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Gibson Racing 6
04-14-2004, 07:36 PM
I am going to be racing MX soon. I have been reading about the pipes out there but which one or what are some good ones for MX racing.

Thanks

WOracing
04-14-2004, 07:45 PM
alot of people go with the sparks or hmf. i would recomend hmf, but its up to you.

allmixedup047
04-14-2004, 08:04 PM
i would recomend sparks with the hrc because the hrc is for top end but with the sparks you will get your low end performance, so it will kind of equal out. but hmf makes great stuff, i dont think it will matter what you get, youll be happy.

Power Stroker
04-14-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by allmixedup047
i would recomend sparks with the hrc because the hrc is for top end but with the sparks you will get your low end performance, so it will kind of equal out. but hmf makes great stuff, i dont think it will matter what you get, youll be happy.

I agree

Bretmd94
04-14-2004, 08:28 PM
Sparks makes the best pipes for all out hp that i have ever seen. It installed extremely easy, shipping is pretty fast, the price is very decent. It is loud, but also the best in my opinion. Sounds like a beast at the mx track.

zwilldog
04-14-2004, 08:51 PM
hmf bill ballance pipe is the best out to date loud and monster torque

#1speedbump
04-14-2004, 09:35 PM
My searching has led me to believe that the Sparks pipe is the ONE to have, also I would suggest that you use the Sparks cam over the HRC. The HRC cam will give you 5 hp at peak rpm where as the Sparks will give you 4 across the board. I know that a local shop dynoed a 450r with a Sparks pipe and a K&N proflow kit for the 450r and they got a reading of over 42 rwhp. That is without any cam. They will be doing some runs with different cams in the near future.

rowlrag
04-14-2004, 09:41 PM
Pretty much there all good, buy what suits your wallet, the only one I don't like is FMF and it's only because I don't care for there light material on brackets.

the Z Man
04-14-2004, 09:51 PM
Try fabbing a Supertrapp shorty and see what happens, Has any body tried wrapping their head pipe with header tape? what are the advantages there?:eek:

kssandduner
04-15-2004, 02:20 AM
What about LRD?? I had an LRD on my 400ex, and I thought it put out more low end compared to the sparks my dad had on his. I'm up against the same prob, I can't decide what pipe to get for my R either. I'm thinkin about going with Duncan, because I've never tried one of their pipes before.

Joe

kazpr
04-15-2004, 07:09 AM
I think once I get a few free $$ saved I will get the HMF BB setup. I really like the look and all the Torque also!

Manny55
04-15-2004, 07:53 AM
What about LRD?? I had an LRD on my 400ex, and I thought it put out more low end compared to the sparks my dad had on his. I'm up against the same prob, I can't decide what pipe to get for my R either. I'm thinkin about going with Duncan, because I've never tried one of their pipes before.

Yea i was gonna say the samething. Lrd is good for mxing. Im gonna order it when they return my phone call. I love lrd you should look in to getting one of those!

Here is the link to the LRD pro 4 series exhaust for the 450r!
http://lrdracing.com/cgi-bin/shop/category_detail.cgi?id=99130-23&cat=Exhaust%20Systems&atv=Honda%20450R

dn1911
04-15-2004, 07:44 PM
HMF Ballance Pro
ITS FRIKIN AWSOME

300extreme#8
04-15-2004, 08:02 PM
my white bros is pretty nice,noticeable gains

r450rr
04-15-2004, 10:45 PM
anyone got a pic of the hmf bb exhaust installed..?

TCracin440ex
04-15-2004, 10:49 PM
TC exhaust....looks good, sounds good, has that deep 4 stroke rumble, and the wb carbon fiber exhaust sounds good too...dana creech had 1 on the yfz 450 and that exhaust sounded bad arse also...TC/Sparks/Whitebros is proally the best bet

joe1l
04-15-2004, 11:17 PM
i would recomend sparks with the hrc because the hrc is for top end but with the sparks you will get your low end performance, so it will kind of equal out. but hmf makes great stuff, i dont think it will matter what you get, youll be happy.

The HMF pipe productes 13ftlbs of torque and 7hp on the bottom so it definatley will help out on the low end!

I just got my HMF pipe and I was very impressed with the fit and finish, it fit perfect! I also got the quiet core with it, and it was definately a smart choice because it quiets it down with barely any loss of power from the non quiet core. By the way the red powder coated pipe looks awesome!

r450rr
04-16-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by joe1l
The HMF pipe productes 13ftlbs of torque and 7hp on the bottom so it definatley will help out on the low end!

I just got my HMF pipe and I was very impressed with the fit and finish, it fit perfect! I also got the quiet core with it, and it was definately a smart choice because it quiets it down with barely any loss of power from the non quiet core. By the way the red powder coated pipe looks awesome!

HOw much did u pay all together for it.?

Woody_YFZ
04-16-2004, 06:13 AM
DRD will have a pipe for the TRX 450 here pretty quick and they generally make an excellent pipe for mx, since that's what Dubach is known for.

smokeu400
04-16-2004, 02:24 PM
The new WB carbon pipe looks kick *** any one try one yet?

jbs450r
04-16-2004, 08:15 PM
anyone try the fat boy 4 exhaust??

TRX Smoker
04-17-2004, 08:32 AM
TC

brif
04-17-2004, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by joe1l
The HMF pipe productes 13ftlbs of torque and 7hp on the bottom so it definatley will help out on the low end!

I just got my HMF pipe and I was very impressed with the fit and finish, it fit perfect! I also got the quiet core with it, and it was definately a smart choice because it quiets it down with barely any loss of power from the non quiet core. By the way the red powder coated pipe looks awesome!
Got a pic?

rowlrag
04-17-2004, 11:22 PM
http://www.hmfengineering.com/hondtrx450r.html

joe1l
04-18-2004, 07:48 PM
Here are some pics of my 450R with the HMF pipe on it.
450R with Red HMF exhaust (http://rriders.com/trx250r_forum/showthread.php?postid=42580#post42580)

kazpr
04-18-2004, 07:58 PM
Nice pipe joe thanks for the picture. I wish I could see a pic of the BB carbon on a 450R!

NorthLoup
04-19-2004, 09:40 AM
Kaz , There's one in the last Dirt Wheels mag .

Page 74 . Looks great !

kazpr
04-19-2004, 09:50 AM
What month?? PLEASE TELL ME :)

zwilldog
04-19-2004, 09:54 AM
ive got the bb carbon pipe on my 450r its pretty sweet

NorthLoup
04-19-2004, 09:58 AM
Sorry Kaz ! I meant te WB Carbon Pro :(

Didn't seen the BB one yet .

kazpr
04-19-2004, 10:08 AM
Ok thanks north was about to run to bookstore :)

Gibson Racing 6
04-19-2004, 11:01 AM
zwilldog how do u like that pipe. Is there any real drastic changes say for example better then sparks or hmf.

Thanks

zwilldog
04-19-2004, 09:58 PM
there is a huge difference down low to midrange and sounds sweet

Gibson Racing 6
04-20-2004, 09:47 AM
Does anyone have dyno results with the White Bros carbon pipe

snow4fun
04-28-2004, 06:45 AM
Joe1l,
I was trying to view the picture you posted titled 450R w/Red HMF exhaust and can't view it. Could you try to repost or email me the photos? email: douglasc@ogden.disa.mil
How do you like the pipe? Have you raced any Bill Ballance HMF, Sparks, LRD, etc equipped bikes and what seems to work best? Thanks Scott

PEPwalshZ440
04-28-2004, 01:41 PM
TC!!!!!!!!

450rboy
04-28-2004, 09:24 PM
do you know if they make a ct pipe for the 450r.

kazpr
04-28-2004, 09:41 PM
Yes I belive the CT pipe is available for orders now. I have not seen one though.

Woody_YFZ
04-28-2004, 11:05 PM
I think I'm going to try the DRD. I have that on my YFZ and the gains are awesome for MX (huge low to mid), so I'm expecting the same for the TRX.

10secKing
04-29-2004, 02:25 AM
is everyone pretty satisfied with their 450r? just kind of curious cause i gotta a really good friend about to sell his and get a yfz and i am tryin to convince him not to.:eek2:

stiffy
04-29-2004, 12:20 PM
I have the FMF Titanium and power bomb head pipe. major HP on the butt dyno!

allmixedup047
04-30-2004, 01:24 PM
i really like my 450r and i just got the hrc in this week and im really wanting to go test it out this weekend.

PEPwalshZ440
04-30-2004, 02:35 PM
get the TC full exhaust, that's what I just got on mine and it fuggin RIPS on the bottom to mid. It's pretty crazy. But you need a K&N and u need to run with the airbox lid off once u get this cuz ur gonna be pushin exhaust out so much easier than ur it'll run too lean if u don't.
Mike