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shamisc
04-27-2004, 10:06 PM
Man, from what I can tell, these pipes rock!! The kit came with the quiet cores but they were not installed and it's nowhere near as loud as my Sparks or any WB I've seen. It has a deep thump to it but not anoying at WOT. I think I'm gonna like 'em but I'll miss the sound of my Sparks! I only rode them for about ten minutes. So, I'll get a little more seat time in the morning and give my full opinion. BTW, I did spend 2 hours polishing the headers to a chrome finish being that they are 304 Stainless. Here's some pics right after installation before even washing the pipes:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p15331c9d769a624beaad95a3abe1682b/f8dad55a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p4a5601c285e236a1415e2941f432423b/f8dad664.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pefab1f4aa78123ce7ca1f0ed053d0772/f8dad743.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pefaebea0f93b02d7aa18a17d511f55af/f8dad84b.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pe6c78f41b55f05ae466a710ee9b1dd0e/f8dad91f.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p9f6ee7e042a50c4dd5c8c96c283559b6/f8dad9e7.jpg


Sorry for the shotty pics. I've got a 5megapixel Sony, I just haven't figured it out yet! I'll get some better pics tomorrow!;) Anyone want to give me some camera lessons??:confused: :D

hondarider2006
04-27-2004, 11:30 PM
Sick:D

shamisc
04-28-2004, 12:13 AM
tdh

massjunglist
04-28-2004, 04:12 AM
i cant wait to get that setup!

nky400
04-28-2004, 06:04 AM
that looks awesome! is that two separate header pipes or does it have a "y" in it somewhere?

UglyMotha™
04-28-2004, 06:26 AM
completly seperate if you notice in the pics there is a single header pipe on both sides of the bike

promisc
04-28-2004, 07:36 AM
Try to use flash, without flash, the cam needs to keep the opturation opened for few more msecs. Or try to raise the ISO. But higher ISO (400 or 800) produce more granular pics.

shamisc
04-28-2004, 09:12 AM
Here's a couple new pics:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p5445255ae6f1031c865319c7e752f5cb/f8d9c04f.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p8783933921dae42b3a7c5b6f598ea41f/f8d9bf8b.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/padcf09a7a28f5344effc027b85a4d602/f8d9bec3.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p695f36eaad3f1e4c8c91f4a0c448144f/f8d9be16.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p7249414650af406df7b86615d2069b62/f8d9bd72.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p62a62b7ec76e4fb826877bbb588c9785/f8d9bccf.jpg

These pipes sound awesome! They feel like they doubled the torque! I really think I'm gonna love these!!

cals400ex
04-28-2004, 12:20 PM
did you do any jetting changes when changing pipes? any air lid differences? i know you get a new air box but i didn't know if you ran a lid before too?

yeah, take it out and let us know how it compared to your sparks.

04-28-2004, 12:22 PM
Nothing looks better than duals in my opinion...:cool:

TORO1968
04-28-2004, 12:29 PM
Sweet setup! :)

Chanman420q
04-28-2004, 01:57 PM
how does it compare to the sparks?

JDiablo
04-28-2004, 02:04 PM
them headers looks sweet good job on polishing them....and to whoever asked about if they are serperate headers....yes they are...very sweet man....now tell us any power increases and how they compare to sparks

UglyMotha™
04-28-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Chanman420q
how does it compare to the sparks?





the lte has two cans verses sparks only has one :o





:blah: :eek:

JDiablo
04-28-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
the lte has two cans verses sparks only has one :o





:blah: :eek:



lol yea think:rolleyes: :D :cool:

muddy400EX
04-28-2004, 02:51 PM
thats awesome. can you put a soundclip of them pipes on here.

cals400ex
04-28-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
the lte has two cans verses sparks only has one :o





:blah: :eek:



some more non-stop humor out of you

zephead400ex
04-28-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by cals400ex
some more non-stop humor out of you
:D

shamisc
04-28-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by cals400ex
did you do any jetting changes when changing pipes? any air lid differences? i know you get a new air box but i didn't know if you ran a lid before too?

yeah, take it out and let us know how it compared to your sparks.

It seems to run out of fuel a little between idle and half throttle. I think I'll bump the pilot jet up a couple sizes. As far as the main jet, It seems fine. No bogging or popping. I'm going riding Sat. and I'll get a chance to do some plug readings to determine what jets they need. I've got an Outerwears airbox cover on the box. I didn't use a lid on my old set-up. As far as comparing to my Sparks, I just don't know yet. I do like them alot though. I can get a sound clip, but I'm not quite sure how to post it.

shamisc
04-29-2004, 06:46 PM
g

Sportrax10
04-29-2004, 06:57 PM
I like the pipes, and I like the 450r LE taillight too..:macho :blah:

DangerousDean
04-29-2004, 07:16 PM
what kind of airbox are you using .. i guess you need one that fits a battery to run those

cals400ex
04-29-2004, 07:26 PM
that exhaust comes with an air box.

Jailor EX
04-29-2004, 09:01 PM
Thats Hot!!! If you don't mind me asking How Much and where can I get it.

quadingdude23
04-29-2004, 09:01 PM
those pipes are sweet. How much were they and were they hard to put on?

RMX500
04-29-2004, 09:03 PM
www.lteracing.com to order.

or check out dirtwheels.

2001400ex
04-30-2004, 09:39 AM
Those look awesome, but on the LTE website it looks like they used two pipes with the disc system instead of a canister like that with the baffle?

shamisc
04-30-2004, 10:45 AM
They haven't updated their website yet. The system you see on their site is their first 400ex system which they do not sell anymore. All of their systems now have the new type silencers on them. Randy Looney said they actually got a couple more HP's out of the new design. And yes, they do come with the airbox and everything you need to install the system. Packaging was first class too!;) The system was $739 directly from LTE. Not too bad if you ask me, I think it's well worth the price! The quality of the materials and workmanship is like no other. I could not find not even one small flaw in the system. The silencers come polished to a chrome like finish and if you take the price of some of the aftermarket airboxes out there and subtract it from the system, that's what you'll pay for alot of the full systems out there.:cool:

BIGRED400
04-30-2004, 10:49 AM
Looks bada**,,Put them duals on a dyno and let's see the difference

hondaex03
04-30-2004, 12:36 PM
How much does it wiegh?

JDiablo
04-30-2004, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by hondaex03
How much does it wiegh?


i read somewhere that they were very light....but hey how long did it take you to convert the pipe on the left side?

shamisc
04-30-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by 300exrida
i read somewhere that they were very light....but hey how long did it take you to convert the pipe on the left side?

What do you mean convert the pipe on the left side? Everything you need comes with the kit. A left side header, mid-pipe, and silencer and a right side header, mid-pipe, and silencer. The way they built the kit there was minimal movement of anything as far as clearance. It took about an hour and a half to put everything on.

JDiablo
04-30-2004, 02:10 PM
i no it comes with everything...im saying how long did it take you to move the battery and stuff so the pipe on the left could fit?lol sorry if it was confusing

my03-400ex
04-30-2004, 07:04 PM
VERY nice...

shamisc
04-30-2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by 300exrida
i no it comes with everything...im saying how long did it take you to move the battery and stuff so the pipe on the left could fit?lol sorry if it was confusing

About an hour and a half for everything.;)

05-04-2004, 10:48 AM
I have had the LTE setup since December and am very happy with it. Yes the sound is deep and decibel friendly, doesn't drone on in your head after a long ride.
As for power, while most will want "What's the HP increase, you were spot on in noticing the sizeable torque increase! These pipes pull hard, and are espically good in the dunes. I was revving out in third at Test Hill at Gordons Well with Sand Stars where I was downshifting before with my FMF and Sand Skates.

The only problem is with stock plastic there are no clearance issues, however I have Fullbore and have the old 250r hole melted in the side panel of the rear fenders on the left side....I guess Fullbore and LTE didn't compare notes. Small heads up so someone else can fashion a heat shield or spacer to avoid the problem!

All in all, Thumbs up to LTE!:D

BIGRED400
05-04-2004, 11:00 AM
Before and After............Is it worth the money?????????????:confused:

400exdad
05-04-2004, 11:00 AM
Sweet! Everything in one package! Are you happy with the airbox and battery relocation stuff too? Does it also come with the "airbox lid" :D too? I'll want to hear a set before I fork over the dough though.

04'400ex'er
05-04-2004, 11:01 AM
How does it compare to the sparks? that is the question.

shamisc
05-04-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by BIGRED400
Before and After............Is it worth the money?????????????:confused:

Why hell yes!!:D

shamisc
05-04-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by 04'400ex'er
How does it compare to the sparks? that is the question.

I like them better than my Sparks for the simple reason of the torque it produces throughout the RPM range, they're stainless(won't rust), and they have spark arresters which I need for trail riding.;)

TORO1968
05-10-2004, 06:38 PM
Hey, do you have any close-up pics of your 450r taillight and how you mounted it? I'm wanting to do the same thing to mine...

Thanks,
Jordan

400exdad
05-11-2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by TORO1968
Hey, do you have any close-up pics of your 450r taillight and how you mounted it? I'm wanting to do the same thing to mine...

Thanks,
Jordan

I think he already posted a thread on that, or somebody else did.

BIGRED400
05-11-2004, 06:03 PM
Before and After

05-21-2005, 08:49 PM
I like that exhaust, it looks so f'ing awesome:devil:

6858-400ex
05-21-2005, 09:14 PM
bad a mofo

MarkyNark
05-21-2005, 11:08 PM
About time someone else post good stuff around here about the LTE besides me.

The HP increase is just as good as any top performing pipe - but the thing is, they are quiet and sound awesome. Yes, everyone stands around my quad gawking at them - one idiot asked me if one pipe was just for "show" and not working. DUH! :rolleyes:

PS - You can order them with heat shields and even have them ceramic coated too. I recommend the heat shields if you wear nylon pants!

As far as price, you have to know who to call - advertised price is never as good as dealing with someone you can talk to .... hint hint :eek2:

JOEX
05-21-2005, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by MarkyNark
About time someone else post good stuff around here about the LTE besides me.

The HP increase is just as good as any top performing pipe - but the thing is, they are quiet and sound awesome. Yes, everyone stands around my quad gawking at them - one idiot asked me if one pipe was just for "show" and not working. DUH! :rolleyes:

PS - You can order them with heat shields and even have them ceramic coated too. I recommend the heat shields if you wear nylon pants!

As far as price, you have to know who to call - advertised price is never as good as dealing with someone you can talk to .... hint hint :eek2:
Are there heat shields availalbe for the 400ex? All I saw on their site were for the Raptor and YFZ...

MarkyNark
05-21-2005, 11:23 PM
You spotted that before I could correct my post - No, they dont have them for the EX. I think they should, friends that ride mine with nylon pants leave thier pants on my pipes! Oh well, just more polishing for me.

JOEX
05-21-2005, 11:28 PM
I guess i'll be riding spread eagle:eek: Or I could let you polish my pipes:p

MarkyNark
05-22-2005, 07:15 PM
Joex,

You have to have the LTEs in order to even have that problem!:rolleyes: :blah: :ermm:

JOEX
05-23-2005, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by MarkyNark
Joex,

You have to have the LTEs in order to even have that problem!:rolleyes: :blah: :ermm:
They will be here Tuesday:o ;)

MarkyNark
05-23-2005, 06:42 AM
Right on!

JOEX
05-23-2005, 12:26 PM
Where's a good starting point for jetting with the LTE?

- Sea level, K&N filter, no lid, 416 10.8, ported head.....

MarkyNark
05-23-2005, 12:51 PM
The jets it came with are a good starting point up to 2000 feet in elevation. To be honest, when I had my carb jetted, I gave the carb guy my altitude, and jetted it for the highest flowing pipe they had knowlege about - I ended up being right on the money. Two dynos later - its still on the money!

JOEX
05-23-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by MarkyNark
The jets it came with are a good starting point up to 2000 feet in elevation. To be honest, when I had my carb jetted, I gave the carb guy my altitude, and jetted it for the highest flowing pipe they had knowlege about - I ended up being right on the money. Two dynos later - its still on the money!
I'm buying this used and i'm not sure if the jets are coming with it:ermm:

Do you know what the jet numbers are and are they Keihin jets?

cals400ex
05-23-2005, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by JOEX
I'm buying this used and i'm not sure if the jets are coming with it:ermm:

Do you know what the jet numbers are and are they Keihin jets?


well jets aren't coming with it. :D i didn't get any jets when i got the pipe so i didn't know these even came with jets. if you would have mentioned something i would have threw in a mainjet or two.

cals400ex
05-23-2005, 11:23 PM
i guess i could still ship you one or two if need be. ;)

JOEX
05-24-2005, 11:01 AM
I have a few 150,152,155 and 160. I might pick up a couple more a little bigger.

MarkyNark
05-24-2005, 11:16 AM
Randy and I are going to be at Sand Mtn NV this weekend - he has already left - so I'll try to remember to ask him when I am down there.

05-24-2005, 01:53 PM
I would suggest, as I have with LTE that if you are running Fullbore plastics on the 400ex, that you check the clearance on the left leg side pannel of your rear fenders. It may be that I got mine so early on that there were issues with clearance, but I had to notch out part of the pannel as it was melting anyway. I'll try to post a pic of it tomorrow. Oh, and no burnt pants yet....unlike my old DMC's pre-heat shield edition's....

JOEX
05-24-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by mrbluehair
I would suggest, as I have with LTE that if you are running Fullbore plastics on the 400ex, that you check the clearance on the left leg side pannel of your rear fenders. It may be that I got mine so early on that there were issues with clearance, but I had to notch out part of the pannel as it was melting anyway. I'll try to post a pic of it tomorrow. Oh, and no burnt pants yet....unlike my old DMC's pre-heat shield edition's....
Looks good mrbluehair:cool:

Do you have any jetting recommendations?

05-24-2005, 05:20 PM
You know, I didn't build it, our shop did, and they jetted it with what came in the kit.

Another thing, I mentioned to LTE, did they re-enforce the tabs on the corners of the airbox where the silencer crossbar mount bolts to? I had one break so i hard mounted the brace to the subframe. Worked out good.

05-24-2005, 05:35 PM
Here is when I noticed the plastic melting. I assert that I didn't get P.O.'ed at LTE, it just happened and I dealt with it.

You can see it in the yellow circle.

JOEX
05-24-2005, 08:02 PM
Here's the box I got ...... and is this the bracket you're talking about? I haven't figured out where it goes yet.......

cals400ex
05-25-2005, 12:12 AM
i have been told with stock plastic there isn't problems with burning plastic. some aftermarket companies do have problems though. i also believe the header just fits into the silencer with no clamp. these are just guesses, i am not 100% sure on anything. :D

shamisc
05-25-2005, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by mrbluehair
Here is when I noticed the plastic melting. I assert that I didn't get P.O.'ed at LTE, it just happened and I dealt with it.

You can see it in the yellow circle.

If you notice in my first pics, my headers look different than mrbluehairs. My system was an updated version from that one. I don't think there's any clearance issues anymore!

05-25-2005, 11:40 AM
Yeah, yours is updated. Like I said before, I was one of the first to get the system and yes, they do clear the stock plastic. I just got an early unit. No biggie.

The bracket has changed too, I'm not sure what that one is for, but they used to have a billet brace that crossed over the back edge of the airbox and used to mount to the corner tabs of the airbox to hold the mufflers. My tabs broke loose, but I fixed that situation and have been trouble free since. BTW, you'll love the increased torque and HP through the entire powerband. You'll find that you go through the gears alot faster.

EDIT***I See you already posted about the increase in torque. It works real well in the dunes.

400exdad
06-03-2005, 07:20 AM
MBH- I like the green! Looks cool!

HighSkoolHero
06-03-2005, 05:22 PM
Nice setup, very unique, jw though, if it works as good as you say why don't major exhaust companies put similar products in their lineup? DMC makes a "dual" exhaust but it's not two separate headers, cans, etc. my guess would be that it's restricting flow or causing a disturbance with backpressure or something along those lines.

MarkyNark
06-03-2005, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by HighSkoolHero
Nice setup, very unique, jw though, if it works as good as you say why don't major exhaust companies put similar products in their lineup? DMC makes a "dual" exhaust but it's not two separate headers, cans, etc. my guess would be that it's restricting flow or causing a disturbance with backpressure or something along those lines.

Being the first is a brave thing. You just watch - more flow and twice the silencing capacity. Just what the dr ordered when it comes to dune pipes.

All you have to do is look at the dyno results and DB ratings. And also listen to the folks that have them. The best pipes can produce very close HP numbers, but then the problem will be very high DB ratings. Its simply a quiet performance pipe. The world will catch on, but they aren't ready to spend all the R&D like Randy did. I've know over 150 people that purchased these pipes - I can only think of one that was dissatisfied. He ran them for a year, crashed his quad and wanted a refund cuz the muffler broke off the mount. Go figure.