipulted. He was ok though, the pipe on his dirtbike was bent straight up. His dad (the kid's dad) shouldnt have been allowed to have a child. Leaving a 10 year old unsupervised at haspen???? he should have just got an abortion.

[stealth400ex]

yea i know how you feel because my friend crashed my 450r into a tree.i had to replace the frame,a arms, bumper,stem,radiator, and axle.

hope you will get it fixed soon.

[PEPwalshZ440]

That's why i let almost nobody ride mine. Hope that R gets better soon but most importantly your dad!

[roughrider01]

Sorry to hear about the accident.

My friend got a concusion/amnesia when we wiped out on the my 3-wheeler back in the day. Every minute hed ask what day it was, seriously. It was wierd.

[lilredridenwood]

That scks way bad, hope your dad is better and glad the kid is okay! Remember quads fix but DEATH IS FOREVER !!!!!

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by PEPwalshZ440
That's why i let almost nobody ride mine. Hope that R gets better soon but most importantly your dad!


Well my dad paid for the majority of the quad, lol.

My dad also had a slight cuncussion, they said not to fall asleep for a few hours. It would be like jumping out of your car at 50 mph!, i dont know how it was slight. When he hit the ground his glasses wedged up and cut his forehead. Im so glad hes ok.

[86atc250r]

Don't believe the hype on the axle - they are not as lightweight as advertised - on my 250R it weighed slightly more than stock.

The rotating mass of the axle is neglegible anyways - the mass is all centered near the point of rotation - you'd get much more result out of a set of lighter weight tires.

Back to the axle-- weight is not what they claim, strength is not good (they have a history of breaking), hubs still come loose - better yet - when they do, instead of just loosening up, they loosen up, shear the drive pin, and leave you stranded with a detached tire/wheel -- and although they are advertised as being very adjustable they are such a pain in the @$$ to adjust that it's not worth messing with.

You also have to remember that Durablue's "Lifetime" warranty only works once --- you bend or break the axle, you get a replacement but without any further warranty.

Take it from someone who has owned one (and an RPM, a Lonestar, and numerous others) ---- cancel your X-33 order.

Get a Lonestar - cheaper than an RPM and very, very good -- especially their 450R axle, it's practically as thick as an X-33 (doesn't taper much at the ends) yet isn't hollow - looks and performs great.

There's a reason you don't see many X-33 axles on top racer's quads.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by 86atc250r
Don't believe the hype on the axle - they are not as lightweight as advertised - on my 250R it weighed slightly more than stock.

The rotating mass of the axle is neglegible anyways - the mass is all centered near the point of rotation - you'd get much more result out of a set of lighter weight tires.

Back to the axle-- weight is not what they claim, strength is not good (they have a history of breaking), hubs still come loose - better yet - when they do, instead of just loosening up, they loosen up, shear the drive pin, and leave you stranded with a detached tire/wheel -- and although they are advertised as being very adjustable they are such a pain in the @$$ to adjust that it's not worth messing with.

You also have to remember that Durablue's "Lifetime" warranty only works once --- you bend or break the axle, you get a replacement but without any further warranty.

Take it from someone who has owned one (and an RPM, a Lonestar, and numerous others) ---- cancel your X-33 order.

Get a Lonestar - cheaper than an RPM and very, very good -- especially their 450R axle, it's practically as thick as an X-33 (doesn't taper much at the ends) yet isn't hollow - looks and performs great.

There's a reason you don't see many X-33 axles on top racer's quads.

ill cancel the order tommarow, thank you

[86atc250r]

I hate to sound so negative, but I bought one a few years ago thinking I was buying "the best", only to find out what I posted above the hard way - pretty disappointing experience.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by 86atc250r
I hate to sound so negative, but I bought one a few years ago thinking I was buying "the best", only to find out what I posted above the hard way - pretty disappointing experience.

I have heard this from some people, but didnt know them. I hear it from you and im looking for rocky mountains number, lol. But which one is better, RPM or lonestar?

[sparky450AR]

I noticed lonestar is adjustable to 3 inches. How much do dominator 2's cost? There website isnt updated, how much do they adjust?

[Dave400ex]

I would say RPM is the best, but you should also look at the TEAM axle. A lot of guys are liking those, and they have a lifetime warranty. Besides that you can get the axle and rear hubs for the price of a RPM.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by Dave400ex
I would say RPM is the best, but you should also look at the TEAM axle. A lot of guys are liking those, and they have a lifetime warranty. Besides that you can get the axle and rear hubs for the price of a RPM.


how much is an RPM?

[Dave400ex]

Baldwin lists them at $509, but you might be able to find one for around $450. The TEAM is $400 for the axle, and you have to buy the $100 hubs also.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by Dave400ex
Baldwin lists them at $509, but you might be able to find one for around $450. The TEAM is $400 for the axle, and you have to buy the $100 hubs also.


thank you!, thats pretty expensive for no hubs....i think ill go with lonestar


Unless i find an RPM for 450

[Sportrax10]

I know how you feel. I wreaked my 450r down a hill... Its just about comepleted now, expect finished pics by the end of this week end... It looks sick...:devil:

[86atc250r]

I have an RPM in my 400EX - nice axle.

I have a Lonestar in my 450R - nice axle as well.

The Lonestar on the 450R is "beefier" looking than either a RPM or a Lonestar on a 400EX. The Lonestar is adjustable 1.5" on each side (I haven't measured the axle's base width to see if it's +3 overall) - with a set of 5/3 offset 8" wheels with 18" turf tamers the rear measures roughly 49.5".

Both the Lonestar and RPM use very similar looking small clips to retain the sprocket hub --- Durablue uses a large clip & that's usually where they break (most likely due to the larger groove that must be machined out of the axle).

So far, no complaints with either axle. I've been told that Lonestar is a little easier to work with on the warranty than RPM & the company I went thru said they had fewer warranty claims with the Lonestar axles they've sold - but I haven't had to use the warranty on either axle yet so I can't really say.

I was able to pick up a brand new Lonestar for three bills, which I thought was an excellent price considering I've seen them for over $400 at a lot of places ---best prices I found on the RPM axle were over $400.

I don't have any experience with the Team axles (unless there is truth to the rumor that they make some of the OEM axle out there).

BTW - to prevent loose hubs use some silicon RTV on the splines - you'll never have to replace worn out hubs and/or axle again.

[lukester720]

Sparky, I hope your dad is doing well. The next time you go to Haspin shoot me a PM, I might be able to meet up with you all. All my friends have kids and/or married, so its hard finding people to ride with.

[protrax]

i had a x33 axle a few years ago and it snapped in 2 pieces off a big uphill double, it broke right where the clip goes for the antifade, I run lonestar now but they bends easily .

[Dave400ex]

Check with C&D for a price on the RPM. At one time they told me $430.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by lukester720
Sparky, I hope your dad is doing well. The next time you go to Haspin shoot me a PM, I might be able to meet up with you all. All my friends have kids and/or married, so its hard finding people to ride with.


My dad is afraid of that place now, lol. Im sure we will go back though. Ill shoot you a Pm if we do. I would like to hook up with another 450 and rip *** all day long.:)

[sparky450AR]

BTW i ordered the lonestar today, cheapest i found was 369 shipped. I hope it doesnt bend on me. Ive never owned a quad that i havent bent an axle on. Today a guy at moto joes told me the lonestar very rarely bends or breaks.....but he also said the RPM was 2X as strong:huh ...thats really hard for me to believe. If its 2x as strong it seems like it would be more prone to breaking instead of bending. I also ordered the posi-lock lock nut for it.

[WOracing]

Originally posted by protrax
i had a x33 axle a few years ago and it snapped in 2 pieces off a big uphill double, it broke right where the clip goes for the antifade, I run lonestar now but they bends easily .

:rolleyes:

[lukester720]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
My dad is afraid of that place now, lol. Im sure we will go back though. Ill shoot you a Pm if we do. I would like to hook up with another 450 and rip *** all day long.:)

I keep my eyes peeled up there, to many drunk idiots riding around. Keep me posted next time you go, I'm in.

[tkwarrior]

Originally posted by lukester720
I keep my eyes peeled up there, to many drunk idiots riding around. Keep me posted next time you go, I'm in.

It's like that everywhere. I got hit today by a drunk idiot on a 4X4 and it tore up my upper left a-arm.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by tkwarrior
It's like that everywhere. I got hit today by a drunk idiot on a 4X4 and it tore up my upper left a-arm.


I would beat the **** out of him, then beat the **** out of his truck. These are the people that give the 4x4 world its reputation.

[Jonas]

Durablue axles are JUNK. Thoughtlessly engineered. Anyone own an axle where the lock nut and hubs stay tight?

[86atc250r]

I do - use the tip I posted earlier.

[remlapr]

That drag strip at Haspin is dangerous. You are going so fast at the end and there is always traffic down there and it's bumpy so it's hard to slow down.

[tkwarrior]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
I would beat the **** out of him, then beat the **** out of his truck. These are the people that give the 4x4 world its reputation.


I don't remember most of the day. Afterwords I stumbled around on the bike for a few minutes and then rode off.


Bad news is they are on backorder from Honda and I ain't spending $2000 on new suspension some some dillhole can hit me again.

[Florida400EX]

Originally posted by remlapr
That drag strip at Haspin is dangerous. You are going so fast at the end and there is always traffic down there and it's bumpy so it's hard to slow down.

It's called braking bumps buddy!

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by Florida400EX
It's called braking bumps buddy!

yeah, thats what he said.....you read his post flawlessly.