Hotcams stage 1 or 2

[XCRacerwanab29]

Ok everybody first of all I want to know if 86mm is a 405 or 416 then I want to know what cam I should get out of the hotcams stage 1 or 2. I want more mid and topend power without having to constantly pull my motor apart to fix a problem the cam caused and supposedly the stage 2 breaks stock 400 cam chains but I've heard if you buy the CRF450 cam chain it won't break.

any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance

[Natertot426ex]

For more mid to top get the stage two. i have had mine in for over a year now and no problems. I think the 86 MM is a 405:confused: Not sure on that one though!!

[nikejoe]

An 86 mm must be around a 405, because a 416 is 89mm, I believe!:p

[cals400ex]

no, no, no!

the 86mm is usually referred to as the 406. some companies may call it a 405. the 416 is 87mm. the 440 is 89mm.

you will gain nice top speed with either cam. my friend runs a stage 1 cam and he has just as much top speed as i do with my stage 2. my cam you just have to rev really high for best power ( higher than the stock rev limit for drag racing) in my 406. i say the stage 1 definately has better "all around power" than the stage 2 after having experience with both. if you go with a 416 or bigger, i would probably get the stage 2.


overall, the stage 1 would be better for all around power instead of just high rpm power. if all your worried about is at high rpms, i would definately get the stage 2.

[redroost85]

I was thinking about this too. Thanks for the info guys.:)

[nikejoe]

My bad! Cal is obviously right! I was looking at botht the 416 and the 440. Sorry! 416 is 87! Sorry about that! I had to remove my head from my arse! Now I'm better!:p

[Atreyu]

Go with stage two. It's better with motor mods and almost the same price.

[EXDUNER127]

which one would you go with if you get a std bore 11:1 piston?

[cals400ex]

Originally posted by EXDUNER127
which one would you go with if you get a std bore 11:1 piston?



i can tell you my friends bike is just as fast as mine. here are the bikes: friends: stage 1, 10:1 wiseco 406, x-4, K&N filter, crf 450 timing chain, jetted.

my bike: stage 2, 10.8:1 406, x-6, uni, jetted.

if you ride in wide open areas, i would get the stage 2. if you ride in trails alot or prefer to have more low end power, i would say stage 1.